Ending of R-Type Final!?

Rockstar · Post by **Rockstar** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:38 pm

umm, so I just beat the game on lvl F-C ... I think it's level F-C. The one where you are only allowed ONE life and no continues?

right.

So I've spent the last week trying to unlock a fighter strong enough to pull off this task, and finally I was able to do it.

If I'm not mistaken, the "ending" of this game is just my ship sort of meandering around space will the credits roll?!!?

Is there something else I'm supposed to do to get the "real" ending??

Maybe beat the game with a certain ship or have unlocked all the ships or all the Bydo records or SOMETHING??

If not, that is the most disappointing ending I've ever seen in gaming ever..... I was so psyched playing through the R-Type series... how could it "END" with NO RESOLUTION WHATSOEVER?!!?

Even if they wanted to "leave the audience wanting more," then they still should have SOMETHING ... some clifhanger ending or something!!

Please please please PLEASE tell me there is just something else I have to do to get the REAL ending!!

Sorry for all the Caps ... I'm just very frustrated right now!!

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:26 am

1) don't play these games for the ending
2) don't play r-type final

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:28 am

3 different final routes depending on how a certain boss is handled

dunno which boss it is, I don't play r-type lol

Rockstar · Post by **Rockstar** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:47 am

well typically I wouldn't care about a shmup's ending, but seeing as it is R-Type "FINAL" I kind of expected... I dunno ... ANYTHING AT ALL.

I mean, even the very first arcade version of R-Type at least had some text!!

It doesn't even say "the end", it doesn't even say "thanks for shooting"

... does anyone who HAS played through his game have any info on a "real" ending??

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:53 am

shoe-sama wrote:3 different final routes depending on how a certain boss is handled

hi

MathU · Post by **MathU** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:30 am

I believe Final references the ending of R-Type III (which is chronologically the last in the series) being the true end of the Bydo.

EDIT: Wrong.

Gwyrgyn Blood · Post by **Gwyrgyn Blood** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:28 am

I'm pretty sure the A branch ending is the 'real' ending anyway, the other two are just weird alternate endings. And you choose which path to take on the stage 5 boss when the bits come out to destroy, same way you choose the alternate stage 2 paths.

Now as a side note, are there different songs for the end credits between the US and Japanese versions of the game?

MathU · Post by **MathU** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:27 am

Yes, the American version ending has a song done by the Blue Man Group.

Rockstar · Post by **Rockstar** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:27 am

So the "real" ending is when you turn into a Bydo and the aliens win!? That doesn't seem very good ....

in any case, I'm very confused because what's the deal with the whole "Operation Last Dance" thing?? I mean, they show it during the intro and they have all the artwork pictures of it in the Gallery.

so I just assumed THAT was the true ending and you just had to do something to unlock it. I assumed there would be an extended FMV or something based on the footage in the intro.

Even that would have been a bit of a cop out, but at least it would be SOMETHING!!

... and yes, based on looking over the rest of the internet, there is a cheesy Japanese song over the credits in the Japanese version. Everything I've read says that the Blue Man Group song in the US version is a lot more fitting....

so just to confirm: getting all the ships and/or all monsters does NOT give any new endings??

what's that about R-Type III being the last one chronologically?? is there a site somewhere which details the order of all the games? maybe that would help me feel more satisfied =)

Also, I had been thinking of creating my own R-Type manga and putting it online ... I was going to base its beginning off of the end of R-Type Final .... so not having an ending would really mess that up. But maybe I should just review the end of RType III??

thanks for responding guys! I appreciate it!!

Zebra Airforce · Post by **Zebra Airforce** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:46 am

Rockstar wrote:So the "real" ending is when you turn into a Bydo and the aliens win!? That doesn't seem very good ....

in any case, I'm very confused because what's the deal with the whole "Operation Last Dance" thing?? I mean, they show it during the intro and they have all the artwork pictures of it in the Gallery.

F-A is the ending where you reach the bydo core and destroy it, however your ship is destroyed as well.

There are no extra endings unocked by getting all of the ships, etc. only the three you can get by destroying certain parts of the stage 5 boss, Fine Motion.

MathU · Post by **MathU** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:47 am

Actually, I was wrong. According to R-Type's official website, the storyline goes R-Type > R-Type Leo > Gallop: Armed Police Unit > R-Type Delta > R-Type II > R-Type III > R-Type Final.

Rockstar · Post by **Rockstar** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:39 am

can you link me to that part of the official website? I was certain RType Leo was the first one ... as evidenced by the fact that there was no Forces yet....

Damocles · Post by **Damocles** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:43 am

Rockstar wrote:can you link me to that part of the official website? I was certain RType Leo was the first one ... as evidenced by the fact that there was no Forces yet....

I was also under that impression. If I remember correctly, it takes place on/in a planet where a computer has gone haywire and starts destroying the population. And yeah, no Force since it hasn't been discovered/brought back yet.

Rockstar · Post by **Rockstar** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:50 am

true dat .... also, I was pretty sure Gallop/Delta were after RTypes 1,2 and 3 since I saw somewhere that they chose "delta" because it is the fourth letter of the Greek alphabet ... thus the fourth game.

Goshi · Post by **Goshi** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:02 am

Twiddle wrote:1) don't play these games for the ending
2) don't play r-type final

quoted for truth

shinsage · Post by **shinsage** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:17 am

the r-type games, and final in particular, have a pretty solid and at times engrossing backstory.

to write them off simply because of their genre is ignorant.

ROBOTRON · Post by **ROBOTRON** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:45 am

I found RSG's ending somewhat interesting...but most shmups endings consist of something blowing up and your ship simply flying away. I can't read or speak japanese, so unless there is some type of picture/slideshow...I don't know what happened anyway.

MathU · Post by **MathU** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:06 am

Here's a link to the official timeline: http://www.irem.co.jp/official/r/j/history/index.html

Damocles · Post by **Damocles** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:15 am

"Eden paradox
Around the same time, parallel dimension in the completed artificial celestial "Eden" is a runaway start.
Because of the repression launched by aircraft, "R-9 (LEO)" (birthday to the war Va - SUDI UO -) LEO-TYPE"

So...parallel dimension? It's part of the timeline...just not part of the Bydo universe?

Rockstar · Post by **Rockstar** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:36 am

based on the quality of that translation, I would say that, at worst, Leo takes place at the same time as RType I ... but... it's isolated to that man-made planet described at the end of the game and in the general plot of the game.

thus, the Leo was dispatched for that mission, and the R9 just became ready for RType I's mission.

... that's my best guess anyway.

also, I just got done replying RTFinal again. I played through stage F-A ... the one a previous poster said was the "real" ending.

I see the text on the level prior to that talks about Operation Last Dance ... SO ... yes, that is the real ending. Which is verified by the fact that that "official" timeline page talks about Operation Last Dance, and clearly it is a focal point of the game based on the gallery/intro.

I feel much better... thank you guys!!

Now then, does anyone know if ship play time is broken up when you switch ships in RTFinal??
Like, if I am trying to get 60 minutes on R-9C, and I play 30 minutes, then switch to another ship, do I have to start over at 0 minutes next time I select the R-9C?? Kinda seems like it....

Gungriffon Geona · Post by **Gungriffon Geona** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:53 pm

no, play time on each ship is held over.
also, if you're only just starting, that is gonna take a metric buttload of time to get all the ships. I did it legit, and I took maybe a good total of a week to do that.

Koa Zo · Post by **Koa Zo** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:16 pm

shinsage wrote:the r-type games, and final in particular, have a pretty solid and at times engrossing backstory.

to write them off simply because of their genre is ignorant.

quoted for truth

Rockstar · Post by **Rockstar** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:33 pm

Gungriffon Geona wrote:no, play time on each ship is held over.
also, if you're only just starting, that is gonna take a metric buttload of time to get all the ships. I did it legit, and I took maybe a good total of a week to do that.

yea, I'm also "doing it legit" ... I have about 60 ships but I've been at it for a few weeks (I'm currently going to school for my PhD ... so I don't have a ton of free time =D )

anyway, the game is TONs of fun ... I really think it's one of the best "simple" games I've ever played. and like I said, knowing that F-A is the intended ending does help a lot ... but irem still has no excuses why they didn't just slap an FMV on the end! even the worst companies do that.

anyway, thanks for all the info guys.

other than R-Type and Gradius, are there any other big time shmup SERIES I should know about/might want to play?

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:46 pm

shmups aren't movies

Rockstar · Post by **Rockstar** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:13 pm

shoe-sama wrote:shmups aren't movies

... what?

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:27 pm

and movies aren't shmups...

doctorx0079 · Post by **doctorx0079** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:52 am

Rockstar wrote: other than R-Type and Gradius, are there any other big time shmup SERIES I should know about/might want to play?

You could try starting here.

Also read the Board FAQ, it's great.

Rockstar · Post by **Rockstar** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:25 am

ah thank you, that WAS helpful =)

tviks · Post by **tviks** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:48 am

Rockstar wrote:other than R-Type and Gradius, are there any other big time shmup SERIES I should know about/might want to play?

These two should do just fine.

Mortificator · Post by **Mortificator** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:52 pm

Start with Battle Garegga.

Anyway, a piece of real advice: don't turn unlocking ships into work. That'll make the game bite harder than a shark on tampon.

Koa Zo wrote:
shinsage wrote:the r-type games, and final in particular, have a pretty solid and at times engrossing backstory.

to write them off simply because of their genre is ignorant.
quoted for truth

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