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Trevor spencer wrote:so is this 16.9 in the arcade ?
Nope, arcade is 4:3.
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How is that transition going to work? I suppose if you're playing in 16:9 will you have an advantage because of the larger screen, which is kind of annoying. The reason I never played Deathsmiles 1.1 mode was because I didn't like being at a disadvantage for using a stick, so if I'm at a disadvantage using a 4:3 screen as well I will be a little annoyed.
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drunkninja24 wrote:
Trevor spencer wrote:so is this 16.9 in the arcade ?
Nope, arcade is 4:3.
Perfect Thanks , i take it is also low res ?

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Trevor spencer wrote:
drunkninja24 wrote:
Trevor spencer wrote:so is this 16.9 in the arcade ?
Nope, arcade is 4:3.
Perfect Thanks , i take it is also low res ?

:)
Actually, no. The arcade game was on a Vewlix screen, just in pillarboxed 4:3.
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dmauro wrote:How is that transition going to work? I suppose if you're playing in 16:9 will you have an advantage because of the larger screen, which is kind of annoying. The reason I never played Deathsmiles 1.1 mode was because I didn't like being at a disadvantage for using a stick, so if I'm at a disadvantage using a 4:3 screen as well I will be a little annoyed.
I would guess that they would extend the play field to the left and right. So you'd go from arcade mode being standard to 16:9 mode being easier. This is different from the DS 1.1 mode, where the game is intended to be played with the dual analog, so using a stick is a disadvantage. Using 4:3 would be no different from arcade, and if you have the bigger screen you can make things easier on yourself.
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I don't know guys....I've been totally thrilled, and surprised, by all the shmups the 360 has gotten and the unbelieveable fact that we've gotten Region-Free Cave games, Cave games licensed in the US, and even Cave titles for XBLA! But I have to say...this looks really uninspired. Aside from (maybe) the stone castle monster everything about this game looks idiotic. And not in the bizarre that-only-flies-in-Japanese-games kind of way. This just looks dull and stupid. I hate to say it because I never thought I'd be able to even play Cave titles due to their insanity and now I own every 360 release of theirs thus far (and the accompanying Arcade Sticks)....but this I just don't want to get near. It's like Cave suddenly had a stroke or something.....I think I'd rather play Deadly Premonition. If I'm going to just throw money away that is.
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I agree ZG but I don't think it's fair to say anything until it's tested i real life. Buy, try and love (sell) it...

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I actually ended up modifying my Ketsui SE order that I placed last year, and changing it into a DS2 LE order. With all the coupons and whatnot that were on the Ketsui order, I'm almost paying retail price!

Though I'm still waiting to see what NCS does... now that I know coupons and website funds carry over even if you modify an order, I could do another modify if NCS ends up with the better price...
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dmauro wrote:How is that transition going to work? I suppose if you're playing in 16:9 will you have an advantage because of the larger screen, which is kind of annoying. The reason I never played Deathsmiles 1.1 mode was because I didn't like being at a disadvantage for using a stick, so if I'm at a disadvantage using a 4:3 screen as well I will be a little annoyed.
My guess would be : Arcade mode = 4:3, 360 mode = 16:9
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Zero Gunner wrote:I don't know guys....I've been totally thrilled, and surprised, by all the shmups the 360 has gotten and the unbelieveable fact that we've gotten Region-Free Cave games, Cave games licensed in the US, and even Cave titles for XBLA! But I have to say...this looks really uninspired. Aside from (maybe) the stone castle monster everything about this game looks idiotic. And not in the bizarre that-only-flies-in-Japanese-games kind of way. This just looks dull and stupid. I hate to say it because I never thought I'd be able to even play Cave titles due to their insanity and now I own every 360 release of theirs thus far (and the accompanying Arcade Sticks)....but this I just don't want to get near. It's like Cave suddenly had a stroke or something.....I think I'd rather play Deadly Premonition. If I'm going to just throw money away that is.
Yeah, i'm not buying this. The only reason anyone is even giving this a chance is because it is Cave, and that usually means quality. Thing is, I already have a very good looking, and fun DS game on my 360 already. Why would I want this dog ugly one?
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Do not be fooled by the fugly graphics; DSII is pretty fun and I think most that have played it will agree. I actually enjoy it more than the first game (although I'm not a huge fan of DS to begin with). Visually it's a step back, but it still plays like the Cave we know and trust (fun, deep, endlessly frustrating), so I think most will be pleasantly surprised.
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drunkninja24 wrote:
so is this 16.9 in the arcade

Nope, arcade is 4:3

Perfect Thanks , i take it is also low res ? :)

Actually, no. The arcade game was on a Vewlix screen, just in pillarboxed 4:3.

Ok thanks you have been a great help ;) i wonder what this will look like on my CRT via RGB Scart 480I ? bollocks i expect
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I'm just wondering why, when they did a pretty decent job putting a game together with prerendered graphics, that they had so much trouble replicating that look with on-the-fly renders? It's not even so much the models they use, but the animations just aren't as good, especially for stuff like that reindeer boss (compare to the cow boss of the first game).

Still getting the game, as it -does- look fun to play, and enough people whose opinions I trust say the game is great despite how it looks.
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DC906270 wrote:Great :) but i already know that 90% of this forum will say "oh well, its rubbish" as they are like sheep that way. Who perpetrated the rumour originally that this is pants?
It wasn't me! :)

No, I did play it at the AOU but it was an early build with 2 stages in there (and it was quite crappy at that point).
According EOJ it's great and he's a more than reliable source, so it must have come on quite a bit.
I'm actually quite for it is out of the queinterested to play the port because I've never played the final build of this anywhere.
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Skykid wrote:I'm actually quite for it is out of the queinterested to play the port because I've never played the final build of this anywhere.
My understanding of the situation is that no one has played a final build of DS2 because it still doesn't exist.
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StarCreator wrote:I'm just wondering why, when they did a pretty decent job putting a game together with prerendered graphics, that they had so much trouble replicating that look with on-the-fly renders? It's not even so much the models they use, but the animations just aren't as good, especially for stuff like that reindeer boss (compare to the cow boss of the first game).
I think both games look terrible. They have that ridiculous Chuck E Cheese animatronic look going on.
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StarCreator wrote:
Skykid wrote:I'm actually quite for it is out of the queinterested to play the port because I've never played the final build of this anywhere.
My understanding of the situation is that no one has played a final build of DS2 because it still doesn't exist.
that "final build" is, technically speaking, 4.0
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StarCreator wrote:I'm just wondering why, when they did a pretty decent job putting a game together with prerendered graphics, that they had so much trouble replicating that look with on-the-fly renders? It's not even so much the models they use, but the animations just aren't as good, especially for stuff like that reindeer boss (compare to the cow boss of the first game).
That's what I'm wondering. The only explanation that I can think of, is that the backgrounds being in real-time 3D use up resources that could have been dedicated to the character/enemy models. Cave's new hardware might not be powerful enough to handle everything being in 3D. If that's the case, Cave should use 2D pre-rendered backgrounds next time.
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This looks fantastic! Did the original Deathsmiles come out on the 360, and wil Deathsmiles II X be region free??
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dave4shmups wrote:This looks fantastic! Did the original Deathsmiles come out on the 360, and wil Deathsmiles II X be region free??
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dave4shmups wrote:Did the original Deathsmiles come out on the 360, and wil Deathsmiles II X be region free??
Yes and no.
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New blog post:

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The bottom pics seems to be from a new game mode. Sorry that the pics are huge.
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That is the LE box-art? Hmmm, if all that's included is a OST I'm not so sure why play-asia is charging so much for it.
The bottom pics seems to be from a new game mode. Sorry that the pics are huge.
Really? kinda looks like maps of the stages, but I suppose anything is possible. With all those pastels in the first pic I almost thought that it was Easter (not X-mas)... it just gets weirder and weirder.
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The bottom pics seems to be from a new game mode. Sorry that the pics are huge.
Weird - the backgrounds are from the first game... wonder what it is? It'll be a bonus if some of the original graphics are used in some way. To anyone who may know - what is the general opinion of Japanese players regarding the new 3D graphics. Seems almost everyone here wishes the game was like the original...Regardless, DSII looks kinda awful but I'll be buying it.
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EOJ over at Cave-STG posted that the screens are from a new mode called "Tsukaima race", which is looking to be a race/puzzle game of sorts. He also mentioned that the LE artwork isn't final, but will remain generally the same stylistically. All this info comes from the Cave blog post.
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Geesh, should have noticed that those were from the first game :oops:

Anyone else notice that in the first pic they need to fix the font a bit, maybe just a glitch with spacing the "I" when they converted it to 19:9...

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emphatic wrote:New blog post:

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Deathsmiles 2...X?

There's something pretty offensive about that cover. :|
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There's something pretty offensive about that cover.
Haha, yeah it's brutal.... funny though how Casper already got one boot off like she getting a head start on pedo-lesbo-orgy... :shock:
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I like the cover.
chempop wrote:funny though how Casper already got one boot off like she getting a head start on pedo-lesbo-orgy... :shock:
I think they're all going to gang up on Lei.
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Skykid wrote:There's something pretty offensive about that cover. :|
Yep.

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