thoughts/opinions on the most recent DC shmups released plz

Guardians Knight · Post by **Guardians Knight** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:08 pm

so i realized recently that there has been a small bushel of shmups released fairly recently for the DC, just wondering what peoples' thorts/opinions are of them. specifically im talking THE, Karous and Last Hope

Post by **Dave_K.** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:58 pm

Lots of opinions in these two topic threads:

Milestone release 'Karous' - Arcade 2006 / Dreamcast 2007
New Neo-Geo shmup -- Last Hope (also for DC)

Happy reading...

nimitz · Post by **nimitz** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:49 am

Trigger Heart is pretty original both in theme and gameplay; it's also pretty fun. One of the best shmup on the DC.

Karous Is very similar to Radirgy, with the shield and with some pretty damn strict memorization in order to score, not really my cup of tea.

As fot Last hope well, it's a very hard game to understand

Sturmvogel Prime · Post by **Sturmvogel Prime** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:22 am

Last Hope is a cool game, 1000 times better than Pulstar.

If you wanna see my opinion about Triggerheart Exelica, check my review.

gennss · Post by **gennss** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:34 pm

last 2 games released for dreamcast were Karous and Triggerheart. Karous is ok, but Triggerheart is absolutely great. You just have to survive any possible aversions to the color pink. Other than that Triggerheart is quickly becoming my favorite game.

tommyb · Post by **tommyb** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:34 pm

edit: posted in wrong thread and can't figure out how to delete posts

Daedalus · Post by **Daedalus** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:55 pm

I can't say enough good things about Triggerheart Exelica. It's one of my favorite games.

Haven't played the other two yet.

ChurchOfSolipsism · Post by **ChurchOfSolipsism** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:05 pm

Sturmvogel Prime wrote:Last Hope is a cool game, 1000 times better than Pulstar.

lol wut

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:09 pm

ChurchOfSolipsism wrote:
Sturmvogel Prime wrote:Last Hope is a cool game, 1000 times better than Pulstar.
lol wut

definition of what fun ist

ott0bot · Post by **ott0bot** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:16 pm

ChurchOfSolipsism wrote:
Sturmvogel Prime wrote:Last Hope is a cool game, 1000 times better than Pulstar.
lol wut

i though last hope was a pretty mediocre r-type clone, and pulstar was an excellent and pretty looking clone. (i did like blazing star a bit more though).

On the other hand the same makers of Last Hope have a new shmup scheduled to be released this year. It's called DUX, it's 27 bucks or so, plus shipping on play-asia right now. here's a video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW5WePPRs_U

looks light another pretty r-type clone, but the gameplay seems innovative. big ship though....pulstar definately was an influence. I'm waiting to see the reviews.

oh...and THE is awesome, definatly one of my favorites. read the reviews or better yet get an ISO and preview it.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:20 pm

Dux sux (bigass chunky ships and bullets and lighting effects and explosions obscuring what's actually going on?! YAWAY)

Post by **Icarus** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:43 pm

Sturmvogel Prime wrote:Last Hope is a cool game, 1000 times better than Pulstar.

That's either one hell of an elaborate troll, or you're really are that backward.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:31 am

Icarus wrote:
Sturmvogel Prime wrote:Last Hope is a cool game, 1000 times better than Pulstar.
That's either one hell of an elaborate troll, or you're really are that backward.

deary me...

ChurchOfSolipsism · Post by **ChurchOfSolipsism** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:34 am

Ed Oscuro wrote:Dux sux (bigass chunky ships and bullets and lighting effects and explosions obscuring what's actually going on?! YAWAY)

Well it certainly looks like a turd.

Post by **Icarus** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:53 am

jpj wrote:deary me...

Roffles. Accidents vill happin.

Guardians Knight · Post by **Guardians Knight** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:59 am

yeah thanks guys, i think THE is immense, makes me sad my white little friend is dead when it still has so much potential. karous im not so fussed on tho.

Is the ps2 ver. of Triggerheart out yet? if so anyone know how it compares or is it just a straight port?

Guardians Knight · Post by **Guardians Knight** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:07 am

sorry for the double post but...

i feel i must comment on sturmvogel's review, or rather this sentence:

A thing that i hate is the countdown before unpausing the game, just like in the PS2 port of ESP Galuda, i think that's the stupidest and annoying feature that a game could have.

surely this is a most innovative thing esp if you get an annoying untimely interuption it allows you to focus again before launching yourself back into the game! awesome idea if you ask me

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:28 am

i'm one of the hopeless mutants that enjoyed last hope.

ROBOTRON · Post by **ROBOTRON** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:10 am

Jockel wrote:i'm one of the hopeless mutants that enjoyed last hope.

Me too. I don't think its perfect, not by a long shot...but it was fun and a good effort for NeoDev.

Under Defeat - Outstanding
Chaos Field - Ok.
Trizeal - um, i dunno...aa little below average
Karous - looks cool, but I don't have it.
Border Down - GET IT.

KindGrind · Post by **KindGrind** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:27 am

Border Down is a no brainer. It's a favourite of mine. As for Karous, it's pretty good, but Radirgy's ultimately more fun to play because it's a bit more colorful and "alive". Last Hope is probably the last one I hope to play again in the bunch.

Post by **nZero** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:44 am

Guardians Knight wrote:Is the ps2 ver. of Triggerheart out yet? if so anyone know how it compares or is it just a straight port?

Alchemist hasn't posted a release date more specific than "this winter" so, hopefully it'll be out no later than Feb. 2009.

Observer · Post by **Observer** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:54 pm

Well not 'recent' per se but Psyvariar 2 is freaking amazing and it's also available for the original Xbox if I'm not wrong. Buzzing, piano-driven punchi punchi OST of the good kind and quite challenging. Can't go wrong with this one.

Seconding Under Defeat and Border Down: they are equally amazing. Zero Gunner 2 looks pretty and great too, although I didn't have much time to play this one.