Give me a reason to keep an original NES console

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Give me a reason to keep an original NES console

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Is there any real reason to keep an orignal NES console?

I have Gradius 1 and Lifeforce for the Saturn, and they seem great. I've kept the NES primarily due to teenage memories of Gradius (I had it when it was the only version, you basically needed to 1cc it or start over).

In the interests of keeping clutter down, I am thinking of selling it and the games.

Can anyone give me a good reason not to? Are there any good NES shooters that are not available on other consoles?
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You won't really get anything for it. You should just put it up somewhere out of the way. You never know... in 50 years that thing might be worth a ton.
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Jeffrey wrote: Can anyone give me a good reason not to? Are there any good NES shooters that are not available on other consoles?
Hmm, let's see....

Battle Formula, Crisis Force, Gunsmoke (much better than the arcade version imo), Macross, Over Horizon, Recca (fanicom, worth hunting down!), Zanac, Gun*nac, and motherfuckin' Gurdian Legend to name a few.
So don't do something stupid and sell one of the greatest system of all time just because you only have two shmups for it.

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Post by ave »

Apart from the fact that there are tons of great NES-games out there, you should keep it because of your teenage memories.

If you sell it now, you'll buy one again in about 5 years :P
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i sold mine when ps1 came out and regretted it ever since. keep!
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Not to mention that besides shmups, there are also classics like the four Dragon Warrior games, the three Ninja Gaiden games, the three Castlevania games, the three Contra games, and the many individual games like Gargoyle's Quest II.

Oh, and then there are the borderline shmups, like Heavy Barrel, Burai Fighter, Abadox and Silk Worm.
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For the sake of reducing clutter you might want to look for one of those FC Twin systems, to replace the NES and SNES if you have both.

I still use my NES for 1943, Zanac, and Megaman games.
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The Coop wrote: the three Contra games
I'd be hard-pressed to call Contra Force a classic. Or even average.

NES is a great system, but what do you want Jeff? A list of great NES shmups or a list of great NES games? As far as I'm concerned, the NES's strength is not in its shmups, but plethora of platformers.
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Post by Jeffrey »

Ok, ok, you guys are killing me! :):)

I decided to take Nuke's advice. The problem was I only knew of 2 good shooters for NES (US version). I checked out the screen shots and reviews from Xenocide and some of the titles mentioned above. Several of them (Section Z, Gunsmoke, Guardian Legends, etc.) are only 1-5 dollars on ebay, even buy it now. The trick is to order from one place, since the shipping is often more than the game! I paid less than 30 bucks for about 6 games.

Several, (Gunnac, Over Horizon, Crisis Force, and especially Recca) look really interesting, but are bigger dollars or were not available or were only for the Japanese Famicom, and I will wait on them.

I have one other question: I buy games to play them, not to collect per se. Do people find that their cartridge games for the NES and Genesis wear out and degrade over time and need to be replaced? I don't mind this too much for a 3 or even 20 dollar game, but I would mind if I bought Recca, for example.


Thx! This forum has been a great help.
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NES carts might need some help from a q-tip sprayed with window cleaner if they're dirty. Always does the trick, I've been doing this for around 6 years or more now and nothing bad's happened.
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You should keep it just to hunt down Metal Storm. I love that game.

I wish i could find mine lol, i want to play Gargoyle's Quest II.
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Jeffrey wrote:
I have one other question: I buy games to play them, not to collect per se. Do people find that their cartridge games for the NES and Genesis wear out and degrade over time and need to be replaced? I don't mind this too much for a 3 or even 20 dollar game, but I would mind if I bought Recca, for example.


Thx! This forum has been a great help.
As long as you take care of them, carts can last a very, very long time. You know, don't leave them sitting in the sun, don't get them wet, don't feed them after midnight, keep them as dust-free as you can... stuff like that. The main thing that'll die out on you, is the battery backup. They're supposed to generally last about five years, and replacing the battery inside can be a pain sometimes, as you need a special bit to get the screws out of the NES games. Of course, it's mostly the RPG's that have battery backup, so that's not going to be a concern too often.

Once in a great while, a cart will die on you. Something inside just stops working for whatever reason, and the game won't start anymore, or it always locks up. But that's usually because someone didn't take very good care of it (assuming you got it used). But generally speaking, if you don't abuse the thing, and make sure the connection pins aren't corroded, a cartridge can last decades.
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Post by theevilfunkster »

I think NES Lifeforce is a good enough reason to keep the console, It's quite a different game to the arcade version.
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Post by professor ganson »

Another recent discussion of this topic might prove useful:
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... reason+nes

Zanac is probably my favorite NES game, though I prefer to play it on Saturn.
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professor ganson wrote:Zanac is probably my favorite NES game, though I prefer to play it on Saturn.
PS1, I imagine you mean? ;)
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BulletMagnet wrote:
professor ganson wrote:Zanac is probably my favorite NES game, though I prefer to play it on Saturn.
PS1, I imagine you mean? ;)
Thanks, that's exactly what I meant to say. This cold has my head in a fog.
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1943, Burai Fighter, good conversion of Twin Cobra, Air Fortress, Legendary Wings (easy 1CC & a fun game), the list goes on.
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Post by Jeffrey »

Just played around with the NES this evening. I remember what I liked about the system, and what was missing on the Saturn conversions.

This may seem odd, but I like the old, simple, light NES controller, especially for Gradius. With only two buttons and a small size, it is easy to keep track of firing and "option" power-ups. That controller just "fits" Gradius 1. No complications, just fire and react.

I'm keeping it.
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I feel it's a small peice of nostalgia. I have all my old systems by selling you are just throwing your money away. :shock: <-I love that smily.
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There is absolutely no reason to get rid of a Nintendo system. Its pretty much the best console out there.

Big ups Contra and Excitebike players.
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sell that junk!

how much do you want for it?
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circuitface wrote:You won't really get anything for it. You should just put it up somewhere out of the way. You never know... in 50 years that thing might be worth a ton.
You'd be surprised...take a look at eBay to see what NESes are pulling down these days.
ED-057 wrote:For the sake of reducing clutter you might want to look for one of those FC Twin systems, to replace the NES and SNES if you have both.
The Sharp Famicom Twin won't replace either a NES or a SNES, since it's incompatible with both (for the NES you'd need an adapter). It plays Famicom cartridge and disk games. Super Famicom is the Japanese equivalent of the SNES, and came out years after the STF.
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Kirby, damn it!

Strange, but I prefer him over Mario for some reason. Even more strangely I feel Adventure just has something that Superstars (SNES) doesn't, as great as they both are.
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I never sell any of my old systems. If you're at all nostalgic, you will only hunt another down in six months.
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Ed Oscuro wrote:
circuitface wrote:You won't really get anything for it. You should just put it up somewhere out of the way. You never know... in 50 years that thing might be worth a ton.
You'd be surprised...take a look at eBay to see what NESes are pulling down these days.
ED-057 wrote:For the sake of reducing clutter you might want to look for one of those FC Twin systems, to replace the NES and SNES if you have both.
The Sharp Famicom Twin won't replace either a NES or a SNES, since it's incompatible with both (for the NES you'd need an adapter). It plays Famicom cartridge and disk games. Super Famicom is the Japanese equivalent of the SNES, and came out years after the STF.
The FC Twin, not the Sharp Famicom Twin, is a NES Clone with some SNES hardware. It uses standard RCA jacks, SNES controlers, and accepts NES/SNES games. I think it is like that System 8 adapter a while back and unsure if it is possible to mod RGB/Svideo output,
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Post by Dale »

Wow yours hasn't broken. :shock: I say keep it till it goes up and value and play your NES games on one of the newer generic releases of the NES(That don't have the spring loader that breaks easily).
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Post by stoneroses »

Hey man I have been down this road where I get rid of a system thinking I will never want it anymore.

Sure enough in a few years I would regret selling it and end up buying it back. Sure, there are things like emulation and virtual consoles, but having the original stuff and controllers is where the magic is.

Keep it. Pack it up good so it wont go bad and stash it up in a closet or something. I gurantee at some point you will be glad you have YOUR system again not someone elses you had to buy used somewhere.
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Post by dave4shmups »

There's pleny of reasons to keep it; it's got the most variety of games of just about any old-school console. And, I don't know if you have any other old-school consoles, but they are good to have around when you need a break from the complexity of games on current and Next-Gen consoles.

In terms of shmups, there are good domestic releases, and you can easily get a NES-Famicom converter, and start enjoying some of the best of 8-bit. Over Horizon, is still one of the best horis out there, IMO, and there are plenty of other great examples.

And, IMO, it's still the greatest console that Nintendo's ever built. Finally, don't get rid of any consoles you have-take it from me, you will regret it.
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dave4shmups wrote: Finally, don't get rid of any consoles you have-take it from me, you will regret it.
I have to agree you loose about 100-150 bucks every time you sell one and have nothing to play or show for it. :?
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do NOT get the FC Twin!

It wion't play SNES carts with DSP chips.

It also will not play Castelvania 3 or any odf te other "rpoblem games" it also will not support zapper on NES games.

avoid, avoid, avoid!

Sure if you don't care about castelvania III, Starfox, or any NES zapper games, it's not a bad buy, but...
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