Smallest/largest hitboxes in any shoot 'em up?

MathU · Post by **MathU** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:31 am

In relation to playing field size, what are the largest and smallest hitboxes?

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:42 am

psyvariar 2's is one pixel

for a modern shooter, raiden fighters series - beast arrow/beast wing have the biggest

kengou · Post by **kengou** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:51 am

I feel like the hitboxes in most NES shmups are pretty huge since the collision detection in the NES is so bad. Sometimes when I'm playing Gradius I just crash into walls when I get too close to them, even if no part of Vic Viper has touched anything.

In terms of small hitboxes... most Cave games... also, most modern shmups period. In Ikaruga, there's even a part in chapter 2 where you can fit between crates where it doesn't seem like there's any space between them at all. Same with the "up-down" ships in chapter 3. It's larger than a pixel in size but the enemies have small hitboxes too so it seems even smaller.

tada · Post by **tada** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:37 am

Judge Spear in the Raiden Fighters series has a pretty big hitbox. Hell, almost any ship besides the Miclus, Fairy, or slaves do.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:08 am

Dragon Spirit, from (beyond) wingtip to dragon wingtip. I'm sure there are worse but that is pretty bad.

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:18 am

just waiting for Shatterhand to mention Xenon II.

Shinichi Chiba · Post by **Shinichi Chiba** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:16 am

All cave shmups , especially Battle Garegga have generaly the smallest hitboxes . There was a game called Sonic Princess, hentai shmup , for the PC that has a real big hitbox . By the way , I have Dragon Spirit for the PC engine and eventhough it has a large hitbox it still rules !

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:29 pm

Shinichi Chiba wrote:All cave shmups , especially Battle Garegga have generaly the smallest hitboxes .

Of course, this isn't strictly true for Garegga unless you use the small hitbox option.

Shinichi Chiba · Post by **Shinichi Chiba** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:49 pm

CMoon wrote:
Shinichi Chiba wrote:All cave shmups , especially Battle Garegga have generaly the smallest hitboxes .

Of course, this isn't strictly true for Garegga unless you use the small hitbox option.

OOPs forgot to mention the small hitbox option . Seems when it is on it is smaller than Donpachi .

ROBOTRON · Post by **ROBOTRON** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:35 pm

Rob wrote:Dragon Spirit, from (beyond) wingtip to dragon wingtip. I'm sure there are worse but that is pretty bad.

I agree with that. The hit box on this game is just ridiculous. I wonder why I like it so much anyway?

Post by **Icarus** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:13 pm

Shinichi Chiba wrote:All cave shmups , especially Battle Garegga

LOL.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:41 pm

I recall being zapped numerous times on that stupid protruding tailfin when playing Zero Wing...also being zapped in the flamey stuff coming out of the back of the Vic Viper's engines in at least one or two of the Gradius games.

As for smallest, Psyvariar 2 is definitely in the running...Mushi's is pretty small too, though it seems even smaller than it is since many of the bullets have hitboxes too.

SFKhoa · Post by **SFKhoa** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:59 pm

Trigon.

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:09 pm

especially Battle Garegga

Battle Garegga has small hitboxes?

Shinichi Chiba · Post by **Shinichi Chiba** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:21 pm

Icarus wrote:
Shinichi Chiba wrote:All cave shmups , especially Battle Garegga
LOL.

Sorry! MY post got all screwed up . Obviously I did not mean Battle Garegga is made by Cave as it is made by 8ing/Raizing . I was in a hurry , Shit happens ! And yes Battle Garegga has a special options menu where you can select small hit boxes !

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:30 pm

They're still kinda big

Shinichi Chiba · Post by **Shinichi Chiba** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:36 pm

shoe-sama wrote:They're still kinda big

Really ? I haven't played it in a while so I guess you must be right .Where the hell did I get this Battle Garegga small hitbox crap in my head from got to play the damn game again ! How about Gigawing Extend that has big hitboxes !

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:51 pm

All cave shmups , especially Battle Garegga

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Shinichi Chiba · Post by **Shinichi Chiba** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:54 pm

Twiddle wrote:
All cave shmups , especially Battle Garegga
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Holy Crap Twiddle ! I am never forgiving you for this ! Kind of funny though !

D · Post by D » Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:50 pm

Biggest hitbox ever?
Raiden on the Atari Lynx
Seems like enemiy ships are contagious.

Dale · Post by **Dale** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:05 pm

Ghost Pilot's has an obese hitbox. They actually made it the size of the ship...what were they thinking?

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:33 pm

what were they thinking?

They weren't.

gameoverDude · Post by **gameoverDude** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:03 pm

Namco's F/A (Fighter & Attacker) has a fairly huge hitbox. In fact, it could well be the entire plane. You're not going to "Cave" your way through the bullet storms here- a near miss is pretty much a hit.

gunbird18 · Post by **gunbird18** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:47 am

Dale wrote:Ghost Pilot's has an obese hitbox. They actually made it the size of the ship...what were they thinking?

I was just going to post about Ghost Pilots. I think in Kiken's Neo Geo collection video he says the hitbox is "BIGGER" than the plane?!?
OUCH! No wonder I loathed that shmup from the time I started playing it.

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:55 am

So what about smallest? Mushihime-sama FEELS like the smallest hitbox I've ever piloted personally, but the fact that most of the bullets are tons smaller than they look affects this feeling as well, so it might not be much smaller than other Cave hitboxes.

Homura has a pretty itty bitty hitbox as well. I don't remember when (probably while holding the fire button), but you can see it as a little red dot. It's like... a 4 pixel square or something =)

As for biggest, I think Dragon Spirits gets another vote from me. It's so... wide... My god. I think at least part of your tail isn't vulnerable, which is sort of nice. Viper Phase 1 was pretty bad too -_^

ROBOTRON · Post by **ROBOTRON** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:02 am

Cybercore for TG16 has a huge hitbox...especially when you power up. Hard to dodge bullets when your ship is 1/4 the screen.

yojo! · Post by **yojo!** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:20 am

Slapfight has the biggest hitbox once your ship is fully powered up. Try to top that up!

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:38 am

Gallop.

MathU · Post by **MathU** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:16 pm

No way. It's pretty small horizontally.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:47 pm

It's an elephant regardless.