Got some Christmas Money now i cant decide, PSPvsDS

[mr_m0nks]

ok so im looking to get a current gen hand held with a bit of cash i got this crimbo and need a little advice. as far as current games its 50/50 between the two but...

ive read a few things about emulators for the PSP, what systems can it emulate and how easy is it to set up/use?

can the DS emulate at all?

any advice or links would be great


thanks


oh and i hope everyone had a very Merry Shmuppy Christmas


reckon reindeers are any good a chaining?

[UnscathedFlyingObject]

If you want emus, the PSP is the way to go. It runs NES, Genesis, GB, GBC, PCE, CPS, and CPS2 almost perfect. MAME, SNES and GBA are hit or miss depending on the game. It can also run a number of other systems, but I haven't tried. DS is very limited when it comes to emus. It can run NES and probably some other 8 bit systems well.

To put emus on your PSP you need to hack it first with a Pandora battery and some software. Google Pandora battery for more details. I don't know if PSP 3000 are hackable yet. For DS, you need a R4 or similar device to run emus. They're not too hard to hack, but it takes some research.

Emus on the go are nice, but I usually just play emulators on my PC. I have my DS and PSP for their own games, in which case, the DS has the most quality software. The PSP has top quality software too and definitely worth it.

[boagman]

Owning both, I use the PSP far, far more often. I like the games it offers more, for the most part. It's my portable of choice between the two, but there are some games that I still want to get for the DS like Bangai-O, Contra 4, etc.

Still, the PSP gets my recommendation, especially for your stated purposes.

[iatneH]

Try to get a PSP-2000, or wait a while until there is a way to hack the PSP-3000, as I think that model allows output to SDTV for games..?

[Turrican]

There's an hidden quality to DS emulation. It emulates SMS perfectly. And I mean pixel perfect, since a DS screen has the exact resolution of SMS. This means that, unlike any other emulator out there (say, on PSP) you get full screen action without cropping, filtering or upscaling. In short, it's the definitive portable SMS player.

Besides that, I wouldn't call emulation on DS limited. NesDS has a great compatibility and a very slick interface. Lameboy handles your GB SGB and GBC needs just fine. ScummVM gets the job done and has the stylus. In short if you focus on 8bits, DS is a pretty solid system for emulation. Also, just drag your files into the R4 cartridge and you're set - it's so user-friendly.

Genesis can be done too (a little tricky) while SNES and anything above that are off-limits.

Honestly if emulation is your only concern you could have a look at GP2X and the other opensource portables out there. But I really think native software should be the one to look at before deciding.

[Elixir]

Neither, get something else.

[professor ganson]

The DS is the best handheld gaming console ever imo, so I would suggest getting that.

[neist]

The DS is the best handheld gaming console ever imo, so I would suggest getting that.

What he said.

I mean, outside of hacking it or emulation, the releases on PSP are really starting to dry up. I could spend a lifetime playing interesting DS releases, but I can't say that about my PSP.

[CMoon]

Another nod for the DS. I don't really like handheld gaming much anyway, but the DS has earned its way up there as a great console. That said however, it is obviously what kind of games you are looking for. It seems there are good titles for both.

[Triple Lei]

When your DS Lite's hinge breaks, you're going to wish you got a PSP instead!

And as for games, I'm going to have my hands full with Prinny, Loco Roco 2, DJ Max Fever, and then I'm going to go back and get some of the older "must-play" PSP games. And then there's the PlayStation Store...

[Lordstar]

the back catalog alone would make me say DS lite since you can have GBA games too. I just cant warrent the price of a new PSP when there is fuck all to play on it compared to the DS. Both have there merits though ever though about getting a GPX if you want to run roms?

[boagman]

I mean, outside of hacking it or emulation, the releases on PSP are really starting to dry up.

This, at least to some degree, is true. I'll admit that. On the horizon for the PSP there isn't a whole lot which really gets my eyebrow to rise. Granted, I don't know everything coming down the pipeline, but I don't see any Ultimate Ghosts n' Goblins, or Every Extend Extra, Metal Gear Solid Portable, or other truly epic title to really look forward to.

*But*, I can pretty much say the same thing about the DS, too. I can't think of anything on its horizon that makes me froth at the mouth chomping at the bit. Bangai-O Spirits is already out, as is Metal Slug 7, and Contra 4, and Warioware Touched has already come and gone.

I think it really does come down to emulation and homebrew, and in these categories, I have to say that PSP wins by a mile.

[Elixir]

When your DS Lite's hinge breaks, you're going to wish you got a PSP instead!

And as for games, I'm going to have my hands full with Prinny, Loco Roco 2, DJ Max Fever, and then I'm going to go back and get some of the older "must-play" PSP games. And then there's the PlayStation Store...

PSP fanboy alert.

[UnscathedFlyingObject]

When your DS Lite's hinge breaks, you're going to wish you got a PSP instead!

And as for games, I'm going to have my hands full with Prinny, Loco Roco 2, DJ Max Fever, and then I'm going to go back and get some of the older "must-play" PSP games. And then there's the PlayStation Store...

LOL. My old DS lite had a broken hinge, and towards the end of its life, it would reset if you pressed the face buttons. I take very good care of my consoles and my old DS lite was my first system ever to die like that. Older Nintendo portables were definitely better. I dropped and abused my old black and white GB a lot and it stayed alive for years. My DS lite lasted for a year and a half.

I'm ready to call the DS lite a piece of crap if my new one dies before my PSP. My PSP gets as much usage as my DS lite.

I mean, outside of hacking it or emulation, the releases on PSP are really starting to dry up.

Granted, I don't know everything coming down the pipeline, but I don't see any Ultimate Ghosts n' Goblins, or Every Extend Extra, Metal Gear Solid Portable, or other truly epic title to really look forward to.

Prinny is coming out and it gets every bit as hard as a Ghoul and Goblins game. There's also Dissidia Final Fantasy (not really interested), a couple of Level 5 games (forgot the names), Patapon 2 and a new Parasite Eve. The line up isn't that bad.

[boagman]

I just cant warrent the price of a new PSP when there is fuck all to play on it compared to the DS.

Wow. Incorrectly overgeneralize much?

I mean, okay, in terms of sheer number of titles, yeah, the DS is going to dominate, but how freaking many of said titles include some form of an animal with some sort of training involved, cutified for 5-year-old taste? I mean, really: do you *honestly* want to defend the DS on the basis of tripe such as "Horsez"? And no, that's not a typo on my part.

PSP has a bunch of high quality games on it that have more than justified the money I've put into the system and the games themselves. I've got no axe to grind with the DS, and I've enjoyed it, too, but this statement is just so darned open-endedly silly I just couldn't let it pass without comment.

[Stormwatch]

[UnscathedFlyingObject]

it's not even out yet, dude.

[iatneH]

Sony VGN-UX280P

Plug in a Xbox360 controller and you're golden. They're also cheaper on eBay and on the micropctalk forum.

[Jockel]

I own both, DS wins by far.

[subcons]

Emulation: PSP

Actual games released on the system: DS

Pretty easy decision. Just depends what you're more interested in playing on the go. I wouldn't even consider getting a PSP unless you plan on putting a CFW on it. Simply not worth it.

[Herr Schatten]

I own both, DS wins by far.

[Skykid]

Ketsui Death Label and Bangai-O are two very good reasons to go for a DS atm.

[evil_ash_xero]

Oh, a DS. I have a PSP and have like 3 games on it.

As far as emulation on these, I don't know anything about it.

But if you get a DS, make sure it's not one of those new ones, so you ccan still play all the cool stuff from the GBA.

DS has lots of games, and with the GBA it has even more cool games.

s/m

[neist]

I mean, outside of hacking it or emulation, the releases on PSP are really starting to dry up.

This, at least to some degree, is true. I'll admit that. On the horizon for the PSP there isn't a whole lot which really gets my eyebrow to rise. Granted, I don't know everything coming down the pipeline, but I don't see any Ultimate Ghosts n' Goblins, or Every Extend Extra, Metal Gear Solid Portable, or other truly epic title to really look forward to.

*But*, I can pretty much say the same thing about the DS, too. I can't think of anything on its horizon that makes me froth at the mouth chomping at the bit. Bangai-O Spirits is already out, as is Metal Slug 7, and Contra 4, and Warioware Touched has already come and gone.

I think it really does come down to emulation and homebrew, and in these categories, I have to say that PSP wins by a mile.

Well, for the PSP I am looking forward to DJ Max Fever, Dissidia Final Fantasy, Gish, Loco Roco 2, Patapon 2, and Samurai Shodown Anthology. All those games seem to be looking really good, but I wouldn't say they are world changing or anything.

In comparison, the DS has Big Bang Mini, Elebits: The Adventures of Kai and Zero, Retro Game Challenge, Gauntlet, Boing! Docomodake DS, Henry Hatsworth in the Puzzling Adventure, Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume, Rhythm Heaven, and Scribblenauts. And Scribblenauts may be one of the coolest concepts I've ever heard in a game ever.

The question to me isn't whether the PSP will have quality games in as much as I'm looking forward to DS titles considerably more.

As per the hinge cracking issue. I have no clue. I've probably put thousands of hours into my DS and I've yet to have the problem. It seems to be pretty hit or miss. Chances are if you buy a DS nowadays the plastic is probably of a hardier stock.

[indstr]

PSP for real yo. I've had mine for 3 1/2 years and I still play it every day. There are several important emulators people have not yet mentioned: Playstation (yes, it's fullspeed), Sega CD, MSX, Neo Geo. Also there's decent ports of Dosbox, Amiga emulators, and a bunch of other old computers.
Also, the GBA emulation is almost perfect. There are only 2 games that I know of that don't work on it: Sabrewulf and the Secret of Mana game. Everything else I have thrown at it, it works beautifully fullspeed. Even the 3d mode7 games which you can't say the same about the SNES emulator.

Plus, the screen is bigger/more beautiful, and the system won't give your hands cramps to play it.

Good retail games I recommend as well: Gripshift (it's kinda like Trackmania), Mega Man Powered up, N+, Frantix, World Rally Championship.

I'm sure the DS has some good games as well, I'd like to get one eventually. But from a pure emulation standpoint PSP is by far the way to go.

Also don't get a PSP-3000. They are definitely not hacked yet, plus a lot of people have complained of weird interlacing issues with the screen which is pretty messed up since it's an LCD.

[indstr]

Gish

Holy crap Gish is supposed to be coming out on PSP??? Badass!!!!

[CMoon]

And for the RPG fans, don't forget all the Dragon Quest titles coming out on it, including Dragon Quest 9, that and there's a SMT title in progress (Devil survivor). Honestly at this point, the DS is kind of an aging console and it seems to be doing quite well.

[neist]

Gish

Holy crap Gish is supposed to be coming out on PSP??? Badass!!!!

Quote from the link below.

NOTE: This PSP version has not been officially announced by the developer or publisher, and while it has been listed at retail, it has not been confirmed as a project in development. Please check back for official info.

http://psp.gamespy.com/playstation-portable/gish/

Could or could not be, but when things pop up randomly at a dozen different sites, it tends to be true. If it doesn't happen, it's usually because the title was canceled, not because it never existed. I like to stay hopeful.

[Specineff]

I play all my GBA and GBC games on my PSP. That alone seals the deal for me.

[Vexorg]

Given the choice between the two, I'm pretty sure I'd side with the DS. I haven't bothered to attempt to set up my PSP for homebrew yet, and I have found the number of worthwhile PSP releases to be severely lacking compared to the ones for DS (although, to be honest, there hasn't been much for DS lately either.) Mostly my PSP gets used almost exclusively for Disgaea these days, and hardly anything else.