A little news on SNK Classics Collection-ANOTHER UPDATE....

[dave4shmups]

So, I emailed SNK-PLAYMORE USA yesterday, asking whether or not this compilation will every see the light of day. Here's their answer:

"We will develop for PS2 after PS3 arrives and when SCEA relaxes it's
attitude towards our games. I can not promise which games but they
will
come.



www.SNKPLAYMOREUSA.com"

I just replyed to this email asking if they have any plans to develop this for any other consoles, so we'll see what they say.

[Nei First]

Well, they might as well do it and cash in on what they deserve.

After all If they don't, people will only just play their older games through emulators anyway.

[sjewkestheloon]

i predict that the ps3s release will bring many more shmups to the ps2. the same as witht he ps1, with th console becoming outdated but still hugely installed in homes, there is the potential for cheap impulse buys.

the great reason why strikers 1945 part 2 is available for about 3 quid in most places

methinks we'll be seeing a hell of a lot of more compilations

[Shatterhand]

I bet that, deep in their hearts, they want to reply with something like "We will develop for PS2 after PS3 arrives and when SCEA stops being so stupid and fucking up with us"

[SheSaidDutch]

Fatal Fury 3 pretty please SNK

[Nemo]

I feel a little sorry for SNK, but when you deal with the devil you're going to get burned. If they would just focus their games on the Xbox and GC, we would all dance.

[BulletMagnet]

i predict that the ps3s release will bring many more shmups to the ps2. the same as witht he ps1, with th console becoming outdated but still hugely installed in homes, there is the potential for cheap impulse buys.

Hopefully such future ports will be decent quality though...in the past that hasn't always been the case.

[LoneSage]

They also had plans to release SNK classics (Magician Lord, early NG titles) on the PS1, but that never came into fruition. So I wouldn't get my hopes up, unless 20 people spam the hell out of their web site saying "SNK CLASSICS PLZ!!!"

[jp]

They said the same thing about the Dreamcast... sort of...

[Capt. Takehiko]

As unlikely as it is, it will be great when and if it happens.

[dave4shmups]

I feel a little sorry for SNK, but when you deal with the devil you're going to get burned. If they would just focus their games on the Xbox and GC, we would all dance.

Exactly Nemo; I mean this email REALLY begs the question of WHY SNK is even waiting on Sony anymore, instead of just releasing this on the XBOX, where it would most certainly be accepted.

I'm no business expert, but that certainly seems like the logical thing to do!

[Acid King]

Exactly Nemo; I mean this email REALLY begs the question of WHY SNK is even waiting on Sony anymore, instead of just releasing this on the XBOX, where it would most certainly be accepted.

I'm no business expert, but that certainly seems like the logical thing to do!

Probably because of the low installed base of the Xbox in Japan, which is where the SNK collection would actually sell decently.

[dave4shmups]

Exactly Nemo; I mean this email REALLY begs the question of WHY SNK is even waiting on Sony anymore, instead of just releasing this on the XBOX, where it would most certainly be accepted.

I'm no business expert, but that certainly seems like the logical thing to do!

Probably because of the low installed base of the Xbox in Japan, which is where the SNK collection would actually sell decently.

Good point about the XBOX's low base in Japan-but still, there are a LOT of gamers over here, myself included, that would love to see a collection that included arcade ports of some Neo Geo shmups.

[dave4shmups]

OK, SNK's response to whether or not they'll be releasing SNK Classics Collection for the XBOX was simply: "No".

Morons.

[Dylan1CC]

I feel a little sorry for SNK, but when you deal with the devil you're going to get burned. If they would just focus their games on the Xbox and GC, we would all dance.

Exactly, why do they keep trying to deal more and more exclusively with Sony? They have had nothing but good treatment dealing with MS on XBox ports, why not just try them as their first route? And yeah, gimmie some Cube lovin.'

[TVG]

lololololo

[Nemo]

Exactly Nemo; I mean this email REALLY begs the question of WHY SNK is even waiting on Sony anymore, instead of just releasing this on the XBOX, where it would most certainly be accepted.

I'm no business expert, but that certainly seems like the logical thing to do!

Probably because of the low installed base of the Xbox in Japan, which is where the SNK collection would actually sell decently.

Granted porting the collection to Xbox primarily for the NA market would take more money and effort than simply bringing the PS2 version to the US. But the way I see it, if they were to make X (net amount) off the PS2 port in the US, and would make half of X off an Xbox port, half of X is still better than nothing by never being able to release the PS2 version. It's so ridiculous when companies like Working Designs and SNK-Playmore complain about SCEA's policies, yet they let it and SCEA run their companies instead of them running themselves.

[Capt. Takehiko]

I feel a little sorry for SNK, but when you deal with the devil you're going to get burned. If they would just focus their games on the Xbox and GC, we would all dance.

And yeah, gimmie some Cube lovin.'

There has not been a single SNK game on a Nintendo console since the SNES. I don't think they're going to change their minds now.

[BrianC]

I feel a little sorry for SNK, but when you deal with the devil you're going to get burned. If they would just focus their games on the Xbox and GC, we would all dance.

And yeah, gimmie some Cube lovin.'

There has not been a single SNK game on a Nintendo console since the SNES. I don't think they're going to change their minds now.

It technically isn't a console, but the GBA does have Metal Slug Advance, two KoF games, and is getting a port of the first Metal Slug. There's also Capcom vs. SNK 2 for the GameCube, but that doesn't count since it's more Capcom than SNK.

[Capt. Takehiko]

Yes GBA doesn't count. CvS 2 was developed by Capcom. Hence Capcom coming first in the title.

[BrianC]

Yes GBA doesn't count. CvS 2 was developed by Capcom. Hence Capcom coming first in the title.

Exactly why I said Capcom vs. SNK is more Capcom than SNK. GBA may not be a console, but it is a Nintendo system supported by SNK, so I think it's definatly not worth avoiding mention of it.

[dave4shmups]

Exactly Nemo; I mean this email REALLY begs the question of WHY SNK is even waiting on Sony anymore, instead of just releasing this on the XBOX, where it would most certainly be accepted.

I'm no business expert, but that certainly seems like the logical thing to do!

Probably because of the low installed base of the Xbox in Japan, which is where the SNK collection would actually sell decently.

Granted porting the collection to Xbox primarily for the NA market would take more money and effort than simply bringing the PS2 version to the US. But the way I see it, if they were to make X (net amount) off the PS2 port in the US, and would make half of X off an Xbox port, half of X is still better than nothing by never being able to release the PS2 version. It's so ridiculous when companies like Working Designs and SNK-Playmore complain about SCEA's policies, yet they let it and SCEA run their companies instead of them running themselves.

Well said Nemo. These companies DO need to start running themselves, and go with Console-makers that will take their products. Honestly, this makes the Cave-Arika spat look reasonable.

[Dylan1CC]

I feel a little sorry for SNK, but when you deal with the devil you're going to get burned. If they would just focus their games on the Xbox and GC, we would all dance.

And yeah, gimmie some Cube lovin.'

There has not been a single SNK game on a Nintendo console since the SNES. I don't think they're going to change their minds now.

Yeah but besides Pac man there wasn't a single Namco title on a Nintendo system from post-NES until the Cube. I'm just sayin,' they would have a much easier time getting their stuff on the Cube and I don't see why it's so unheard of, Capcom vs SNK had a GC rev. Cube has all kinds of 2D lovin, Ikaruga, Alien Hominid, Chaos Field, Shiki to name but a few. It's a much better 2D console than the '64 and SNK-Playmore could do a lot worse as an additonal console to port on.

[BrianC]

And yeah, gimmie some Cube lovin.'

There has not been a single SNK game on a Nintendo console since the SNES. I don't think they're going to change their minds now.

Yeah but besides Pac man there wasn't a single Namco title on a Nintendo system from post-NES until the Cube. I'm just sayin,' they would have a much easier time getting their stuff on the Cube and I don't see why it's so unheard of, Capcom vs SNK had a GC rev. Cube has all kinds of 2D lovin, Ikaruga, Alien Hominid, Chaos Field, Shiki to name but a few. It's a much better 2D console than the '64 and SNK-Playmore could do a lot worse as an additonal console to port on.

You forgot about Suzuka 8-hours, Libble Rabble, Xandra, and Cosmo Gang on SNES. Namco also made some non Pac-Man GB games post NES too. There is also Mr. Driller on GBC.

[Dylan1CC]

There has not been a single SNK game on a Nintendo console since the SNES. I don't think they're going to change their minds now.

Yeah but besides Pac man there wasn't a single Namco title on a Nintendo system from post-NES until the Cube. I'm just sayin,' they would have a much easier time getting their stuff on the Cube and I don't see why it's so unheard of, Capcom vs SNK had a GC rev. Cube has all kinds of 2D lovin, Ikaruga, Alien Hominid, Chaos Field, Shiki to name but a few. It's a much better 2D console than the '64 and SNK-Playmore could do a lot worse as an additonal console to port on.

You forgot about Suzuka 8-hours, Libble Rabble, Xandra, and Cosmo Gang on SNES. Namco also made some non Pac-Man GB games post NES too. There is also Mr. Driller on GBC.

Interesting thanks. I guess i mainly meant stuff like Tales and Soul Caliber.

[dave4shmups]

Well, I just sent SNK an email today asking them why they don't just port over SNK Classics Collection to the XBOX, or the 360, given how friendly Microsoft has been to their games.

Here was their answer:

"MS does not have an inexpensive royalty band. They do not allow us to
market games for $19.99 based on the costs they charge. It is a
vicious
circle."

[Dynamite Force]

Well, I just sent SNK an email today asking them why they don't just port over SNK Classics Collection to the XBOX, or the 360, given how friendly Microsoft has been to their games.

Here was their answer:

"MS does not have an inexpensive royalty band. They do not allow us to
market games for $19.99 based on the costs they charge. It is a
vicious
circle."

Maybe they should port it to Gamecube instead. It's doing better in Japan than the Xbox is, IIRC and besides, it'll be a more welcome addition to its library than Xbox, IMO.

[dave4shmups]

That's a good idea, but SNK seems content to keep their heads stuck firmly up their arses.

I'm tired of waiting for this collection, and for SNK to use some common sense. When I get my NES, I'm just gonna get some SNK ports on that platform rather then wait for those morons to quit beating a dead horse.

[SheSaidDutch]

Art of Fighting is supposed to be coming although I want Fatal Fury 3!

[Danny]

I got fatal fury 3 on the pc... great stuff.

Yeah I want this collection to come out badly as well, just think being able to play SNK league bowling on your modern console legaly for the first time, I get all excited just thinking about it!