Ketsui replay

Trevor spencer · Post by **Trevor spencer** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:46 am

hi

where can i get a ketsui replay from ? i was so looking forward to the super replay DVD but now it looks like its never gonna be released

Thanks
Trev

Ord · Post by **Ord** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:05 pm

I'd love to see a Ketsui replay too. Level 3 & 4 is doing my nut in! I'm actually starting to think this is a lot harder than Dai-Ou-Jou.

Trevor spencer · Post by **Trevor spencer** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:24 pm

Ord wrote: I'm actually starting to think this is a lot harder than Dai-Ou-Jou.

ive always thought that , but the score mech in ketsui is a lot easier

Ex_Mosquito · Post by **Ex_Mosquito** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:30 pm

Trevor, I have 2 round Ketsui replay if you still need it. Come on MSN and i'll send you it

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:46 pm

I actually just ripped this. I've only got Level 3 online at the moment. Was looking for someone to host, as a 350 MB shmup replay isn't the type of thing Classic Gaming likes to host. I've got Battle Garegga and ESPRade I can rip and put somewhere as well. We need a replay FTP.

mannerbot · Post by **mannerbot** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:59 pm

Maybe we could get a DC++ hub up, like the GoForBroke hub the SRK guys have up for fighting game replays.

gunbird18 · Post by **gunbird18** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:14 pm

I was thinking of posting the same request yesterday, Trevor! I did a little bit of searching on google, but came up with some dead links. I was kind of afraid to post the request here, for fear of being shot down with a "did you search for it?!?!?!?"

If someone has one on their HD, could I possibly send you a cd-r to burn it on?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:21 am

You can temporarily download stage 3 from Japanese Gaming. It didn't come out so hot when I ripped it, but it should serve it's purpose. If someone can give me some better pointers for Auto Gordian Knot, I don't mind redoing it.

Again -- we need an FTP server. If I still lived in Japan with my 100/10 connection...

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:22 am

Those who don't mind P2P swarming apps like BitTorrent can use this. If you wish to upload your torrents to it, send me a PM requesting your screenname added to the DB, and I'll grant upload capability, and then you can share replays to your heart's content.

Whether or not anyone (besides myself) chooses to use this facility is entirely up to them. Personally, I prefer BT since I've had varying degrees of success downloading from eDonkey2K and DC++.

TVG · Post by **TVG** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:34 am

is there a way to use that stuff on mac?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:36 am

Yeah, maybe BT is the way to go. I'll wait 'til I get comments on Ketsui to do the ESPRade & other ones. Someone might need to walk me through seeding a torrent on Linux though.

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:36 am

Thanks for the stage 3 link, GaijinPunch!

The bittorrent thing is a great idea. I'd love to see a complete replay of this game as well.

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:24 am

The vagrant wrote:is there a way to use that stuff on mac?

Azureus is PC, Mac and Linux compatible, and creating a torrent to upload is very easy, using Azureus' "Create A Torrent" option. All you need is the announce URL to send the file and peer data to, and you're set.

Again, if you wish to upload to the tracker, send me a PM and I'll add your shmups screenname to the DB, granting you upload capability. I'll also give you details of how to create and get a torrent running off my tracker.

I do definitely prefer BT to other P2P apps as the download speed you get is determined by the amount of peers sharing and downloading the file, and not by how fast someone's connection is. Plus, a torrent file is only a few KB, while a replay can be anything up to 750MB in size, or bigger. I no longer have the patience to upload such huge videos to my webserver, no matter how fast my connection is

GaijinPunch wrote:If someone can give me some better pointers for Auto Gordian Knot, I don't mind redoing it.

If you're DVD ripping, I found a slightly better way of doing it. I use DVD Decrypter to rip the .vob files off the DVD, and use either FlaskMPEG or VirtualdubMOD to to frameserve to Virtualdub (not MOD) to run a two-pass XviD encode using my own custom settings.

If you wish, I can upload my VDub encode settings for you to use. If you want some examples of my XviD quality, please grab my Bakraid replays off my ST thread.

Nice Ketsui replay btw. I have a 650MB AVI file I downloaded a long time ago off JigsawMan's FTP, which looks similar to what you have. I think Mode7 had the same file, which he encoded to RealMedia.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:19 am

I'm sure everyone has the same Ketsui Replay. Mine are just no DVD. I treid Flask, but the way these things are encoded made flasking it kind of hard.... I could never get the audio to work. That is only 1-pass though. I'll try 2 pass tonight when I sleep. The only bad thing is that some things get 'electrofied' if you didn't notice, and they don't look so bad in the DVD.

Since other people have the Ketsui replay (hopefully rotated properly) I won't bother with making a torrent. I'll mess around with the other replays I have though and maybe get those going.

Oh, yeah -- I tried installing Azereus on my Gentoo box, but it's currently masked with the unstable keyword, so I didn't bother. I'll look for a safer method.

lmn4096 · Post by **lmn4096** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:44 pm

i would love to see a good quality video of ketsui, because the one from Namiki (the one a lot of people already have) is just terrible. the colors are all very strange.

but I'm sure it's hard to record well an arcade at 60fps...

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:19 pm

Follow the link I posted. Look at that, and tell me if it's better or worse. It's only stage 3... 35 megs or so.

lmn4096 · Post by **lmn4096** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:32 pm

Just checked..
it's a little better but far from perfect. the bakraid movie on another hand is very nice. but i suspect it's coming from an emul then converted to xvid.

the ketsui movie could only come from arcade. and I think that why it's hard to rip an rgb output.

Post by **Icarus** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:00 am

In my experience with digital video, I've noticed there are the two factors that contribute to a high quality encode. The first is good source material, and the second is encoding settings.

If you have good source material to work with, then your resulting output will be of high quality. In this case, my Bakraid stuff is of good quality because the source material I used is a direct videofile output using EK-MAME's AVI capture options. I would suspect that the Ketsui replay that is floating around isn't firsthand source material, but secondhand - an encode of the source capture - or maybe even thirdhand, and that is probably why the replay looks a little... funny.

Secondly, the encoding settings used to create the resulting file affect the output quality. It took me a very long time to create the two-pass XviD encode settings I use now, all done through trial-and-error and comparing the XviD tests with older output I've done using the DivX codec (to try and keep the output quality as close to the source material as possible, without bloating filesize). I would suspect the Ketsui source material I have (and what everyone else has) is of low quality encoding settings, although I would have to check the video bitrate to determine that.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:58 am

With Ketsui, the source isn't the greatest in the world. It's grainy, but the colors aren't elecftrofied if you will. Then again, I only did single pass. I'll load up another run (2-pass) while I sleep tonight and see if it gets any better.

chtimi-CLA · Post by **chtimi-CLA** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:33 am

the ketsui replay is up at http://tracker.featheredwings.net/
(you need bittorent)

Trevor spencer · Post by **Trevor spencer** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:17 pm

chtimi wrote:(you need bittorent)

sorry what is bittorent

Trevor spencer · Post by **Trevor spencer** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:31 pm

ahh found it so now i can download

also will we ever be seeing the 650mb version ketsui 2nd loop replay on this site http://tracker.featheredwings.net/
also theres a pro gear 2nd loop replay knocking about 350mb i think will we ever see that on this site too ?

Thanks

Trevor spencer · Post by **Trevor spencer** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:38 pm

maybe Ex_Mosquito could add them on there , he must be sick of me pestering him by now

sorry mate

Devilsheep · Post by **Devilsheep** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:31 pm

That stage 3 replay was orgasmic!

Post by **Icarus** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:06 am

Trevor spencer wrote:ahh found it so now i can download also will we ever be seeing the 650mb version ketsui 2nd loop replay on this site http://tracker.featheredwings.net/
also theres a pro gear 2nd loop replay knocking about 350mb i think will we ever see that on this site too ?

I have both the 650MB Ketsui and the 350MB Progear no Arashi replays, and they were distributed on featheredwings.net a long long time ago. Maybe if demand is high enough, I'll add them to the Tracker.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:14 am

I've got the following that I can rip.

Guwange
ESPRade
Battle Garegga

I'll rip one and jump no Icarus' tracker if that's cool with him. Just need feedback on which would be the most wanted.

Post by **Icarus** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:37 am

GaijinPunch wrote:I'll rip one and jump no Icarus' tracker if that's cool with him. Just need feedback on which would be the most wanted.

That's perfectly okay with me. If you want an upload account on the Tracker to distribute any shmup-related materials, just PM me

I intended the Tracker to be a publicly available resource for the Shmups community anyway. JigsawMan's FTP was brilliant, but there was always the risk of hackers/breakdown/hammering of the resource, which kind of killed the fun the first time his FTP went down a long time ago. I've been using BitTorrent to get my daily anime fansub fix for a long time now, and figured that it could be useful to have a similar resource for shmups replays/OST distro etc. It also saves on webspace/time wasted waiting for an upload to complete/frustration when an upload is corrupted/etc.

The only thing I ask is that uploaders ask for an upload account (since I haven't got round to making time to hack the registration scripting out of phpBB for use on the Tracker yet), and that no warez/ISO/ROMs or other sensitive stuff be distributed on the Tracker (I don't mind shmup OSTs, since I collect them anyway). Other than that, it's free to use

EDIT: oh yeah, before I forget, thank chtimi for uploading the Ketsui torrent

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:08 am

I'd download both the big Ketsui and Progear replays if they were torrented :)

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:56 am

I'll PM you for an account once I get the sucker ripped.... probably this weekend.

chtimi-CLA · Post by **chtimi-CLA** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:40 am

Icarus wrote:
Trevor spencer wrote: I have both the 650MB Ketsui and the 350MB Progear no Arashi replays, and they were distributed on featheredwings.net a long long time ago. Maybe if demand is high enough, I'll add them to the Tracker.

i would be curious to see the progear one, i never got the scoring system