First "Raiden Clone"?

antron · Post by **antron** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:04 pm

So who invented the,

Pick up a color that changes your gun: Red spread bullets, Blue laser, and some other third color/weapon.

Truxton is 1988, before any Raiden.

Anything before that?

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:10 pm

Check out what Toaplan did before Truxton.

antron · Post by **antron** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:14 pm

Macaw wrote:Check out what Toaplan did before Truxton.

Twin Cobra, 1987. Never played it. Does it fit this group?

Mortificator · Post by **Mortificator** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:21 pm

R-Type had red, blue, & yellow lasers in '87.

I am woefully ignorant of Toa's earlier efforts, so I don't know if Irem copied them or vice versa. I should heat up Mame for a history lesson.

Anyway, the original Raiden only had red and blue weapons. The purple twisty laser didn't arrive until the second game.

JoshF · Post by **JoshF** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:26 pm

The first "Raiden" clone is Raiden.

Check out what Toaplan did before

D · Post by D » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:31 pm

So what raiden clones are there anyway?
I know of Shienryu which reeks of clonedom, but is a very good game.
I don't know of any other raiden clones. Well, perhaps that Shienryu sequal.

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:35 pm

D wrote:Well, perhaps that Shienryu sequal.

No, that's not similar to Raiden at all. It's not even similar to Shienryu.

Mortificator · Post by **Mortificator** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:42 pm

Raiden itself is such a clone that any clones of it would be deformed and/or retarded.

Skyline · Post by **Skyline** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:27 pm

Mortificator wrote:Raiden itself is such a clone that any clones of it would be deformed and/or retarded.

Mad Shark

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:50 pm

Skyline wrote:
Mortificator wrote:Raiden itself is such a clone that any clones of it would be deformed and/or retarded.
Mad Shark

lol, Allumer.

There's apparently a fairy point in the first stage, but shooting it repeatedly doesn't seem to have any affect. It's on the left of the screen immediately after the first medal and the big reddish square tank that shoots a wide spread of three orange shots. Anybody have a clue what to do here?

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:51 pm

Kyuukyoku Tiger/Twin Cobra was the first to use the varying powerups.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:52 pm

I think of the Twin Cobra series, the Raiden series, and Shienryu as all having a strong family resemblance to one another. There are plenty of cousins as well.

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:11 pm

JoshF wrote:The first "Raiden" clone is Raiden.

Check out what Toaplan did before

nimitz · Post by **nimitz** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:24 pm

Actually, Raiden is more or less a Kyukyoku Tiger (Twin Cobra) clone.

Like CIT said I think Kyukyoku Tiger is the first with changing color powerups that switch when you leave them standing for a while.

and I don't get why everyone seems to associate Shienryu to Raiden and not to Daioh....that being said, Daioh is a bit of a raiden clone.

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:37 pm

nimitz wrote:Actually, Raiden is more or less a Kyukyoku Tiger (Twin Cobra) clone.

Like CIT said I think Kyukyoku Tiger is the first with changing color powerups that switch when you leave them standing for a while.

and I don't get why everyone seems to associate Shienryu to Raiden and not to Daioh....that being said, Daioh is a bit of a raiden clone.

Yes, but Sheinryu is more so. Shienryu had a medal-collection system, and Daioh did not.

Raiden is a first, borrowing some concept from older games. Daioh and Mad Shark followed.

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:04 am

I think he wants games with slowass ships and sniper bulletz

lgb · Post by **lgb** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:09 am

shoe-sama wrote:I think he wants games with slowass ships and sniper bulletz

R-Type without speed-ups

BEAT THAT