Black Sun Empire - it's all over

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Sat May 30, 2009 9:50 pm

Thank god for the Netherlands!

How the hell Black Sun Empire escaped me in my search for some decent Drum n Bass, I don't know, especially as they appear to have been around a good while.

These guys are better than good though - just listening to Cruel and Unusual, the second album (2005) and it is absolutely mindblowing.

The search in this thread...

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 75&start=0

...Is officially over! Hail to the Dutch kings of D&B!

And look, a videogame connection:

wikipedia wrote:They also recently lent one of their tracks ("Arrakis") to the E³ 2006 trailer of the game EVE Online titled "No Other Destiny".

And here's said trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jOJR5Xa ... re=related

Rubbish for about a minute...and then the music starts.

Why can't shmups have music like this

Seriously, Cave, meet Black Sun Empire, they lend music tracks to game related shenanigans! :p

Exe · Post by **Exe** » Sat May 30, 2009 9:59 pm

I#m living near the Netherlands and saw BSE quite a few times.

Especially their old stuff is really worth listening if you are into "Neurofunk"

I really recommend Noisia, also from the Netherlands and very similar to BSE.

Also check out Phace and misantroph

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Sat May 30, 2009 10:03 pm

Exe wrote:I#m living near the Netherlands and saw BSE quite a few times.

Especially their old stuff is really worth listening if you are into "Neurofunk"

I really recommend Noisia, also from the Netherlands and very similar to BSE.

Also check out Phace and misantroph

I'm all over it. BSE is like, the best thing I managed to miss in ever. Fucking amazing.

The Dutch are owning.

Exe · Post by **Exe** » Sat May 30, 2009 10:08 pm

yeah! but I think this "dutch style dnb" is just the next level of what Ed Rush & Optical and a few others did back in the nineties.

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Sat May 30, 2009 10:12 pm

Exe wrote:yeah! but I think this "dutch style dnb" is just the next level of what did Ed Rush & Optical and a few others in the UK back in the nineties.

It's sooooo goooood! (you can tell I've got my headphones in!

)

I like my D&B really dark, and this fits the bill perfectly - but the ambient balance is just right. Never heard it called 'Neurofunk' until now, but if that's what it is, well, then that's what I like.

The Sun VIP feat Concord Dawn
Boris the Blade
Arrakis...

Died and gone to heaven.

Exe · Post by **Exe** » Sat May 30, 2009 10:23 pm

Here in germany it's very popular too.

Here is a live set of Misantrop and Phace you might enjoy.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QYEZKMN5

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Sat May 30, 2009 10:41 pm

Thanks Exe, getting it now

EDIT: Sounds great, I'll have to leave it running during the day tomorrow (well over 2hrs there!)

It doesn't sound strictly D&B though, what category do these guys fall under?

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Sat May 30, 2009 11:21 pm

that right there is a it dirty. ME LIKE!

Arcatech · Post by **Arcatech** » Sun May 31, 2009 7:10 am

Exe wrote:Here in germany it's very popular too.

Here is a live set of Misantrop and Phace you might enjoy.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QYEZKMN5

If this is the set I"m thinking of, its really really good. Misanthrop and Phace are definetely the kings of Neurofunk.

BSE are very good too, but their style of composure is a little too simplified for my tastes. I remember going to a show of theirs when one of them came through Utah. They def know how to get a crowd amped up!

MathU · Post by **MathU** » Sun May 31, 2009 9:25 am

Skykid wrote:Why can't shmups have music like this

Never played Karous? You should. Illmatic Envelope has some good stuff too.

Exe · Post by **Exe** » Sun May 31, 2009 9:44 am

Skykid wrote:Thanks Exe, getting it now

EDIT: Sounds great, I'll have to leave it running during the day tomorrow (well over 2hrs there!)

It doesn't sound strictly D&B though, what category do these guys fall under?

As I said, this style of dnb is called "Neurofunk" over here, dunno if that's a common genre in the UK.

It's basiclly halfstep dnb with lots of mid range and mostly without any MCs.

My favs of this genre are Noisia, I saw them once in an underground parking garage and they absolutley smashed it.

Here's a small Video where the guys introduce themselves and their sound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_QRv0wMSIE

enjoy!

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Sun May 31, 2009 10:21 am

Exe wrote: Here's a small Video where the guys introduce themselves and their sound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_QRv0wMSIE

enjoy!

That's a pretty funny interview!

Thanks for all the info guys, I feel I'm set for a good while.

@ MathU, I haven't actually played Karous, I'll go and check out some vids.
Is Illmatic Envelope a group?

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Sun May 31, 2009 3:33 pm

Skykid wrote:Is Illmatic Envelope a group?

Heh, nope - another shooter by the company that did Karous, also known as "Illvelo."

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Sun May 31, 2009 5:46 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:
Skykid wrote:Is Illmatic Envelope a group?
Heh, nope - another shooter by the company that did Karous, also known as "Illvelo."

I found some Karous vids on ebay - the music is as MathU said, and pretty damn cool!
It looks like quite an interesting shmup - some kind of Giga Wing force reflect going on. What's the general consensus on it?

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Sun May 31, 2009 6:32 pm

MathU wrote:
Skykid wrote:Why can't shmups have music like this
Never played Karous? You should.

Erm, make that `You should... listen to the OST and never ever get poisened by the game itself`.
Karous is horrible and a defacing of Radirgy.

MathU · Post by **MathU** » Sun May 31, 2009 11:12 pm

lol
I think it's pretty fun. It's a lot different than Radirgy though.

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:12 am

Super Laydock wrote:
MathU wrote:
Skykid wrote:Why can't shmups have music like this
Never played Karous? You should.
Erm, make that `You should... listen to the OST and never ever get poisened by the game itself`.
Karous is horrible and a defacing of Radirgy.

Crap, that's disappointing, especially since it has such a promising soundtrack.

Ka0tiK · Post by **Ka0tiK** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:44 am

Neurofunk, eh? I thought it was just called Darkstep.

I love my DnB dark. Recently got into Future Prophecies's Bring the Noise!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jme5uV5hNPk

Quality sucks, so I suggest picking up the track and listen to the sick bassline.

Arcatech · Post by **Arcatech** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:53 am

Ka0tiK wrote:Neurofunk, eh? I thought it was just called Darkstep.

I love my DnB dark. Recently got into Future Prophecies's Bring the Noise!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jme5uV5hNPk

Quality sucks, so I suggest picking up the track and listen to the sick bassline.

Its hard to keep track of all the different subgenres in dnb. Does my head in sometimes.

. I guess the tech sound was originally called "techstep". Pioneered by Ed Rush and Optical.

Future Prophecies have made some pretty cool tracks no doubt. I kinda liked "trolls and fairytales" and "illusion of time"

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:17 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amqSGbQRDkw
just my 0.02$

Ka0tiK · Post by **Ka0tiK** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:27 pm

Jockel wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amqSGbQRDkw
just my 0.02$

Definitely some high BPM!

I just found this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9OWKTUduvo

I soooo wish I was there. Using Xample & Lomax's Remember sample.

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:36 pm

Just a guess, but if you like AndyC, you'll probably dig Baron
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaHsQTekjN0

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:21 pm

Skykid - I checked the youtubes' out. Arrakis wins, the other tracks don't do it for me.
I'm into Dutch music, but the other kind.

Ka0tiK · Post by **Ka0tiK** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:36 pm

Jockel wrote:Just a guess, but if you like AndyC, you'll probably dig Baron
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaHsQTekjN0

Not necessarily. It depends, really. I enjoy stuff like Calyx's Dead Ringer or )EIB('s Forgotten. Andy C just happens to play some dark stuff too and he definitely knows how to get a crowd going.

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:14 pm

DEL wrote: I checked the youtubes' out. Arrakis wins

Yeah, that's Black Sun Empire. Their albums have some very similar and equally good (if not better) tracks on them.

Can you imagine if it was a final boss theme or something?

Rupert H · Post by **Rupert H** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:50 pm

Skykid wrote:
Can you imagine if it was a final boss theme or something?

I reckon the end boss/tlb musics for Battle Garegga, Ketsui, Karous, DDP Dai-Fukatsu and Psyvariar are all up there wih Black Sun Empire in terms of raw, pulse-pumping music.

MathU · Post by **MathU** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:57 pm

Karous's secret last boss theme if you're wondering.

Ka0tiK · Post by **Ka0tiK** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:59 am

For any bassheads who are interested, I found this track in youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRDSG_8PuE8

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:14 am

Rupert H wrote:
Skykid wrote:
Can you imagine if it was a final boss theme or something?
I reckon the end boss/tlb musics for Battle Garegga, Ketsui, Karous, DDP Dai-Fukatsu and Psyvariar are all up there wih Black Sun Empire in terms of raw, pulse-pumping music.

Psyvariar is a winning game soundtrack. First time I got to the last two stages on that I couldn't believe my ears (as you probably well remember Rupe.

)

Black Heart's music is raw fer sure - sounds like that sick stuff you used to listen to.

@ Ka0tiK: I like that, nice track.

I'll investigate some others...

adversity1 · Post by **adversity1** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:27 am

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