Panzer Bandit (PSX) is freaking awesome

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 6:10 am

In some thread a while back that turned into a "Treasure is overrated" flame-fest (happens a lot these days

) I heard a lot of people talking about how Panzer Bandit is supposedly better than Guardian Heroes. I'm a huge Treasure fan, so while I didn't agree with what people said about GH, I was curious about Panzer Bandit.

I picked it up yesterday, and I must say that I'm -really- impressed. PB is fantastic! 4 unique characters, excellent control, large variety of moves and enemies, great visuals, and good character design. Is it better than GH? Who cares! Buy them both!

They're two of the finest beat-em-ups -ever-. Up there with the Capcom Dungeons and Dragons games for me.

I guess good things can come out of flame wars on occassion.

Thanks for the recommendation to whoever brought this game up!

Bar81 · Post by **Bar81** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:41 am

You're welcome. btw Guardian Heroes is still overrated crap

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:26 am

http://www.classicgaming.com/reviews/pa ... bandit.htm

Just a reminder.

One friend of mine has this, but I haven't played it enough to judge. I hope it makes a better alternative to GuardianH than GunnersH is to Gunstar.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:45 am

Looks better than the crows.

Bar81 · Post by **Bar81** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:06 am

neorichieb1971 wrote:Looks better than the crows.

That's not hard. Crows is overrated crap also. It's a boring and average beat-em-up.

Danny · Post by **Danny** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:11 am

GH is an awsome game, spent so much of my life playing that game to perfection lol.

The game is rather like marmite, you either love it or hate it!

Ord · Post by **Ord** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:17 am

Danny wrote:GH is an awsome game, spent so much of my life playing that game to perfection lol.

Agreed! I adore this game and rank it as one of Treasures finest. It really is my favourite scrolling fighting game ever.

Post by **Shatterhand** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 4:11 pm

Does it have the Battle Mode available on Guardian Heroes?

PaCrappa · Post by **PaCrappa** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 5:03 pm

LOL, this game kicks the shit out of GH. If you guys wanna talk about Guardian Heroes, you should start up a thread. I was under the impression that this thread was for a quality title.

Pa

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 5:10 pm

I've been looking for this game awhile. I wanted to see how it stacked up to GH myself.

PaCrappa · Post by **PaCrappa** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 5:21 pm

It's much simpler and easier to get the hang of. It still has its difficult moments, but it's easier to pick up and play. GH is so complicated. Plus I don't recall GH having kickass juggling of enemies to the friggin moon. You can seriously juggle enemies right off the top of the screen. Its pretty cool. The art is also totally awesome. A wee bit Treasure inspired and very slick.

Pa

Specineff · Post by **Specineff** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:18 pm

Somehow the art reminds me of Power Stone's. Or the other way around.

Dartagnan1083 · Post by **Dartagnan1083** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:04 pm

PaCrappa wrote:Plus I don't recall GH having kickass juggling of enemies to the friggin moon. You can seriously juggle enemies right off the top of the screen.

You could juggle in GH, you just to remember the proper techniques and spells to use.
Heck, with one character you could acually make them constantly bounce into the air off of a particular spell.

But I still have to pick up Panzer Bandit.
I loves me some good beat em' ups

Danny · Post by **Danny** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:52 pm

er no juggle combo's in GH?... don;t mean to offend dude but I'm proberbly going to anyway but you must of been pretty bad at the game if you could not juggle on it.

All you had to do was some uppercut followed buy a few quick light flying kicks or a speical move and you have a juggle or better yet if you picked the green ninja (name escapes me now) his electric wave move can do some serious combo'ing/damage, best I got was 252 hits juggling several (big) enemies.

Although I'm told the other game is the dog's b*ll*cks so I will proberbl pick it up since I do apreacate a good scrolling beat-em-up.

BUHA · Post by **BUHA** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:47 am

I tried this one out and I got bored of it FAST. Not very much challenge, but I didn't have a problem with the style and everything else. Just the game itself isn't a lot of fun for me. I felt like I was always doing the same thing.

I've never played Guardian Heroes but it seems to get really mixed reviews. Love or Hate, and neither in between!

PaCrappa · Post by **PaCrappa** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:41 am

Danny wrote:er no juggle combo's in GH?... don;t mean to offend dude but I'm proberbly going to anyway but you must of been pretty bad at the game if you could not juggle on it.

All you had to do was some uppercut followed buy a few quick light flying kicks or a speical move and you have a juggle or better yet if you picked the green ninja (name escapes me now) his electric wave move can do some serious combo'ing/damage, best I got was 252 hits juggling several (big) enemies.

Although I'm told the other game is the dog's b*ll*cks so I will proberbl pick it up since I do apreacate a good scrolling beat-em-up.

Last time I played GH was the summer of 2000. Bad? Good? Who knows. I actually really like GH, but I greatly prefer PB and played it a whole lot more. GH is on the "someday soon" shelf.

Pa

bluberry · Post by **bluberry** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:39 am

Panzer Bandit and Guardian Heroes are both cool, but if you guys want the most badical brawlin' experience ever... <b>CADILLACS AND DINOSAURS</b>. The name says it all.

Specineff · Post by **Specineff** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:59 am

Alien VS Predator pwns it big time.

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:18 am

So can I only assume this is another one of those obscure titles selling for well over $100??

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:49 am

No it is just a very obscure title that is never seen over here. Probably $50.

AngelFish · Post by **AngelFish** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:00 pm

Im going to try and get Panzer bandit. But guardian Heroes is the best scrolling beatemup ive played

SheSaidDutch · Post by **SheSaidDutch** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:32 pm

Streets of Rage 1&2 are my favourite

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:34 pm

It goes for around 5000 yen in Japan, so I figure the overseas price will be up around $70. (5000 yen is about $50 US, but there's always a substantial price jump.)

roushimsx · Post by **roushimsx** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:01 am

Where's a good place to get it from? Ebay has been pretty dry as of late

I'm also trying hard to find a copy of Chippoke Ralph No Daibouken / The Adventure Of Little Ralph but can never seem to find a copy for sale on ebay or anywhere else

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:04 am

roushimsx wrote:Where's a good place to get it from? Ebay has been pretty dry as of late

I'm also trying hard to find a copy of Chippoke Ralph No Daibouken / The Adventure Of Little Ralph but can never seem to find a copy for sale on ebay or anywhere else

Have you tried Ebay stores? This seems like a game one of them might stock... you'll pay for it though...

How much does Little Ralph go for these days? I bought it back when it was new and just kept it since then... I've heard it's pretty expensive, but I'll warn you that it's not all that great. It's a very basic action platformer with some pretty 2D visuals.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:12 am

There WAS a copy of Ralph on there a few weeks ago (IIRC Palet was selling it)...I think it went for over 100$, but I'm not positive. In any case, I've only seen it there once or twice.

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:14 am

BulletMagnet wrote:There WAS a copy of Ralph on there a few weeks ago (IIRC Palet was selling it)...I think it went for over 100$, but I'm not positive. In any case, I've only seen it there once or twice.

I love it when something I've had for a while turns out to be valuable. I'll stick this up there with Suikoden 2...

Little Ralph is -NOT- worth $100. Do not buy it at that price unless you simply MUST have every last platform game on the PS1.

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:36 am

Markinjapan had ralph for like $70-$80, you might get $100+ because not many are listed.

Panzer Bandit is just never listed on eBay, I have been looking for a year and have probably seen two (but missed them). Both times it was like $40-50, it is not like it is in high demand, there is just a very low supply.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:57 am

So it's like some older GB games that aren't really rare or expensive, but don't appear on ebay much? What is up with that? It's easy to find Sin and Punishment or Raidant Silvergun on ebay, but Beatmania GB, the GB/GBC Puyo Puyo games, and some others that aren't expensive hardly ever show.

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:32 am

BrianC wrote:So it's like some older GB games that aren't really rare or expensive, but don't appear on ebay much? What is up with that? It's easy to find Sin and Punishment or Raidant Silvergun on ebay, but Beatmania GB, the GB/GBC Puyo Puyo games, and some others that aren't expensive hardly ever show.

Rarity, price, and availability aren't always directly related - demand is also a big factor, as is how well a game is known (although that fits into "demand" I guess). RS is well known and in demand, as is Sin & Punishment, Alien Solider, Zanac X Zanac, etc. Even though few copies of the games may exist, they're in constant rotation people people want them and are aware of them.

Games like Blast Wind and the GB games you mentioned are rare and semi-valuable, but they're in less demand and fewer people are aware of them, so they don't change hands as often.