PSP 3000

Phil12 · Post by **Phil12** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:01 am

PSP 3000

Better screen (for outdoor use)

shittier battery power

built in mic (7 year olds screaming into psps)

And, a discontinued PSP Slim

Imagine if Sony actually did something good. How bout a flip screen?

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:05 am

what does this new screen do actually? is it better picture quality or is it just brighter or what?

SFKhoa · Post by **SFKhoa** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:59 am

"For outdoor use" possibly implies that the screen's definitely going to be brighter.

Post by **Ghegs** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:06 am

The new model can also be plugged into SD televisions, which I find to be the most interesting new (well, revised) feature. Now if there was only a way to plug a PS2/USB controller into the unit...

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:12 am

Phil12 wrote:shittier battery power

I'm not sure how they managed this.

By the time they reach the PSP4000, it's going to require you to have it plugged in at all times, becoming a PS2.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:34 am

FIL · Post by **FIL** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:30 am

Elixir wrote:
Phil12 wrote:shittier battery power
I'm not sure how they managed this.

By the time they reach the PSP4000, it's going to require you to have it plugged in at all times, becoming a PS2.

The PSP 4000 will be a PS3 peripheral.

Etrian · Post by **Etrian** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:45 am

Ghegs wrote:The new model can also be plugged into SD televisions, which I find to be the most interesting new (well, revised) feature. Now if there was only a way to plug a PS2/USB controller into the unit...

Seconded! This would be a great decision.. and I'm surprised some third party company hasn't picked up on this by now.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:43 pm

Ghegs wrote:The new model can also be plugged into SD televisions, which I find to be the most interesting new (well, revised) feature.

Do you mean that now you can play games on a SD TV? IIRC you were already able to watch UMDs and whatnot on one, but needed a component cable to play games. I wonder if the size of the borders is the same...probably.

And yeah, some sort of controller plug-in feature would be nice.

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:14 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:
Ghegs wrote:The new model can also be plugged into SD televisions, which I find to be the most interesting new (well, revised) feature.
Do you mean that now you can play games on a SD TV? IIRC you were already able to watch UMDs and whatnot on one, but needed a component cable to play games. I wonder if the size of the borders is the same...probably.

And yeah, some sort of controller plug-in feature would be nice.

Make your suggestion known to SCEI and I'm sure they'll consider it for the next PSP hardware iteration or perhaps as an add-on adapter with a PSP-3000 firmware update to make it work.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

Post by **Ghegs** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:15 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:Do you mean that now you can play games on a SD TV? IIRC you were already able to watch UMDs and whatnot on one, but needed a component cable to play games. I wonder if the size of the borders is the same...probably.

Yep. To quote GameSpot:

GameSpot wrote:The new system has the same video-out port and uses the exact same video cables as the PSP-2000, but Sony has upgraded the PSP-3000's video output to support gameplay output on interlaced displays using composite video cables.

I recall reading somewhere that on 4:3 TVs there are borders, but I guess I could live with those.

There are ways out there to attach a DualShock to a PSP, but I figure those require some seriously heavy modding and probably won't even work on the 3000. Hopefully some sort of easy solution will present itself sooner or later.

E. Randy Dupre · Post by **E. Randy Dupre** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:19 pm

Elixir wrote:
Phil12 wrote:shittier battery power
I'm not sure how they managed this.

Brighter screen.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:24 pm

Ghegs wrote:I recall reading somewhere that on 4:3 TVs there are borders, but I guess I could live with those.

There are sizable borders on 16:9 TVs on the current model (someone put up a screenshot of 'em here not too long ago, I forget where though) - I'm curious how the new setup would compare to the current one, though as I said it's probably more or less the same.

EDIT: Found it -

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:26 pm

E. Randy Dupre wrote:
Elixir wrote:
Phil12 wrote:shittier battery power
I'm not sure how they managed this.
Brighter screen.

By using a brighter screen on the PSP-3000 interation at the expense of less battery capacity. Might as well as use a PSP 2200mAh Li-Ion battery pack to compensate for that fact. The PSP is such a voracious beast when it comes to battery power usage (and even moreso, if one overclocks the PSP-1000/PSP-1001 variant CPU's just to run homebrew and emulation).

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

Phil12 · Post by **Phil12** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:52 pm

Actually, my original PSP phat does a pretty good job on battery power still.
There was such a big improvement on the gameboy when the SP came out, it's a shame Sony can't make major improvements. A PSP itself is becoming just like its own firmware updates. Updating is useless.

Post by **Ghegs** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:10 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:There are sizable borders on 16:9 TVs on the current model (someone put up a screenshot of 'em here not too long ago, I forget where though) - I'm curious how the new setup would compare to the current one, though as I said it's probably more or less the same.

EDIT: Found it -

Whoa Nelly. That's some serious bordering right there. On my 21'' non-widescreen TV it'd be a poststamp.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:17 pm

The weird thing is, when you're on the PSP's regular ol' menu screen/desktop/whatever the heck the technical term is, it's displayed full screen - once you start a game, though, it's a quick trip straight to border city. I'm sure there's some technical excuse for this, but I have no idea what it could be...

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:37 pm

a friend of mine through hacked firmware had the PSP slim output a game on his TV that filled the screen. I didn't witness this but he told me the games would slow down when he used this no border option.

makes sense since the game would be rendered in a much higher resolution to fill the screen. the PSP has no scaler so it would have to render it in 480p versus it normal resolution with borders.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:43 pm

Sorry Ed, I hit the "edit" button by accident, when I intended to hit "quote" and unintentionally screwed up your post...feel free to repost what you said before, there was nothing wrong with any of it, I just wasn't paying attention to what I was doing. -BM :oops:

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:11 pm

Ed Oscuro wrote:it'd still be a good upgrade from the PSP's dimensions, I think.

It's certainly a bigger picture, almost regardless of what sort of TV you're using, but considering that the Super Game Boy and GBA Player had far thinner borders than this system it's still kind of annoying.

Post by **Ghegs** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:26 am

Something I ran into on another forum. Official word is that the 3000's battery life is the same as the current model's after all.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:44 am

Ed Oscuro wrote:Sorry Ed, I hit the "edit" button by accident, when I intended to hit "quote" and unintentionally screwed up your post...feel free to repost what you said before, there was nothing wrong with any of it, I just wasn't paying attention to what I was doing. -BM :oops:

I already got BM's apology for this, and I knew this would be the reason...I've done it myself so I'm not worried.

My post said that the screen should be the same relative size (I guess that's known), and if you're close enough to a 21" (like I am right now) that should afford a good upgrade over the PSP's regular screen.

Anyhow, I guess this means that the PSP simply doesn't have the hardware to scale up an image as much as the SGB/GBP did. Of course those players can have pretty big borders as well, but they use dedicated hardware.

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:14 pm

Ghegs wrote:Something I ran into on another forum. Official word is that the 3000's battery life is the same as the current model's after all.

So it's safe to say that it's feasible to use Sony's extended PSP battery pack rated at 2200mAh with bigger batter cover that is produced for the PSP-2000 series. A little bit more juice out of a PSP battery is better than the stock thin PSP-2000 battery pack any ol' day. ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~