Madworld

DBH87 · Post by **DBH87** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:37 pm

looks a bit insane seen as though im a massive fan of killer 7 and no more heroes im gonna get this.

anyone else tried it yet

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:42 pm

oooh look the wii got an 'adult' game

i'm just bitter that a console i own did not get it. Nice to see sega doing some intresting things. Between this and bayonetta im kinda alomost excited.

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:58 pm

i started playing it recently and like it so far.
can't really comment on the game yet, though.

kengou · Post by **kengou** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:15 pm

Lordstar wrote:oooh look the wii got an 'adult' game

Too bad nothing about Madworld is "adult". It has lots of blood and swearing, which means it's more likely to appeal to teens. I actually found it really juvenile, and I'm 20!

I rented this. It's not bad, but got old after a couple hours.

robthebanks · Post by **robthebanks** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:47 pm

Looks good. I've never played Killer 7, is it worth checking out? Is it just a stylish rail shooter?

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:50 pm

yeah thats what i mean by 'adult' the points around it were to kinda point out that I was being scarstic. . . Im sure you saw this but im not fucking reading it right. its been a long week some one give me a shout when the days over

UnscathedFlyingObject · Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:58 pm

nah, some people just need their sarcasm-o-meter checked.

DBH87 · Post by **DBH87** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:20 pm

Lordstar wrote:oooh look the wii got an 'adult' game

i'm just bitter that a console i own did not get it. Nice to see sega doing some intresting things. Between this and bayonetta im kinda alomost excited.

the wii also has house of the dead overkill and no more heroes which are more adult orientated and piss funny imo.

kengou · Post by **kengou** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:09 pm

robthebanks wrote:Looks good. I've never played Killer 7, is it worth checking out? Is it just a stylish rail shooter?

You probably weren't addressing me but I have to say I couldn't stand it. Yes it was stylish but the gameplay was awful. I played a burned copy to try it out and after 30 minutes threw the disc out.

No More Heroes, however, was awesome.

DBH87 · Post by **DBH87** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:57 pm

kengou wrote:
robthebanks wrote:Looks good. I've never played Killer 7, is it worth checking out? Is it just a stylish rail shooter?
You probably weren't addressing me but I have to say I couldn't stand it. Yes it was stylish but the gameplay was awful. I played a burned copy to try it out and after 30 minutes threw the disc out.

No More Heroes, however, was awesome.

Awful gameplay I dont think so, No more heroes got repetitive very quickly so thats the worse of the two. Killer 7 felt fresh everytime you started a new level.

Daigohji · Post by **Daigohji** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:06 pm

kengou wrote:
robthebanks wrote:Looks good. I've never played Killer 7, is it worth checking out? Is it just a stylish rail shooter?
You probably weren't addressing me but I have to say I couldn't stand it. Yes it was stylish but the gameplay was awful. I played a burned copy to try it out and after 30 minutes threw the disc out.

No More Heroes, however, was awesome.

Killer7 is one of my favourite games of the last generation and the most politically subversive game ever made. Despite having mechanics based on a mix of rail shooter and third person action adventure, the game is set in a world that operates under such a unique and bizarre set of rules that it takes a couple of hours to get a feel for it. Unlike most rail shooters there is a different tactic required for defeating each of the enemy types, so it doesn't get stale. If you're in a mindset like Kengou and discard games quickly, you won't like it. But if you stick with it to the end I guarantee it will be an experience you won't forget.

DBH87 · Post by **DBH87** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:21 pm

Daigohji wrote:
kengou wrote:
robthebanks wrote:Looks good. I've never played Killer 7, is it worth checking out? Is it just a stylish rail shooter?
You probably weren't addressing me but I have to say I couldn't stand it. Yes it was stylish but the gameplay was awful. I played a burned copy to try it out and after 30 minutes threw the disc out.

No More Heroes, however, was awesome.
Killer7 is one of my favourite games of the last generation and the most politically subversive game ever made. Despite having mechanics based on a mix of rail shooter and third person action adventure, the game is set in a world that operates under such a unique and bizarre set of rules that it takes a couple of hours to get a feel for it. Unlike most rail shooters there is a different tactic required for defeating each of the enemy types, so it doesn't get stale. If you're in a mindset like Kengou and discard games quickly, you won't like it. But if you stick with it to the end I guarantee it will be an experience you won't forget.

exactly, probably the weirdest and original fresh game ive ever played.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:30 pm

Daigohji wrote:the most politically subversive game ever made.

That would be great if it wasn't bullshit!

Yeah, I liked the game, but it's as far removed from reality as I've ever seen a game get while pretending to be serving up edgy truths.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:29 pm

that can be said with anything that makes you read between the lines though..

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:35 pm

Nah, it's just a Japanese thing. The whole "America is going to nuke us for no reason!" thing for instance. When it comes to war and memory I tend to take their stuff with a grain of salt. For example, there's Murakami Takashi, the guy behind the Superflat movement, claiming that Japan is a highly childlike culture and America forced it to be that way on purpose (instead of, y'know, the whole deep-brain appeal of moe images). Basically, a bunch of talk and talk.

GrimoreLibrarian · Post by **GrimoreLibrarian** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:14 pm

Lordstar wrote:oooh look the wii got an 'adult' game

i'm just bitter that a console i own did not get it. Nice to see sega doing some intresting things. Between this and bayonetta im kinda alomost excited.

Sega? I thought Platinum games made MadWorld and is making Bayonetta.

Gungriffon Geona · Post by **Gungriffon Geona** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:59 pm

GrimoreLibrarian wrote: Sega? I thought ex Clover employees made MadWorld and are making Bayonetta.

fixed.

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:35 am

Ed Oscuro wrote:When it comes to war and memory I tend to take their stuff with a grain of salt. For example, there's Murakami Takashi, the guy behind the Superflat movement, claiming that Japan is a highly childlike culture and America forced it to be that way on purpose (instead of, y'know, the whole deep-brain appeal of moe images). Basically, a bunch of talk and talk.

Although for some obscuro reason the guy seems to hate me, I have to say that he sometimes speaks absolute truisms, and this is one of those times.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:52 am

Lies! I don't hate you.

Sometimes the best love is the tough kind.

SKYKID, I CAIN'T QUIT YEW :O ;D

GrimoreLibrarian · Post by **GrimoreLibrarian** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:55 am

Gungriffon Geona wrote:
GrimoreLibrarian wrote: Sega? I thought ex Clover employees made MadWorld and are making Bayonetta.
fixed.

same thing.

Gungriffon Geona · Post by **Gungriffon Geona** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:17 am

GrimoreLibrarian wrote:
Gungriffon Geona wrote:
GrimoreLibrarian wrote: Sega? I thought ex Clover employees made MadWorld and are making Bayonetta.
fixed.
same thing.

It's easier to say 'those folks who made all those really awesome games before capcom killed the team' instead of 'that company no one's heard of but apparently they got cool shit going'.
For clarity's sake, since not everyone's gonna know the story behind that.

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:26 am

Ed Oscuro wrote: SKYKID, I CAIN'T QUIT YEW :O ;D

Lol

FIL · Post by **FIL** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:55 pm

The God Hand comparison is an obvious one but is it actually anything like it?

DBH87 · Post by **DBH87** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:19 pm

FIL wrote:The God Hand comparison is an obvious one but is it actually anything like it?

God hand is so fucking awesome

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:54 pm

First, it should be pointed out that MadWorld has NOTHING to do with Killer 7 or No More Heroes. Perhaps its the Wii connection, I dunno...

Anyway, yes, the place to start making comparisons is God Hand, but unfortunately, this is not God Hand 2--in fact, it is a very different game that just happens to have inherited a few aspects of God Hand. I've only played about an hour, so if it turns out that the game becomes quite deep and sophisticated, I'll let you know.

What I am enjoying is a very flexible game engine that lets you work out lots of interesting ways to kill baddies, but your favorite kill-combo may not be the highest scoring combo. Instead, you'll find yourself digging around for that signpost to jam through someone's skull AFTER you've put a garbage can over their head or what-not. Like God Hand (and resident evil 4) a prompt will show up when you can execute a context-specific attack; but unique to MadWorld, 'Murder' is a regular option (sort of surprising.)

This is one of the few games where I find myself separating gameplay from the game itself, because I really do like the game engine (though the camera sucks for no good reason), but so far I can't say the game is doing that much for me. Looking forward to giving it more time.

dial911 · Post by **dial911** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:46 pm

Game is good - get it.

spineshark · Post by **spineshark** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:29 pm

kengou wrote:Too bad nothing about Madworld is "adult". It has lots of blood and swearing, which means it's more likely to appeal to teens. I actually found it really juvenile, and I'm 20!

I rented this. It's not bad, but got old after a couple hours.

I'm also 20, and I find it hilarious. Sure, it's not really "mature," but the ridiculous violence and vulgarity is more about humor than shock value.

FIL wrote:The God Hand comparison is an obvious one but is it actually anything like it?

They both use violence as a means to hilarity, but the actual play is very different. God Hand is more of a technical game with a heavy emphasis on your character's basic moves (punching and dodging). MadWorld is more about context; you can saw everyone in half with the chainsaw, but you don't get points for it, and you need points to get to the boss and finish the stage (there's a time limit for each level). So you look around and find things to stab and stomp people with and you use them. Like, in the first level, you can ram a trash can over a guy's head, then impale him with he poles from 5 road signs, then finish him off by ramming him into a "rose bush," basically a wall of spikes, over and over. If it sounds sick, it is. But it's also completely hilarious.

Also, the soundtrack in this game fucking rules. I really can't encourage people strongly enough to buy this game; despite being Japanese-made, it's not coming out there, so for once the western sales will actually make a difference.

FIL · Post by **FIL** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:57 pm

So, I heard the PAL Madworld doesn't support 60hz, is this true?

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:34 pm

FIL wrote:So, I heard the PAL Madworld doesn't support 60hz, is this true?

oh dear lord that would be hilarious

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:42 pm

CMoon wrote:First, it should be pointed out that MadWorld has NOTHING to do with Killer 7 or No More Heroes. Perhaps its the Wii connection, I dunno...

Thanks for clearing this up (a few days ago, I read it then but just had another thought about it).

I think it's the Capcom connection: Clover did God Hand, and Grasshopper Manufacture did Killer7 / No More Heroes. Both were outside developers after all.