How much does a Progear board cost + some other questions..
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Super Laydock
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How much does a Progear board cost + some other questions..
Have finally played Progear for real at the London shmupmeet I came away quite impressed by it.
So I was just thinking about how much the board goes for at the moment!?
I won't be able to buy it now (since the E3 trip costs me a fairly large ammount of money) but was wondering about it.
Also: how could I hook it up to my (Jamma) supergun (well after it's been repaired...)? I believe this isn't a Jamma board so I just thought I'd ask.
So I was just thinking about how much the board goes for at the moment!?
I won't be able to buy it now (since the E3 trip costs me a fairly large ammount of money) but was wondering about it.
Also: how could I hook it up to my (Jamma) supergun (well after it's been repaired...)? I believe this isn't a Jamma board so I just thought I'd ask.
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Progear is a CPS2 game, which means you'll need the game board (B board) and a CPS2 motherboard (A board). Be careful about which region you get, as not all the A/B boards are compatible.
Green (Japanese) and Blue (US/Euro) boards are interchangeable and seem to be the most common in my experience. I've got a mix of Green and Blue B boards with a Green A board.
Grey (Asian) boards also turn up every so often, but only work with Grey A boards.
The other thing you need to be aware of with CPS2 games is the sucide batteries, which have to be replaced every few years, unless you get someone to permamently "fix" the board.
You should have no problem connecting it straight to your supergun (once you get it fixed ), as the A board has a JAMMA connector, and as its only a 2 button game you don't need any extra harnesses or wiring.
Green (Japanese) and Blue (US/Euro) boards are interchangeable and seem to be the most common in my experience. I've got a mix of Green and Blue B boards with a Green A board.
Grey (Asian) boards also turn up every so often, but only work with Grey A boards.
The other thing you need to be aware of with CPS2 games is the sucide batteries, which have to be replaced every few years, unless you get someone to permamently "fix" the board.
You should have no problem connecting it straight to your supergun (once you get it fixed ), as the A board has a JAMMA connector, and as its only a 2 button game you don't need any extra harnesses or wiring.
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Super Laydock
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^^ thanks for clearing that up a little bit!
About the suicide batteries: Are they just needed for high-score saving or do they HAVE to bereplaced in order to play the game once they're dead?
Also: are these readily available and easy to replace?
Thanks in advance for any help!
About the suicide batteries: Are they just needed for high-score saving or do they HAVE to bereplaced in order to play the game once they're dead?
Also: are these readily available and easy to replace?
Thanks in advance for any help!
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I've never come across a CPS2 game that saves scores (one reason why I asked you to take a pic of my Mighty Pang score when we met up), but it does save game settings IIRC.
You have to change the battery BEFORE it dies. Once the battery runs out of juice and the board sucides, you're screwed unless you can either return it to Capcom (not sure if this is possible for home consumers) or pay someone like Razoola to perform the board modifications.
Changing the batteries isn't as tricky as I'd been led to believe, but it all depends on how confident you are with a soldering iron. The batteries are 1/2 AA size.
You have to change the battery BEFORE it dies. Once the battery runs out of juice and the board sucides, you're screwed unless you can either return it to Capcom (not sure if this is possible for home consumers) or pay someone like Razoola to perform the board modifications.
Changing the batteries isn't as tricky as I'd been led to believe, but it all depends on how confident you are with a soldering iron. The batteries are 1/2 AA size.
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Hmm with my luck I will probably have the batteries die before I even get a chance of replacing them. How long do these batteries last anyway?elbarto wrote: You have to change the battery BEFORE it dies. Once the battery runs out of juice and the board sucides, you're screwed unless you can either return it to Capcom (not sure if this is possible for home consumers) or pay someone like Razoola to perform the board modifications.
Changing the batteries isn't as tricky as I'd been led to believe, but it all depends on how confident you are with a soldering iron. The batteries are 1/2 AA size.
And soldering myself doesn't sound like a good plan as I've got 2 left hands when it comes to this stuff...
Again thanks for the info!
Anyone know about prices?
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The suicide battery can last 10+ years. I wouldn't stress over it too much on a newer board like Progear. Better safe than sorry though.
VSA (The Sheep's arcade shop) is offering the battery change service.
http://www.vsa-ag.ch/data/Stocklist_web_e.htm
Progear price for Japan version is around $300-350 for A+B boards right now. Shipping from Japan or HK should be another $50-70.
VSA (The Sheep's arcade shop) is offering the battery change service.
http://www.vsa-ag.ch/data/Stocklist_web_e.htm
Progear price for Japan version is around $300-350 for A+B boards right now. Shipping from Japan or HK should be another $50-70.
I paid about $450 for mine back in October, it was well worth it. Got it from Eynon Philippe ( sales@videogamecentre.co.uk ) Highly recommended PCB dealer, I hope they're still in business cuz I am currently having trouble finding their site.
10 years? Are you sure? I thought it was around 2-5. And is the sheep even still around? But if he is, yeah I will definitely be sending my board (eventually) to him or someone who can do a battery swap.oxtsu wrote:The suicide battery can last 10+ years. I wouldn't stress over it too much on a newer board like Progear. Better safe than sorry though.
VSA (The Sheep's arcade shop) is offering the battery change service.
http://www.vsa-ag.ch/data/Stocklist_web_e.htm
Progear price for Japan version is around $300-350 for A+B boards right now. Shipping from Japan or HK should be another $50-70.
the only tricky part about changing the battery is opening the B board as it has torx screws. You can open them with a regular screwdriver with some effort, but that ruins the screws in the long run, so you should better get a set of torx bits for the process. How to do it is descirbed here:
http://cps2shock.retrogames.com/suicide.html
when buying a B board, just ask when the battery was changed last time, most sellers are aware of that, and it´s not uncommon to replace it before selling.
http://cps2shock.retrogames.com/suicide.html
when buying a B board, just ask when the battery was changed last time, most sellers are aware of that, and it´s not uncommon to replace it before selling.
Yes, though it's not recommended, just possible (hard to say the degree of possibility without more data). I have a board that is 9 years old now without change and others have said similar reports, longest I've heard was 12 years. The factory recommended change is at 5 years. Here's a page from a fellow arcade hobbyist in Japan about CPS-II suicide battery:Dylan1CC wrote:10 years? Are you sure? I thought it was around 2-5.
http://onamasa.at.infoseek.co.jp/masa/d ... index.html