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Japanese is one scary language...

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to speak.

I'm telling you as a guy who has gone through the JLPT material over and over and probably couldn't manage to have a casual conversation.

Today, I was on the train and this Hindu looking guy looks at me reading my JLPT 1 book says something in Japanese to me. So I freak out and say #@%$&^&(* (some shit, I don't know.) But he said it again and I'm like "Yeah, I'm learning Japanese." And that was it and I switched the conversation to English.

:x pathetic, I know.

One of these days, I gotta fly to Japan and stay for like six months to get the hang on the conversation thing. (Yeah, right, even I'm not believing it. Japanese conversation is like an endless pit.)
"Sooo, what was it that you consider a 'good salary' for a man to make?"
"They should at least make 100K to have a good life"
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I feel your pain.

Although i dare not come close to JLPT-1.
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In high school, I did French for 5 years. I was shit. I just couldn't get the language into my head, despite it being really easy. I even had a huge interest in French culture, especially the cinema. Before my GCSE's (the final compulsory exams in the UK), we did some mock tests, and from this it was established that my predicted grade was a D. It would have been an E if I hadn't got a good mark on my reading comprehension.

Literally weeks before my GCSE's started, we took a holiday to the South of France. My Dad forced me to talk to everyone. It was horrible. I was completely awkward and totally unprepared to speak the language. Not only that, people in the South don't talk like they do on the cassettes they play to you in listening comprehension. Still, I muddled through. I got some books in French (Northern Lights and The Hobbit, as well as a stack of Manga, easy to read stuff like Evangelion and Young Great Teacher Onizuka). I started talking to some French kids near the caravan park where I was staying. I stayed out a few times and got drunk off cheap wine. I was still pretty crap, and wasn't fluent or anything, but I was actually speaking French for the first time.

When I got back to the UK, I didn't do much revision, just a bit of reading. And I managed to get an A in my exam. My teacher (who previously had hated me) was delighted. It was awesome.

I've never been lucky enough to learn a language just by sitting down and studying it. My Dad always said the best way to get good in a language is to go out with someone who speaks it. So failing going to Japan, which would be uber expensive, if you really want to succeed at conversational Japanese, you need to find yourself a Japanese girlfriend, or at the very least Japanese speaking friends :D
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Japanese isn't a scary language. But German ooooh.... Some big guy yelled at me in German, he made me cry...
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I gotta get back to class and get more social. Like most people I don't like making a complete ass out of myself (although I did that for years learning English.) I gotta find me a Japanese bud to hang out with during weekends (damn the 9-5 thing.)
"Sooo, what was it that you consider a 'good salary' for a man to make?"
"They should at least make 100K to have a good life"
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MX7 wrote: if you really want to succeed at conversational Japanese, you need to find yourself a Japanese girlfriend
Sounds like a win win situation. :D
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Skykid wrote:
MX7 wrote: if you really want to succeed at conversational Japanese, you need to find yourself a Japanese girlfriend
Sounds like a win win situation. :D
Haven't ever dated a chick and I'm in no hurry to. They can bring a bunch of misery and torment, not to mention loss of freedom. I'm pretty much career centered right now and too full of desire to learn for them.

Edit: we could always be friends, tho.
"Sooo, what was it that you consider a 'good salary' for a man to make?"
"They should at least make 100K to have a good life"
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GrimoreLibrarian wrote:Japanese isn't a scary language. But German ooooh.... Some big guy yelled at me in German, he made me cry...
NEIN DU!
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my girlfriend is currently learning and has a tutor who's native, which i think helps a lot. the way you study, is it more focused on reading and writing than conversation?
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UnscathedFlyingObject wrote: Haven't ever dated a chick and I'm in no hurry to. They can bring a bunch of misery and torment, not to mention loss of freedom. I'm pretty much career centered right now and too full of desire to learn for them.
Wise words my friend, and you're totally 100% right.
Until the time comes when somehow you've completely given up your life, and not quite sure how it happened, have plenty of fun and learn like mad!

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jpj wrote:my girlfriend is currently learning and has a tutor who's native, which i think helps a lot. the way you study, is it more focused on reading and writing than conversation?
I read quite a bit. At least two Asahi Shimbun articles, then two chapters from my grammar books, then a list of vocab of 500 words every day. I'm pretty confident in my reading ability. I don't write much, but I've grasped most of the common use characters and lots of compounds.
"Sooo, what was it that you consider a 'good salary' for a man to make?"
"They should at least make 100K to have a good life"
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My recommendation is to stay away from JLPT1 stuff (except for maybe a vocab book) until you have JLPT2 down pat and can hold an in depth conversation about something. For the most part JLPT2 is far more usable, friendly, and will generally result in you getting laughed at less (even as an advanced speaker). JLPT1 is a bit of a piss take to be honest. Especially the grammar.
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GrimoreLibrarian wrote:Japanese isn't a scary language. But German ooooh.... Some big guy yelled at me in German, he made me cry...
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WTF? I'm away from this forum for a while, and what did I miss? Is it "Switch your avatar to pics of Asian chicks with big-ass tits week?" How old are you guys, anyways? The Japanese language is not nearly as scary as some of the cleavage I'm seeing here today...
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How old are you guys, anyways?
:lol:

How else can the otaku establish himself without a pair of slant tits in the avatar? If you go on a forum about the African jungle you would expect to run into a white rhino or two right?
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Today, I was on the train and this Hindu looking guy looks at me reading my JLPT 1 book
I used to study at work during my lunch break. More than once, someone passing by looked at my textbook and my papers covered with kanji and asked me if it was some kind of math.
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greg wrote:WTF? I'm away from this forum for a while, and what did I miss? Is it "Switch your avatar to pics of Asian chicks with big-ass tits week?"
Bang on.

It's a subtle social commentary actually, but I don't think Joshf gets it...
Or does he?
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JoshF wrote:
How old are you guys, anyways?
:lol:

How else can the otaku establish himself without a pair of slant tits in the avatar? If you go on a forum about the African jungle you would expect to run into a white rhino or two right?
Oi! If you can be 'ironic lol', we can too!

Looks like the tits are staying until everyone gets the joke :(
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MX7 wrote:
Looks like the tits are staying until everyone gets the joke :P
Emoticon fixed for you MX7 :wink:
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Stormwatch wrote:
GrimoreLibrarian wrote:Japanese isn't a scary language. But German ooooh.... Some big guy yelled at me in German, he made me cry...
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MX7 wrote:Looks like the tits are staying until everyone gets the joke :(
Asians with tits? Well, it's a rather elaborate joke if I do say so myself.
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My friend studied Japanese for a few months, and it ended up in him taking a flight to Tokyo and staying there to study the language. He isn't having much problems with conversation by this moment (or actually, with anything there; quite an adaptable guy), and he's only been living there for a month.
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silvergunner wrote:
Pass lieber auf das Du in den Favelas nicht erschossen wirst!
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Well, it's nice that your speaker happened to know English.
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moozooh wrote:My friend studied Japanese for a few months, and it ended up in him taking a flight to Tokyo and staying there to study the language. He isn't having much problems with conversation by this moment (or actually, with anything there; quite an adaptable guy), and he's only been living there for a month.
I’m going over in November and I think, at this rate, I’m going to mainly rely on pointing.
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Just follow the tradition English means of communication in foreign countries, speak in English but LOUDER and SLOOOOOOOWER.
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@GrimoreLibrarian

Sorry for my mistake!My posting isn´t against you!I was disgruntled about Stormwatch`s posting therefore I post the wrong quote :oops:
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MX7 wrote: Looks like the tits are staying until everyone gets the joke :(
tits 4 life
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Post by GrimoreLibrarian »

This is scary topic... your all plotting against me... aren't you?

To get back on topic, I think... The Japaneses language might be getting popular in America. My last high school just got a Japanese language class.

I blame Bleach, Naruto, Inuyasha and Death Note!
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GrimoreLibrarian wrote:Japanese isn't a scary language. But German ooooh.... Some big guy yelled at me in German, he made me cry...
Funny you say that, my mom profiled different languages "emotion" based on what people speaking it sound like. German and Russian as ANGRY languages, American English as the idiot language, Italian as a romantic language, Japanese as a excited language, etc etc. Remember that next time you listen to someone speaking a different language and you will know what she means. 8)
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