A couple more minor Revolution details...

[Vexorg]

Link

Some of the highlights:

-All gamecube controllers will be usable on the Revolution.
-The system will use SD cards to augment the 512MB of built-in flash

A couple more things in the article, not a whole lot new though.

[FatCobra]

SD Cards? What the hell are those? I thought everyone is making memory sticks the industry standard so I don't have to keep spending money to buy a gazillion memory cards for each system.

[crithit5000]

Please, we all Nintendo is ridiculously slow when it comes to adopting formats everyone else is using...

[FatCobra]

I wonder what Iwata meant by, "You will be suprised by the Revolution's controller."

It's going to have an awesome D-Pad? It better damn well have it.

Of course since the Gamecube's pads are backwards compatable with the Revolution, you guys with the Hori pads should be okay in case the Revolution's controller is not 2-D friendly.

As for the older game service, this better be 120% accurate emulation of the older games because we are paying for it. Although I bet some smart hacker will figure out how to bypass the copy-protection and we get em for free like they first promised.

EDIT: It's about time we started going back to internal memory. I hate buying memory cards.

[BulletMagnet]

-All gamecube controllers will be usable on the Revolution.

Am I alone in asking "Who'd WANT that?"

[Darkcomet72]

Am I alone in asking "Who'd WANT that?"

That made no sense. How could you be alone if you believe everyone wouldn't like it?

Or, how can noone like it if you're the only one that dosen't like it?

[Thunder Force]

SD Cards? What the hell are those? I thought everyone is making memory sticks the industry standard so I don't have to keep spending money to buy a gazillion memory cards for each system.

The PS3 also has an SD Card slot (in addition to Sony Memory Stick)

Ken Kutaragi: "SCEI and PlayStation will openly adopt world standards that have a good reputation amongst technicians. So SD Cards and Memory Sticks are the same to us. We will treat them equally..."

[Vexorg]

Given the fact that I have at least 4-5 SD cards already, including a 512 and 1GB, I should be well set. These days, SD and CF are by far the most popular of the memory card formats out there. They're also significantly cheaper than equivalent capacity Sony format stuff.

[BulletMagnet]

That made no sense. How could you be alone if you believe everyone wouldn't like it?

Or, how can noone like it if you're the only one that dosen't like it?

Dang semantics. But I'm half-surprised that no one else mentioned that, as some people, like myself, have many "issues" with the GC controller...others don't mind it, but I guess I'm the first (maybe the only) one to speak for the one side, heh.

[Valgar]

It is backwards compatible with the Gamecube, thus, they add GC controller support.

[BulletMagnet]

*smacks forehead*

D'oh. Forgot about that.

[Specineff]

If they don't put a decent D-pad, Nintendo can keep their Gyroscope/potato masher/food processor/toaster thingy controller.

[FatCobra]

If they don't put a decent D-pad, Nintendo can keep their Gyroscope/potato masher/food processor/toaster thingy controller.

I concur. Plus, I'd rather have the original game cart and the system it was designed for.

[sethsez]

Although I normally agree with that, one huge benefit of this machine is the ability to play NES and SNES games hooked up with component or RGB. If the emulation is otherwise perfect (or if they use actual NES and SNES chips, though I doubt it) then this will be tempting.

[FRO]

Although I normally agree with that, one huge benefit of this machine is the ability to play NES and SNES games hooked up with component or RGB. If the emulation is otherwise perfect (or if they use actual NES and SNES chips, though I doubt it) then this will be tempting.

I 2nd this. I already own an NES and a SNES, as well as a Gamecube, but eventually those consoles will die and the repair shop about an hour from my place will cease to repair them. After which time I could either play my games through a revolution (which I could purchase more than one to stock up, as it were), or I could pointlessly search the internet for more NES and/or SNES consoles to play for 6 months at a time until they die as well. I see the backwards compatibility as a primary feature for myself, and the main reason I'll probably purcahse one. I think it's incredibly smart on Nintendo's part.

I mean, think about it. Dad buys a Revolution for his kids. Some of today's dad's are NES gameplayers. When dad realizes his Rev will play old NES titles, he'll either pull that stockpile of games out of the closet that he hasn't been able to play because his NES busted (and he failed to replace it) so he can introduce his kids to the classics, OR he'll get all nostalgic and find a few NES favs in used game shops & pawn shops and do the same. Brilliant.

[FatCobra]

Well, I did think about this as well...and getting a Revolution might be a good idea.

In general cartridge-based consoles will laster longer than CD-based ones because there is less moving parts (no lasers or drive motors to wear out). I know the batteries on the carts will eventually die out and I don't know if I am brave enough to take the carts apart to replace them.

But if Nintendo is going to make the player do some bullshit to aquire some old titles for his Revolutoin like buy 5 $50 crap games when it is easier and cheaper to track down the originals, then forget about it.

SNES units don't break down that easily, right?

[Dylan1CC]

Please, we all Nintendo is ridiculously slow when it comes to adopting formats everyone else is using...

Yeah, I'll believe the Revolution uses SD cards when I actually have an SD card in my hand and can feel it clicking into my Rev console in front of me.

But with internal memory of 512MB, that will at least hold a good handful of AAA SNES content like SMW, SMW2, Super Metroid, maybe even all the DKC games.

I wonder what Iwata meant by, "You will be suprised by the Revolution's controller."

It's going to have an awesome D-Pad? It better damn well have it.

You kiddin'? We'll be lucky if it even has an analog stick based on a supposed insider report in Game Informer a few months ago. It sounds like it will be touch based with not much more than 2 buttons on the right. A weird touch-based NES pad from the future? Hmmmm.

[fpbrush]

Yeah, I'll believe the Revolution uses SD cards when I actually have an SD card in my hand and can feel it clicking into my Rev console in front of me.

haha, so true...SO true..
i remember sd gamecube memory stick adapter rumors...

But with internal memory of 512MB, that will at least hold a good handful of AAA SNES content like SMW, SMW2, Super Metroid, maybe even all the DKC games.

assuming the files are a large as a snes rom dump.. you could fit quite a few games on 512mb. roms are usually only 5mb if that.*




*fpbrush does not condone the use of roms as a substitution to buying the actual games

[BulletMagnet]

SNES units don't break down that easily, right?

Most of Nintendo's hardware has a reputation for being pretty sturdy. I've had my SNES (original model) for close to 15 years now, and while it's a bit finicky sometimes it still plays well for the most part.

[SheSaidDutch]

SNES units don't break down that easily, right?

Most of Nintendo's hardware has a reputation for being pretty sturdy. I've had my SNES (original model) for close to 15 years now, and while it's a bit finicky sometimes it still plays well for the most part.

Yeah I cna vouch aswell, OT Including my Sega MD model 1-still going strong after 12 years

[Dylan1CC]

assuming the files are a large as a snes rom dump.. you could fit quite a few games on 512mb. roms are usually only 5mb if that.* *fpbrush does not condone the use of roms as a substitution to buying the actual games

Excellent point on dumped files being smaller.

In any case, the DKC series is one of the few AAA SNES series/games I don't own. So whether or not Iwata makes me pay is of little concern to me, I keep my best games. I probably won't download much more than DKC and Earthbound.

But, if they get their act together and try something really cool like say translating Jap NES and SNES games...now that I would pay for depending on the titles. Or maybe some cool unreleased stuff like the Ura Zelda DD expansion levels. I just hope Iwata realizes he is making people angry paying for games they already should own, but he won't get any of my cash unless he gives me some interesting content like the idea I just mentioned.

[roushimsx]

When dad realizes his Rev will play old NES titles, he'll either pull that stockpile of games out of the closet that he hasn't been able to play because his NES busted (and he failed to replace it) so he can introduce his kids to the classics, OR he'll get all nostalgic and find a few NES favs in used game shops & pawn shops and do the same. Brilliant.

I was under the impression that the NES/SNES/N64 games would only be downloadable and that there wouldn't be any adaptors or ports to hook up the original carts. I'd LOVE to be wrong on this one... i really don't feel like paying for downloadable versions of games I already own.

[sethsez]

I just hope Iwata realizes he is making people angry paying for games they already should own

Except plenty of people don't own them, whether they should or not. I never got around to buying Earthbound or F-Zero, for example. Not everyone was a collector back in the 8 and 16 bit days.

And why shouldn't people pay? This is a mentality I don't get. I can't just walk into Best Buy and take Pet Sounds because it's a few decades old. All About Eve isn't given away because it's in black and white. Why do people expect otherwise for games?

[SheSaidDutch]

I just hope Iwata realizes he is making people angry paying for games they already should own

Except plenty of people don't own them, whether they should or not. I never got around to buying Earthbound or F-Zero, for example. Not everyone was a collector back in the 8 and 16 bit days.

And why shouldn't people pay? This is a mentality I don't get. I can't just walk into Best Buy and take Pet Sounds because it's a few decades old. All About Eve isn't given away because it's in black and white. Why do people expect otherwise for games?

I agree and some people may have sold their collection e.g me

OT--Quiet about Petsounds I nearly bought the collection a year back

I still haven't got round to purchase Smile

[sethsez]

I still haven't got round to purchase Smile

You should. It's a fantastic album.

[Dylan1CC]

I just hope Iwata realizes he is making people angry paying for games they already should own

Except plenty of people don't own them, whether they should or not. I never got around to buying Earthbound or F-Zero, for example. Not everyone was a collector back in the 8 and 16 bit days.

And why shouldn't people pay? This is a mentality I don't get. I can't just walk into Best Buy and take Pet Sounds because it's a few decades old. All About Eve isn't given away because it's in black and white. Why do people expect otherwise for games?

OK, lemme make myself a little clearer. If you sell off surplus games, of course. Many people do that. I personally however cannot fathom selling a great cart like SMW2 or Super Metroid.

And yeah, it's his call to make people pay. Ionly hope again that it means the service will have some excellent content like previously unreleased-in-the-U.S. games. Then I will give Iwata big props.

[SheSaidDutch]

I still haven't got round to purchase Smile

You should. It's a fantastic album.

Thank you I'll grab a copy when I have some money spare

atm I'm fueling my PSX game purchasing

[Dylan1CC]

I forgot to add, it's indeed great that I will be able to use my switched hori pad on the Rev. It's also nifty that the drive excepts both normal DVDs and GC discs.

[sethsez]

I just hope Iwata realizes he is making people angry paying for games they already should own

Except plenty of people don't own them, whether they should or not. I never got around to buying Earthbound or F-Zero, for example. Not everyone was a collector back in the 8 and 16 bit days.

And why shouldn't people pay? This is a mentality I don't get. I can't just walk into Best Buy and take Pet Sounds because it's a few decades old. All About Eve isn't given away because it's in black and white. Why do people expect otherwise for games?

OK, lemme make myself a little clearer. If you sell off surplus games, of course. Many people do that. I personally however cannot fathom selling a great cart like SMW2 or Super Metroid.

And yeah, it's his call to make people pay. Ionly hope again that it means the service will have some excellent content like previously unreleased-in-the-U.S. games. Then I will give Iwata big props.

Surplus games? Many people never bought them for whatever reason. I was a kid back then... I couldn't afford every game I wanted, so I missed out on the first Lunar (though I eventually got it), Final Fantasy III, Earthbound, F-Zero, Actraiser, Dragon Warrior IV, Kirby's Adventure, etc. Like I said, not everyone was able to buy anything and everything they wanted (or didn't know about some great games), so they missed out the first time around.

[SheSaidDutch]

And yeah, it's his call to make people pay. Ionly hope again that it means the service will have some excellent content like previously unreleased-in-the-U.S. games. Then I will give Iwata big props.

Surplus games? Many people never bought them for whatever reason. I was a kid back then... I couldn't afford every game I wanted, so I missed out on the first Lunar (though I eventually got it), Final Fantasy III, Earthbound, F-Zero, Actraiser, Dragon Warrior IV, Kirby's Adventure, etc. Like I said, not everyone was able to buy anything and everything they wanted (or didn't know about some great games), so they missed out the first time around.[/quote]

I agree esp with most games costing on average of £50

Some games I only found out about when the GBA had the ports e.g SMW2