Okay. I'm a shmup nut and a Metal Gear Solid nut. I've got the last-gen consoles (PS2, GC, DC, Xbox), and a shiny new unplayed (as of yet) copy of DOJ sitting on my desk, with a Swap Magic and ESPgaluda soon to follow. I have and love a version or two of every MGS gameto date, except 4.
I also have a ton of other shmups, though they're mostly the US-released blither; standouts include Gradius V, Ikaruga (GC), Gunbird 2, Under Defeat, and a copy of Zero Gunner 2 I have a feeling someone stole (can't find it). And Ketsui Death Label (mofo still hasn't come yet; HATE play-asia standard shipping >.>). Also love Chaos Field to death. I can't quite think of anything else good that I have besides borderliners and S/RPGs, still haven't beaten Circle of the Moon, etc....
Now, my dilemma is this: I plan on getting a PS3 or a 360 in the future (though it's unclear when I'll make this purchase); the PS3 mainly for MGS4 and Ratchet and Clank, or the 360 mainly for DOJBLEX and whatever the fuck else gets gets ported to it (and, of course, the obligatory Ikaruga, THE, and Senko no Ronde buys).
Another problem: I'm a poor student who has yet to buy a car (mooching my parents') and who starts community college next year (heavy debt frightens me), so I'll be able to get cash for this stuff, but I don't expect either COA's execution until around summer (though I'm getting frightfully impatient about MGS4, and none of my friends have it or a PS3 =( ), and the X360 localizations can't be expected until at least then, if not longer.
So, I can't decide whether to get a PS3 and my good ol' vices (and then probably copies of the Cave localizations when they come out, even with no 360, and some of my friends have 360s besides), or a 360 and the Cave shit.
Any education or suggestions or personally opinionated influence? Any input's greatly appreciated; this is fuckin' killing me. And please tell me if I'm not being clear about something or anything like that.
What to do...
I do own the 2 consoles, and play my x360 far more often. I did play MSGIV and R&C and enjoyed them quite a lot, but once they're over, well, they're over. The PS3's been pretty much my bluray dedicated machine so far. Gets the job done on that front. For games, I feel the 360's immensely superior both now and for the future.
Muchos años después, frente al pelotón de fusilamiento...
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Pixel_Outlaw
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I would advise that you make a list stating the pros and cons of each system. This will help you choose.
First however since you are in school as I am you need to set aside some money for necessities. Really take a look at living and school costs and plan for those first. I know this is a pain and I hate it but your education is more important than the next gen system here. If you have a regular job I would say try to put about half of your paycheck into savings and keep 4/5 for weekly spending and save about 1/10 for games and luxury. The new systems are very expensive.
Take a look at hidden costs:
Online memberships for online play
Costs of controllers
Costs of accessories for getting online such as mics and other things
COST OF GAMES 60 usd roughly
My point is try and separate your costs into strict percentages
School savings for next semester ( heavy percent)
Weekly living (medium percent)
Fun/Friends/Dating (light percent)
The best plan is to save your money and adhere to some sort of system
I only make around 150 dollars every two weeks working odd hours part time.
I usually try to put 100 dollars into savings and keep 50 for weekly living gas and fun. I will admit that I live with my parents so I can go to school here but I still have a plan for my money. Videogames are dead last. It has been a long time since I've bought a game for over 30 usd.
If you want games you should consider your local pawn shops they are often overlooked and you can get games for cheap. My local pawn shop sells ps3 games for about 20 dollars each.
Overall, put your biggest investment (education) first.
First however since you are in school as I am you need to set aside some money for necessities. Really take a look at living and school costs and plan for those first. I know this is a pain and I hate it but your education is more important than the next gen system here. If you have a regular job I would say try to put about half of your paycheck into savings and keep 4/5 for weekly spending and save about 1/10 for games and luxury. The new systems are very expensive.
Take a look at hidden costs:
Online memberships for online play
Costs of controllers
Costs of accessories for getting online such as mics and other things
COST OF GAMES 60 usd roughly
My point is try and separate your costs into strict percentages
School savings for next semester ( heavy percent)
Weekly living (medium percent)
Fun/Friends/Dating (light percent)
The best plan is to save your money and adhere to some sort of system
I only make around 150 dollars every two weeks working odd hours part time.
I usually try to put 100 dollars into savings and keep 50 for weekly living gas and fun. I will admit that I live with my parents so I can go to school here but I still have a plan for my money. Videogames are dead last. It has been a long time since I've bought a game for over 30 usd.
If you want games you should consider your local pawn shops they are often overlooked and you can get games for cheap. My local pawn shop sells ps3 games for about 20 dollars each.
Overall, put your biggest investment (education) first.
Some of the best shmups don't actually end in a vowel.
No, this game is not Space Invaders.
No, this game is not Space Invaders.
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3170665 ?
Opinion: sell every game you don't need to buy new ones. Then get a 360 if you can afford it since it has stuff.
Opinion: sell every game you don't need to buy new ones. Then get a 360 if you can afford it since it has stuff.
Ah, yes, the job thing. I work weekends, usually 10-15 hours, at 6.85. Have about 2 grand in the bank.
I think I'm just going to chill the fuck out about getting the new stuff. I think I just needed to make this thread to get it out of my system. I've got literally thousands of hours' worth of games yet to muddle through (I can be VERY bad with money if I know I'm out to buy good games from genres I like =P), and I just_don't_need anymore stuff that isn't going to be a mega-bitch to find later. Hell, chances are, one of my friends'll buy a PS3 and MGS4 when we go to school (me and two of my best friends are stickin' round here =P) and I'll just mooch off their asses (God knows they've mooched a helluva lotta games off me >.>). My one friend'll probably get his 360 fixed, and I'll probably start hanging out with him more when...stuff. Er, school starts next year. He's busier than me, and stuff >.> (point lost there...). DOJ and ESPgaluda are, as I understand, two of the best console shmups around, so I'll've ERRR gotta JUST SHUT UP NOW.
Thanks for putting it into perspective for me P.Outlaw =) I needed it. So you can make it with $100 per two weeks? For school, I mean? I plan on chillin' with my parents for the two years community college offers, so there's room and board, zing! If I get a nice little gas-not-guzzling car, I shouldn't have to put more than a bazillion, er 20 bucks a week...Ohwait. Yeah I will. So forget that =P Well, screw it, we'll DO IT LIVE when we get that far. Anyway, UWWC is 2700 a semester, so if I work a lot when I can and stop blowing money like candy, and with a bit of help from the parental units, I should be able to keep up pretty well with that. (Guilty Gear music is frickin' great, by the way; Still in the Dark just came on my phone as I punch away at this =).)
I got mentally sidetracked about a hundred times during that, so I'm probably going to come back to this pretty quick and spout about how big of an idiot I am for forgetting whatever thing =P
I think I'm just going to chill the fuck out about getting the new stuff. I think I just needed to make this thread to get it out of my system. I've got literally thousands of hours' worth of games yet to muddle through (I can be VERY bad with money if I know I'm out to buy good games from genres I like =P), and I just_don't_need anymore stuff that isn't going to be a mega-bitch to find later. Hell, chances are, one of my friends'll buy a PS3 and MGS4 when we go to school (me and two of my best friends are stickin' round here =P) and I'll just mooch off their asses (God knows they've mooched a helluva lotta games off me >.>). My one friend'll probably get his 360 fixed, and I'll probably start hanging out with him more when...stuff. Er, school starts next year. He's busier than me, and stuff >.> (point lost there...). DOJ and ESPgaluda are, as I understand, two of the best console shmups around, so I'll've ERRR gotta JUST SHUT UP NOW.
Thanks for putting it into perspective for me P.Outlaw =) I needed it. So you can make it with $100 per two weeks? For school, I mean? I plan on chillin' with my parents for the two years community college offers, so there's room and board, zing! If I get a nice little gas-not-guzzling car, I shouldn't have to put more than a bazillion, er 20 bucks a week...Ohwait. Yeah I will. So forget that =P Well, screw it, we'll DO IT LIVE when we get that far. Anyway, UWWC is 2700 a semester, so if I work a lot when I can and stop blowing money like candy, and with a bit of help from the parental units, I should be able to keep up pretty well with that. (Guilty Gear music is frickin' great, by the way; Still in the Dark just came on my phone as I punch away at this =).)
I got mentally sidetracked about a hundred times during that, so I'm probably going to come back to this pretty quick and spout about how big of an idiot I am for forgetting whatever thing =P
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Pixel_Outlaw
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To answer the question of doing my college homework.
I consider myself a giant turd. That being said I rely on pressure of put-off assignments to push me through. Now one of two things may happen with this style of homework tackling.
1. The pressure pushes me through with a nice plop.
2. The homework (pooping) has been put off too long and nothing gets done the situation becomes a hemorrhoid rupturing and I loose it all. The work is now messy and college is a pain in (or on) my ass.
I consider myself a giant turd. That being said I rely on pressure of put-off assignments to push me through. Now one of two things may happen with this style of homework tackling.
1. The pressure pushes me through with a nice plop.
2. The homework (pooping) has been put off too long and nothing gets done the situation becomes a hemorrhoid rupturing and I loose it all. The work is now messy and college is a pain in (or on) my ass.
Some of the best shmups don't actually end in a vowel.
No, this game is not Space Invaders.
No, this game is not Space Invaders.
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My suggestion: Sell old stuff you can live without (one could live without a lot of things but you seem quite into your gaming stuff 
), play your new acquisitions until you've 1cc-ed/gottenahighscore/mastered or whatever your usual shmup goals are (that should take a healthy bit of time if you aren't proshmupper), keep working at your job, save for teh future, go to school and learn cool things there for teh future, and buy your games/things slowly along the way 
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My 2 cents.
), play your new acquisitions until you've 1cc-ed/gottenahighscore/mastered or whatever your usual shmup goals are (that should take a healthy bit of time if you aren't proshmupper), keep working at your job, save for teh future, go to school and learn cool things there for teh future, and buy your games/things slowly along the way .My 2 cents.
Shmups forum just rrod'd on me 
I got a page cannot be displayed, so 
Anyway the sixaxis is great! Long battery life, longer than the vibrator3 and it is lighter as well! joy! and you need not buy a seperate battery pack and loader like with the 360 controller! It's consistent, but agreed, evolution-wise a bit stuborn, jus' a bit.
I got a page cannot be displayed, so Anyway the sixaxis is great! Long battery life, longer than the vibrator3 and it is lighter as well! joy! and you need not buy a seperate battery pack and loader like with the 360 controller! It's consistent, but agreed, evolution-wise a bit stuborn, jus' a bit.
Ack! That's what I do, P.O! Great to see I'm not the only one xD
As for the hardware, I don't like the failure rate of the 360, but the Sixaxis/Dualshock 3/whatever has yet to anger me. I've liked using every Sony pad so far. I never liked the Xbox crap, mainly because whenever I wanted to play Guilty Gear, I had to play it with an analog stick or with a crappy d-pad. Usually had to go with the stick =/
That's a good plan, machinist =) I think that after I beat all the stuff I have that isn't absolutely triple-frickin'-A, I'm going to sell it all off and perhaps organize my crap for once. And of course I'm going to keep going to my job, I love hangin' with the hunnies :wink:
And yes, Elixir, I'm waiting for unannounced Cave localizations =) And I think you're right, I DID decide by getting DOJ. Can't wait for the MGS4 funs.
And yeah, D, Sony's kind of a bit behind on changing up their controller, but I've always favored the Dualshock anyway ^_-
As for the hardware, I don't like the failure rate of the 360, but the Sixaxis/Dualshock 3/whatever has yet to anger me. I've liked using every Sony pad so far. I never liked the Xbox crap, mainly because whenever I wanted to play Guilty Gear, I had to play it with an analog stick or with a crappy d-pad. Usually had to go with the stick =/
That's a good plan, machinist =) I think that after I beat all the stuff I have that isn't absolutely triple-frickin'-A, I'm going to sell it all off and perhaps organize my crap for once. And of course I'm going to keep going to my job, I love hangin' with the hunnies :wink:
And yes, Elixir, I'm waiting for unannounced Cave localizations =) And I think you're right, I DID decide by getting DOJ. Can't wait for the MGS4 funs.
And yeah, D, Sony's kind of a bit behind on changing up their controller, but I've always favored the Dualshock anyway ^_-
Re: What to do...
man fuck the videogames, get a transam and a sixpack instead, seriously!m3tall1ca wrote: I'm a poor student who starts community college next year
the destruction of everything, is the beginning of something new. your whole world is on fire, and soon, you'll be too..
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About the fail rates of a 360...
I've got mine since a bit after launch, and it's been used and abused. Not a hiccup. In fact, I don't know anybody personally who had trouble with their console (small sample, granted, but that's maybe 25 people).
Maybe the user is sometimes at fault?
I've got mine since a bit after launch, and it's been used and abused. Not a hiccup. In fact, I don't know anybody personally who had trouble with their console (small sample, granted, but that's maybe 25 people).
Maybe the user is sometimes at fault?
Muchos años después, frente al pelotón de fusilamiento...
Re: What to do...
Got the second, working on the first ;)sven666 wrote:man fuck the videogames, get a transam and a sixpack instead, seriously! 8)m3tall1ca wrote: I'm a poor student who starts community college next year
I'm in the middle of school, so I'm not gonna be back at this until like 6 central, so be sure to make me look like an idiot before I get there!! Elixir has the right idea already! =)
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E. Randy Dupre
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No.KindGrind wrote:About the fail rates of a 360...
I've got mine since a bit after launch, and it's been used and abused. Not a hiccup. In fact, I don't know anybody personally who had trouble with their console (small sample, granted, but that's maybe 25 people).
Maybe the user is sometimes at fault?
I mean, sure, sometimes you'll get some dick doing something ridiculous with a console and it'll break as a result, but the 360 failure rate isn't imaginary and isn't due to user incompetence. If it were, Microsoft wouldn't have admitted liability by extending the warranty to three years. I've had to send two back and I take good care of my machines. Every single 360 owner on another forum I'm on has had to return theirs for repair at least once. Free repair, that is, which means that MS have agreed that it's the console at fault, not the user.
However, both of my 360s now appear to be working flawlessly - I realise I'm tempting fate by saying that, but hey - and I've heard no complaints from people who've had theirs repaired in the last three or four months, since MS started using the newer components, which suggests to me that the problem is largely sorted now. Anecdotal evidence, sure.
As fa as the controllers go, the benefit of having accurate analogue sticks without enormous dead zones or the traditionally spongy, innacurate Dual Shock feel means that the 360 pad wins out over the Sixaxis in y book, by quite some margin. The analogue triggers on the Sixaxis also suffer in comparison with those on the 360 pad, for much the same reason: they feel spongy and imprecise.
I normally try to stay out of these kinds of arguments, but there are pros and cons with both machines. 360 is the best bet for new games and online play, PS3 has excellent backwards compatibility (comparitively speaking) and the extensive catalogue of old games that's available via the Japanese PSN. Plus BluRay (if that makes any difference to you).
I own both, btw, before any complaints about bias creep in.
