Is a 1cc on Iphone Legit?

[Cyarc]

I recently got an Ipod touch and one of my first purchases was Dodonpachi Resurection and ESPGaluda II. I have never gotten any 1cc before but now I have 1cc both Dodonpachi and ESPGaluda on "Arcade Mode". This makes me pretty excited but I wanted to know if it was considered "legit" or not. Dodonpachi I can see why not, they give you auto-bomb so its an enteriley different game. But ESPgaluda is from my knowledge completely the same as the arcade versios except for controls.

BTW I reccomend anyone getting these versions, they are alot of fun.

[MathU]

"Legit"? Are you serious? Good grief, do you really need approval of your victories that much? It's obviously not the same game so comparing it to the PCB is kind of silly. Who cares what the elitist turds on this forum think; be proud of your own accomplishments.

[DragonInstall]

Its completely different games. Count it for whatever you want honestly. Its a 1cc for iphone esp2 and daifukkatsu.

But if you enjoyed the iphone version, I highly suggest you play the 360 ports. They are much harder though, so keep that in mind.

[Drachenherz]

No.

They are not legit.

At least, that's how I feel about my iphone-mode normal-mode expert-controls 1cc of Espgaluda II on the iPad.

That's how I felt after playing the xbox 360 version of Esp II on normal for the first time.

It's a completely different game.

[Cyarc]

But if you enjoyed the iphone version, I highly suggest you play the 360 ports. They are much harder though, so keep that in mind.

So ESPGaluda has harder patterns on arcade then the arcade Iphone version? I defiantly would have them on 360, but bought a PS3 before all the sweet Cave games were coming out and I really have no need for two consoles.

[drunkninja24]

I believe the Hard difficulty on the iPhone versions matches the bullet patterns of normal on the 360 versions.

[Drachenherz]

I believe the Hard difficulty on the iPhone versions matches the bullet patterns of normal on the 360 versions.

As I have both the iPad and the xbox port, I can confirm this.

Yup.

"hard" on the pad is exactly the same butt-rape as "normal" on the xbox, arcade/360 mode... :ugly:

*looks to Anesthetize: got some lube left?*

[DragonInstall]

Being able to zip around the screen and move with extreme precision is really what makes it extremely easy.

[Drachenherz]

Being able to zip around the screen and move with extreme precision is really what makes it extremely easy.

You're sure? Because Hard mode on the iPad feels quite like "normal" mode on xbox... And I managed to get some mastery of the stick in the last months... But yeah... The touchscreen-controls are spot on, I love em....

And "hard" on the iPad screws me in the same way as "normal" on the xbox. Uah, I need more lube.

Why exactly am I gaming this kind of games?

I must be some kind of masochist... :-/

[burgerkingdiamond]

No.

They are not legit.

At least, that's how I feel about my iphone-mode normal-mode expert-controls 1cc of Espgaluda II on the iPad.

That's how I felt after playing the xbox 360 version of Esp II on normal for the first time.

It's a completely different game.

Im curious about what makes Esp II for 360 different than that PCB? I have it but have never played the PCB.

[brentsg]

The controls essentially give you dynamic ship speed, making them much easier just for that reason alone.

it is what it is, a 1cc of the iPhone game.

Being able to quickly move anyplace you need in an instant allows you to avoid collisions without much memorization or planning.

[RNGmaster]

It's an accomplishment and it requires skill, so by definition it is legit. Come on, don't rush to seek our approval. Just be proud of what you've accomplished, because the alternative is low self-esteem (which can't be good for you).

[NTSC-J]

I'm afraid that's bush league, brother. Simply unacceptable.

DDP has the auto-bomb in the arcade version, btw. I'd recommend getting the 360 port, it's good and you'd probably get that 1CC after a few tries.

[IseeThings]

But if you enjoyed the iphone version, I highly suggest you play the 360 ports. They are much harder though, so keep that in mind.

So ESPGaluda has harder patterns on arcade then the arcade Iphone version? I defiantly would have them on 360, but bought a PS3 before all the sweet Cave games were coming out and I really have no need for two consoles.

If they had the same bullet patterns and bullets as the arcade versions I doubt you'd be able to even see the bullets or the gaps to stand a chance. It's tight enough on a 30 inch screen.

Likewise the controls are different, you think people complain about lag in MAME here? it's nothing compared to the type of lag a touchscreen / motion type device can introduce as they have to sample data across several frames (in hardware) to make sure contacts are valid and such, not to mention movement speeds etc. are completely adjusted for this type of device.

Anything on such a device is incomparable to an actual arcade version. It's a port, like any other.

That's not to say 1CCing the iPhone version isn't an achievement, it's just not the same achievement as 1CCing the arcade version.

[EU03]

Speaking of which, is there any reason to attempt playing Espgaluda II for score? Having to toggle the auto-fire seems way too finicky to achieve points in a lot of areas, from my experience with the Lite version. Maybe with enough practice or on an iPad, but...
I'd much rather play the games for score and less for the clear.

Actually, is there any reason to get Espgaluda off the App Store if you already have the 360 version? Having a pocketable version would be nice, but I'm already kind of miffed at some of the touchscreen controls. Daifukkatsu is fine, as I'm not in a position to have a j360 right now.

[Anesthetize]

"hard" on the pad is exactly the same butt-rape as "normal" on the xbox, arcade/360 mode... :ugly:

*looks to Anesthetize: got some lube left?*

Nope, ran out the same day the game arrived!

[Elixir]

How can you say it's an achievement when an achievement or trophy icon is not present?

[drauch]

NEVAR.

[hipgnosis]

It's a legit iPhone 1cc. Can't be compared to ports or PCBs since they are different games.

[TrevHead (TVR)]

While I dont think theres anything wrong with touch or mouse control per se if that floats your boat, they are a more precise method then pad or stick and thus easier to play.

Thats why ive nothing but respect for that guy who 1-ALLed DDP with a guitar controller and that chap on YT who can beat NES platformers with a dancemat. (I invited him here in a effort to get him to play a shmup but most folk here didnt seem that impressed)

[burgerkingdiamond]

While I dont think theres anything wrong with touch or mouse control per se if that floats your boat, they are a more precise method then pad or stick and thus easier to play.

Thats why ive nothing but respect for that guy who 1-ALLed DDP with a guitar controller and that chap on YT who can beat NES platformers with a dancemat. (I invited him here in a effort to get him to play a shmup but most folk here didnt seem that impressed)

Are fucking around? If not gimme those links, I want to see.

[njiska]

I don't care if it's a PCB, an Xbox, an iPhone or a Tiger Telematics, a 1CC is a 1CC. Now qualifications are important, A 1cc of PCB != 1cc Xbox 360 mode != 1cc iPhone, but they're all 1cc's. Just like a 1cc of an arrange mode can count.

Frankly 1ccing hard arcade mode on the iPhone deserves some credit because of the difficulty of the controls, on normal it's not so bad, but I still say job well done.

[Thjodbjorn]

Speaking of which, is there any reason to attempt playing Espgaluda II for score? Having to toggle the auto-fire seems way too finicky to achieve points in a lot of areas, from my experience with the Lite version. Maybe with enough practice or on an iPad, but...
I'd much rather play the games for score and less for the clear.

Actually, is there any reason to get Espgaluda off the App Store if you already have the 360 version? Having a pocketable version would be nice, but I'm already kind of miffed at some of the touchscreen controls. Daifukkatsu is fine, as I'm not in a position to have a j360 right now.

I really enjoy the iPhone modes on these games. They play/score differently, so it's not the same experience.

Also, that's good to know about iphone hard = 360 normal, thanks!

[Despatche]

has anyone read how zany this op is... no, of course not, ops are ignored and the lol topic title is taken for a ride

I recently got an Ipod touch and one of my first purchases was Dodonpachi Resurection and ESPGaluda II. I have never gotten any 1cc before but now I have 1cc both Dodonpachi and ESPGaluda on "Arcade Mode". This makes me pretty excited but I wanted to know if it was considered "legit" or not.

just consider it a separate game like any other conversion

Dodonpachi I can see why not, they give you auto-bomb so its an enteriley different game.

this is not a conversion of dodonpachi but of dodonpachi daifukkatsu, which has autobomb

[TrevHead (TVR)]

While I dont think theres anything wrong with touch or mouse control per se if that floats your boat, they are a more precise method then pad or stick and thus easier to play.

Thats why ive nothing but respect for that guy who 1-ALLed DDP with a guitar controller and that chap on YT who can beat NES platformers with a dancemat. (I invited him here in a effort to get him to play a shmup but most folk here didnt seem that impressed)

Are fucking around? If not gimme those links, I want to see.

Heres that Dancemat guy thread I posted http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... ilit=dance
Reading through it, it seems to of been allot more popular then i remembered with only Elixir (and CLP) telling me I suck, but I forgive him, he must of been having a bad day bless his little cotton socks

As for the DDP guy I dont have any links or vids, All I know is that it was preformed for some french arcade game web tv show, the one that Promethous was on. Does anyone have the video, as I too would love to see it.

BTW In that thread and CLP's post, in the left bracket where the avatar pic are it doesnt show how many posts his made. Whats the cause of it? A ban? I thought those who get banned just display banned below their user name.


Anyway back on topic ill like to add that even though a 1CC is easier the other methods. As a poster just pointed out, the OP or anyone else who pulls off a 1CC on the iphone/ipad shouldnt feel put off because others think its easy. What matters is how difficult you found it. If you found it really challenging and had to work hard to get the 1CC, then it is a great feat. For example my first 1CC was Blue Wish Reserrection (Normal, default settings with autobomb on) which is regarded by most here to be piss easy. But because it was my 1st 1CC and I worked at it for a month or 2 to beable to beat it, its my favorite 1CC as it was my first (man what a buzz when it finally did it)

[Vyxx]

How can you say it's an achievement when an achievement or trophy icon is not present?

So all of the "achievements" I've made playing in the arcades for the past 20 years were for nothing?!
NOTHING?!

[DragonInstall]

How can you say it's an achievement when an achievement or trophy icon is not present?

So all of the "achievements" I've made playing in the arcades for the past 20 years were for nothing?!
NOTHING?!

Damn straight.

[mesh control]

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[MSZ]

I believe the Hard difficulty on the iPhone versions matches the bullet patterns of normal on the 360 versions.

The patterns are as same as the real thing, but the overall game speed in the iPhone version is MUCH slower than arcade which makes it way easier to play.

[Hair]

Does your iPhone have Sanwa or Seimitsu parts? Oh... neither?

Is watching the crap Lord of the Rings movies the same as spending the time to read the real books? How about watching the pathetic Dune movies versus reading the books?

Play DDP on a real console (Saturn), or arcade machine, or MAME with a good arcade stick. That will answer your question. It's not the same. But yes, you did do something most people can't do. It is an accomplishment, but not in the same league as 1ccing the real game.

The iPhone is a cute way for shooter vets to play dumbed down versions of good games when stuck at the DMV. If you haven't played and 1cc'd the real thing, why bother with the iPhone crap?

Maybe I am an elitist... but while the iPhone and iPad are cutting edge in many ways, I don't consider them gaming platforms for anyone but casual gaming lemmings. As gaming machines they are pathetic. You can't 1cc an iPhone joke and then 1cc on the real arcade machine. So... no... it doesn't count. Use the phone to call a girl and leave the gaming to ugly gargoyles such as myself.