Raiden IV PC, PS-2, PS-3...

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:39 am

I've been wanting to play Raiden IV for some time now, but I don't own an Xbox 360 let alone a Japanese version.

Are there any news of it being released on any other more "common" system like PC, PS-2, PS-3?

Post by **Dave_K.** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:51 pm

No. Taito Type X (PCB) or XB360 only.

MathU · Post by **MathU** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:03 pm

They really outta make a PC port eventually. Especially considering how little work it would take.

Post by **Dave_K.** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:17 pm

MathU wrote:They really outta make a PC port eventually. Especially considering how little work it would take.

Not if Raiden III for PC didn't bring them any money (probably due to piracy). I think they would have ported it by now otherwise.

MathU · Post by **MathU** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:36 pm

Really? I've been assuming that they have a deal with Microsoft holding back a PC port for a while, like a lot of other 360 games.

originalz · Post by **originalz** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:47 am

I doubt Raiden 4 is important enough for MS to try and score an exclusivity contract for.

I'm not sure how PS3 would qualify as a more "common" system...

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:16 am

Well it depends...
Can the European PAL PS-3 play Japanese PS-3 games?

It's been ages since I moded a console and I have lost track of the next-gen system mod chips. I've heard that you can upgrade the Bios of the DVD-Rom in the X-Box360 to play some copied games, but does that also render it region free?

Are there any Mod chips for the PS-3 yet?

rantak · Post by **rantak** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:47 am

ST Dragon wrote: Can the European PAL PS-3 play Japanese PS-3 games?

I've heard that you can upgrade the Bios of the DVD-Rom in the X-Box360 to play some copied games, but does that also render it region free?

Are there any Mod chips for the PS-3 yet?

All PS3s can play games from every region. Blu-ray movies however are region locked. No mod-chips/hacks for PS3 yet, except for some solutions that can be used to run old PS2/PSX game backups/imports.

You can flash the firmware of your 360 dvd drive, but it only enables you to play pirated/backup games. It doesn't allow any changes to the games, so changing the region for example is not possible. Only copies of those games that would originally work will run. Some 360 games are region free, but JAP-only titles unfortunately never are.

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:44 pm

In that case, there is no point buying a Euro PAL X360 to play Raiden IV and I sure don't want to go into all the trouble importing a JPN X360 console.

My only chance would be a PC release then...

Oh well, that sucks!

As for the PS-3, I remember back in 2005 SONY had announced that the PS-3 would be completely region free and that it would feature 100% back-ward compatibility, even all the way back to the PS-1 & PS-2 for all regions.
I guess it was just a commercial advertisement to increase the pre-sales hype...

If that was the case, I would have sold my old PSX & PS-2 and bought a PS-3.

except for some solutions that can be used to run old PS2/PSX game backups/imports.

So, what kind of “solutions” are required to be able to play every single JPN/US PS-1 & PS-2 game on a Euro PAL PS-3?

Post by **spadgy** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:07 pm

Not every PS3 game is region free.

Raiden IV is absolutely amazing. The more people playing it and submitting scores and such the better, so I really hope for a port sometime soon. Feels unlikely though...

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:25 pm

Which PS3 games are region locked? They just promised that every BD game would be region-free and as far as I know, they've lived up to the promise so far. Can't think of any PSN game either but I'm not sure on that.

ST Dragon wrote: As for the PS-3, I remember back in 2005 SONY had announced that the PS-3 would be completely region free and that it would feature 100% back-ward compatibility, even all the way back to the PS-1 & PS-2 for all regions.
I guess it was just a commercial advertisement to increase the pre-sales hype...

They never promised anything for the previous systems; they couldn't really considering the legal implications involved with every single publisher.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:28 pm

GTA i think (?). although sometimes doing an update of a US game running on a pal machine can fuck you up also (time crisis 4)

Necronom · Post by **Necronom** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:01 am

spadgy wrote:Not every PS3 game is region free.

There are no regioncoded PS3 games. The only thing that happens from time to time is that no matter which disc you boot, the game will only play the version that corresponds with your console nationality.
Uncharted (US, EU) on a JP PS3 results in a censored version.

gameoverDude · Post by **gameoverDude** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:01 am

Necronom wrote:
spadgy wrote:Not every PS3 game is region free.
There are no regioncoded PS3 games. The only thing that happens from time to time is that no matter which disc you boot, the game will only play the version that corresponds with your console nationality.
Uncharted (US, EU) on a JP PS3 results in a censored version.

Kind of like certain Neo-Geo home carts being censored when you play on US systems. It's weird that a ESRB T rated game would end up censored in Japan, however.

IIRC, Japan's version of Ninja Gaiden Sigma was censored somewhat. You can't behead enemies in that one. The USA version of NGS would get the CERO Z rating in Japan (like ESRB AO, but it's legally binding- you can't sell a Z game to minors).

Post by **spadgy** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:21 am

Necronom wrote:
spadgy wrote:Not every PS3 game is region free.
There are no regioncoded PS3 games. The only thing that happens from time to time is that no matter which disc you boot, the game will only play the version that corresponds with your console nationality.
Uncharted (US, EU) on a JP PS3 results in a censored version.

Really? Oh... OK - I had thought GTA was. I'm probably wrong!

Anyway - I can't imagine Raiden IV would face much regional censorship.

doctorx0079 · Post by **doctorx0079** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:35 pm

spadgy wrote:Not every PS3 game is region free.

Raiden IV is absolutely amazing. The more people playing it and submitting scores and such the better, so I really hope for a port sometime soon. Feels unlikely though...

UFO wanted to do it but, no announcement yet.

EDIT: Their website does mention some "secret project" . .

Post by **spadgy** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:32 pm

doctorx0079 wrote: UFO wanted to do it but, no announcement yet.

EDIT: Their website does mention some "secret project" . .

Really!

Awesome news!

doctorx0079 · Post by **doctorx0079** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:20 pm

spadgy wrote:
doctorx0079 wrote: UFO wanted to do it but, no announcement yet.

EDIT: Their website does mention some "secret project" . .
Really!

Awesome news!

Link: http://www.ufointeractivegames.com/platform.asp?p=cs

They have already talked about R IV so it could be related.

E. Randy Dupre · Post by **E. Randy Dupre** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:16 pm

Necronom wrote:Uncharted (US, EU) on a JP PS3 results in a censored version.

Just read that this isn't the case any longer. Apparently, the recent(ish) trophy patch changed things so that Uncharted plays in the correct manner for the region of the disc, rather than the region of the console - so playing the US or EU version on a JP console now gives you the blood and stuff that was cut from the JP game. Not tried it out yet, but I might give it a go tonight and see whether that's true or not.

No idea if that means it's the same for all titles, but I doubt they'd only alter things for the one game.

Malc74 · Post by **Malc74** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:15 pm

doctorx0079 wrote:
spadgy wrote:
doctorx0079 wrote: UFO wanted to do it but, no announcement yet.

EDIT: Their website does mention some "secret project" . .
Really!

Awesome news!
Link: http://www.ufointeractivegames.com/platform.asp?p=cs

They have already talked about R IV so it could be related.

IGN also have R IV listed with a North American release date (Via UFO Interactive for Sep. 30th 2009) but whether that's insider knowledge or a total shot in the dark is anybody's guess.

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:15 am

I see that UFO Interactive only releases Wii, DS & PS-2 games. So if they do finally release Raiden IV, would it be more likely to be on one of those systems, or maybe their 1st on the PC?

I prefer a PC port over a PS-2. Graphics would be better, not to mention the price...

Post by **spadgy** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:24 pm

Malc74 wrote: IGN also have R IV listed with a North American release date (Via UFO Interactive for Sep. 30th 2009) but whether that's insider knowledge or a total shot in the dark is anybody's guess.

Could well be - the publication I work at often gets news stories we have to keep to ourselves for a bit, and some websites occasionally make information live on what are considered smaller games, often accidently...

neist · Post by **neist** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:47 pm

spadgy wrote:
Malc74 wrote: IGN also have R IV listed with a North American release date (Via UFO Interactive for Sep. 30th 2009) but whether that's insider knowledge or a total shot in the dark is anybody's guess.
Could well be - the publication I work at often gets news stories we have to keep to ourselves for a bit, and some websites occasionally make information live on what are considered smaller games, often accidently...

I'm a hound when it comes to digging up obscure games, and from my experience, IGN tends to be more right than wrong in such instances.

If it ends up being not true, it's most likely because it was canned, not because it never existed. I've found out about a lot DS titles this way. Things hit their database before any announcement many times.

PepsimanVsJoe · Post by **PepsimanVsJoe** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:52 pm

ST Dragon wrote:I see that UFO Interactive only releases Wii, DS & PS-2 games. So if they do finally release Raiden IV, would it be more likely to be on one of those systems, or maybe their 1st on the PC?

Extremely doubtful.

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:51 pm

So a PS-2 port, just as good!

Gespenst · Post by **Gespenst** » Sat May 30, 2009 12:14 pm

MathU wrote:They really outta make a PC port eventually. Especially considering how little work it would take.

If CyberFront going to port it to PC. I hope so.

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Sat May 30, 2009 7:10 pm

If UFO Interactive does release Raiden IV for the PS-2, would its specs be enough for an arcade perfect port, or would it be degraded compared to the X-Box360 & Arcade version? Raiden III looked quite good compared to the superior PC port. (Never played the arcade version)

By the way, how much is Raiden IV improved over Raiden III in the visual/audio department and is the Raiden IV arcade board any better compared to the one used for Raiden III?

WarBovine · Post by **WarBovine** » Sat May 30, 2009 8:51 pm

I'm not sure why you keep getting your hopes up for a PS2 port, because it's not happening. UFO's page already lists the Xbox 360 as the only system. And if you're not feeling bad enough already, they're likely going to region lock it to NTSC-U, because this is a fairly textbook case of why region-locking exists. Not to mention, I doubt UFO has the people necessary to port a game to a different system.

So, all in all, if you don't feel like importing an Xbox, your best bet is to pray that the original Japanese developer decides to contract out to make a PC version. If there was a PS2 port, it would be them, not UFO.

No_not_like_Quake · Post by **No_not_like_Quake** » Sat May 30, 2009 11:53 pm

Why would there be a PS2 port of this game at this point?

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Sun May 31, 2009 8:02 pm

Buying a US/JPN 360 just for one game...?!
It’s more likely there will be a region mod for the Xbox360. Only then I might consider getting a PAL 360 and modding it my self.

This is probably the 1st time I remember a console that no one has managed to by pass the region lock via Boot discs, boot cartridges, mod chips, etc, after all this long.
I’m surprised that it can be modded to play pirate copies so easily instead.