Sought After DVDs: what are they?

KindGrind · Post by **KindGrind** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:19 am

I've been buying DVDs a lot in the past (last time I checked I had close to 500), and it seems many OOP titles are worth come crazy money. I know of a few of them, but it's quite hard to keep track. I'm talking region 1 releases. The prices mentioned are based on what I saw recently. Which ones do you know are for a fact OOP and worth something?

Some I know...

2 Short Films About Glenn Gould -» 100-150$
1984 -» 50$
Beauty and the Beast (platinum hits, 2 discs) -»50-80$
Sleuth (1972) -»50-70$

Many criterions, these are worth 40-100$+:
The Killer
Sid and Nancy
Hitchcock Box: Spellbound, Notorious, Rebecca, the 39 Steps
Tokyo Olympiad
This is Spinal Tap
Blood for Dracula

Very short list. What are some good movies on DVD that have gone OOP and shot up in value?

FRO · Post by **FRO** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:34 am

I'm after the Spinal Tap Criterion DVD.

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:16 am

for criterion add both john woo films: the killer and hard boiled ($100+ for legitimate copies, bootlegs would sell for $40). also, the original criterion printing of seven samurai (with the restoration extra, $300 easy) and Salo. they just did a re-release of Salo, so i'm guessing the market will drop for it but the original used to hit $500.

henry dark · Post by **henry dark** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:28 am

brokenhalo wrote: Salo. they just did a re-release of Salo, so i'm guessing the market will drop for it but the original used to hit $500.

No way jose. I have a copy of that. If I'd known I would have sold it earlier

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:30 am

I think there's a DVD of a forum member banging his wife in the ass. It's probably worth a good $50 or so.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:31 am

At one point Weird Science & Sixteen Candles were both out of print and sought after. I *think* they were reprinted. Too lazy to check Amazon.

maxlords · Post by **maxlords** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:44 am

The Robocop unrated Criterion was hitting $50+ for a while.

There was a multi-disc version of Brazil that was insanely expensive at one time too....I think it had a whole second cut of the entire movie. Pretty sure it's insanely low print run though.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:26 am

Salo can be had in the UK on blu ray for £12 or so. Its locked to region B though and in 1080p.

I used to have about 10 or so Criterions. Most of the ones I watched were crap quality. Namely the woo movies, The rock.. I thought Silence of the lambs was good and robocop had the extra minute or so of ridiculous carnage and blood spilling.

Hard boiled is available on blu ray on the stranglehold game (PS3 only). The Rock is available on blu ray already and blows the DVD out of the water. Robocop has a crappy blu ray release and in most USA shops sells for $10.

And since the quality of DVD is nigh on par with AVI's that you can download for free, I see no point in shelling shit loads of cash just to have a case on a shelf.

So my motto is.. Buy a blu ray player with that $500 Salo and replace all your DVD's with better versions. I'm off to buy Salo right now for £12 or so.. Cheers then.

Koa Zo · Post by **Koa Zo** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:50 am

Happiness of the Katakuris is pretty hard to come by.
I think I paid ~$20, but other sources were listing it for $40-60 iirc.

ED-057 · Post by **ED-057** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:56 am

Ai wo Kudasai TV series DVDs are OOP. And sought after (by me)...

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:41 am

Those prices are stupid of course; studios can effortlessly reprint those DvDs at any time, or create improved versions (and usually will).

After all you are not paying a lot of money and get an original print of the movie on celluloid which was shown in a cinema- the DvD is just a digitized representation.

A rare DvD of a movie is not like a rare old video game (or pcb). "First print" really has no meaning in regard to DvDs; after all those DvDs are not the original movie reels anyway.

RGC · Post by **RGC** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:01 am

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:05 am

Fantasia DVD is hella expensive all versions just about everywhere.

but in a few years we should be due a reprint

good old disney

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:13 pm

PS.

To me, "rare DvD" has about the same ring as "rare mp3".

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:25 pm

well your wrong to think that its like anything which has a print. Some only get short runs demmand.

LOL rare mp3
its like seeing videos on youtube with some one naming it rare footage

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:30 pm

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 351#440351

A "rare" DvD is like taking a digital photo of the Mona Lisa, and then making only 5 prints of it.

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:19 pm

Well next time i go to buy RSG or panzer dragoon saga or some I will be sure to tell the seller this.

brokenhalo · Post by **brokenhalo** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:40 pm

actually, these out of print dvd's couldn't be reproduced for one simple reason: the releasing company lost the distribution rights. for some odd reason, criterion would put out some fairly stunning editions of movies (which included pristine transfers, original commentary tracks, essays, making-ofs and assorted other extras) and would lose the distribution rights sometimes months after release. other companies would later get the rights to some of these movies, but they wouldn't do nearly as good of a job (the fox lorber editions of hard boiled/the killer springs to mind). that's why the value of the superior OOP release would rise.

Domino · Post by **Domino** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:45 pm

At least the market for Criterion LDs went down hill so many of them are pretty damn cheap. Just picked up Blade Runner Special Edition, Hard Boiled, and The Producers for $24 shipped.

KindGrind · Post by **KindGrind** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:00 am

brokenhalo wrote:actually, these out of print dvd's couldn't be reproduced for one simple reason: the releasing company lost the distribution rights. for some odd reason, criterion would put out some fairly stunning editions of movies (which included pristine transfers, original commentary tracks, essays, making-ofs and assorted other extras) and would lose the distribution rights sometimes months after release. other companies would later get the rights to some of these movies, but they wouldn't do nearly as good of a job (the fox lorber editions of hard boiled/the killer springs to mind). that's why the value of the superior OOP release would rise.

That. MGM is responsible for a lot of these lousy reeditions.

Marshall banana · Post by **Marshall banana** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:24 am

I think all Disney DVDs that are "put into The Vault" become very expensive.

Last time I checked, the Platinum Edition DVD of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs also costs around $50, but Disney is releasing it again this year, I think!

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:52 am

does this count?

Back on topic, good news on the Criterion collection DVDs - those tended to be expensive throughout their life, from first print to secondhand market. Although at this point we'll be looking at Blu-Ray, which is starting to seem like a waste compared to fully digital (downloadable content).

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:58 am

i seek zombie movies....

and classic horror in general

but i end up having to download a lot of the stuff because it was only ever released on VHS and small runs 20-30 years ago.....

what were we talking about?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:06 am

Those prices are stupid of course; studios can effortlessly reprint those DvDs at any time, or create improved versions (and usually will).

Radiant Silvergun, comics, etc.

I'll give you $8 inc. postage.

Trust me -- you don't want it.

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:12 am

Marshall banana wrote:I think all Disney DVDs that are "put into The Vault" become very expensive.

Last time I checked, the Platinum Edition DVD of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs also costs around $50, but Disney is releasing it again this year, I think!

it all comes around eventually
Still . . . . I want my fantasia and fantasia 2000!!!

kozo · Post by **kozo** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:04 pm

I just know that Criterions tend to be a bit more pricey from the moment they are pressed. I think they are a bit expensive but worth the cost for the good transfer and essays/features they include. Criterion's lineup has introduced me to Le Samouraï (my favorite movie!!), Charade, and Seven Samurai. All very nice movies... Now I am hooked on 60's film.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:17 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:
Those prices are stupid of course; studios can effortlessly reprint those DvDs at any time, or create improved versions (and usually will).
Radiant Silvergun, comics, etc.

I think you didn't understand what I wrote. Those DvDs aren't the "real thing". The real thing would be original movie reels used in cinemas (of course collecting them isn't ideal either, since they noticably degrade with time). If you buy a rare old Famicom game, then you get the real thing, the game as it was programmed and intended to look, 100% so; not just a digital representation. Added bonus: In most cases it's safe to assume that there won't be any more copies once that generation of consoles has ended. Nintendo may decide to sell the emulated ROM for a new game system, but they won't produce additional cartridges.
A DvD (or Blu Ray and whatever comes next) is just an approximation of what a movie looked like on the silver screen, and while a specific edition of DVD may go out of print, the studio that owns the rights to the movie can and will re-release it again and again, as long as there is demand, and quite possibly make it look and sound better each time new media formats become available.

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:40 pm

original movie reels

do you actually collect movie reels or are you just saying that to try and some how make your point of view more valid than anyone else? DVDs are sought after not becuase they were here first or that there the first editions, usually its all down to the the content and how good the picture and added extras. It just so happens that the first release can be the better version. As for the disney stuff they do it with all there moves. There cunts for doing it but they do. I was suprised my little sister managed to find me an alice in wonderland a while back but she did, uit was new too. they dont do it with the pixar stuff though :-/

thegreathopper · Post by **thegreathopper** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:31 pm

I have 400 blows and silence of the lambs among others on Criterion, do these still have any value?

A few years ago these were sought after.

Is ebay the best place to get rid of these? too many disks and not enough room..

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:47 pm

The Criterion Collection version of Videodrome is worth taking a look at compared to the regular DVD release of the same name. Comes chock full of extras on a two DVD set. It even has a behind-the-scenes retrospective about filming the so-called "exploding TV set finale" with guts and blood going everywhere. It had to be had shot twice. If the second take didn't pan out, Cronenburg was going to axe it. The original ending was suppose to have the TV set rise out of a bathtub senario but that ending up been more expensive than budgeting allowed...so that intial idea was killed off rather quickly. This was during the early 1980's era where all the special EFX was done by hand and in real-time: real-time puppetry infused with Cronenberg's usual tradmarked visual aestethics. ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~