XRGB-mini Framemeister

[EvilAsh]

Anybody know where is the best place to sell a Framemeister? The unit I have is mint and only has a few hours of gaming on it. Comes with Euro SNES, Genesis/Master System, Saturn SCARTS. Also component D IN cable. English overlay on remote. Figure I'd check on here since I'm not getting traffic on ebay. I think I may be asking too much.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/181634456502?ss ... 1555.l2649

[pyrotek85]

Anybody know where is the best place to sell a Framemeister? The unit I have is mint and only has a few hours of gaming on it. Comes with Euro SNES, Genesis/Master System, Saturn SCARTS. Also component D IN cable. English overlay on remote. Figure I'd check on here since I'm not getting traffic on ebay. I think I may be asking too much.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/181634456502?ss ... 1555.l2649

Yeah you might be asking too much, Solaris is selling them for about $300. Granted that's not including shipping so that might end up being closer to your price depending on where you live.

[EvilAsh]

OK. I'll have to lower the price. I just figured since I was including all the cables and stuff it would be worth it to someone. Thanks!

[scottmog]

Got an issue with horizontal white lines that movie vertically down on a Japanese Super Famicom.

Currently this is my setup: Super Famicom - scart cable - shinybow switch - scart to jp21 pin - micomsoft framemeister - hdmi to tv

All my cables are from http://www.retrogamingcables.com/ that is a reliable website correct?

[EvilAsh]

I've decided to do an auction. If anyone is interested in a Framemeister or has a friend it's started cheap and has everything you need to start playing. Bid starts at $250. Hopefully I get it sold. Thinking of building a gaming rig and this would help out.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181634585473?ss ... 1555.l2649

[blizzz]

scottmog, how does it look without the switch?

[BuckoA51]

All my cables are from http://www.retrogamingcables.com/ that is a reliable website correct?

Generally, but his older design SNES/SFC cables were not well recieved and lacked shielding, if you bought them a while ago (a year or so ago I believe) that could be at least part of the problem.

[Josh128]

I've decided to do an auction. If anyone is interested in a Framemeister or has a friend it's started cheap and has everything you need to start playing. Bid starts at $250. Hopefully I get it sold. Thinking of building a gaming rig and this would help out.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181634585473?ss ... 1555.l2649

ah crap you changed your mind?

[scottmog]

Ok so more findings about my horizontal lines.

I was testing a single game after I got my shinybox 2x6 in and it happened to my yoshi's island 2. With that game especially when there is brighter type background (which is most of the game) the lines appear. Last night I popped in super metroid and no lines, crystal clear... Then I thought well that game is fairly dark let me try kirby dreamland 3 since that game is sort of bright and again wtf, no lines.

Can I get horizontal lines from only certain carts? Hell I'm guessing I should upload something to youtube to help you out with my diagnosis.

Was thinking about something else...

Super FX 2 games:
Doom
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
Winter Gold

I don't have Doom or Winter Gold, so I'll try to borrow a Yoshi's Island from a friend.

[CkRtech]

scottmog - So as blizzz asked, what about without the switch?

Also - what power supply are you using on your sfc? Original or 3rd party?

[wyvernshill]

I have a quick question, is it better to use a xrgb scart cable with a sync stripper to avoid any sync issues or will this pose other problems for certain consoles ?

I use a SNES, Sega Saturn (both PAL but the snes is Super CIC modded for 50/60hz regionfree) and a PS2 (NTSC).
The snes works perfectly at a sync level of 25, the saturn must have lvl 27 and even then it still craps out, sometimes it just starts to flicker or it introduces some garbage on screen but it always lasts just a second or so then the image comes back and it restarts this again.
Most of the time the saturn plays very nice without any problems.
The PS2 works great in component but not at all in scart (RGB setting in the bios when using scart), the scart works correctly when plugging it in the tv.

Would a sync stripper get rid of those problems ?
I tried the PS2 on scart and it cannot even hold a stable picture in RGB. It just keeps popping in and out no matter what sync level i use.

Would this cable be ok or what other sync stripper would you recommend that is not too expensive :
http://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/mico ... ipper.html

My other non sync stripper XRGB scart cable came from them and while the cable has glue all over the contacts instead of soldering it does work correctly.

[TheShadowRunner]

I tried the PS2 on scart and it cannot even hold a stable picture in RGB. It just keeps popping in and out no matter what sync level i use.

If you're using the official SCPH-10142 cable, modding it is needed, see here.

[wyvernshill]

Thanks TheShadowRunner, i will open up the scart to see if it is the same. I just am not someone who likes to tinker with those cables even if i can use component.
I live in the EU and i'm not sure if US scart vs EU scart is the same for the PS2, so i'm not really comfortable in "killing" the original scart cable i got with the PS2.

But i damn sure want to try it to see the difference ...

[springman]

Good day.

I got my XRGB-Mini a few weeks ago and I've been loving it. Luckily my SFC and MD1 RGB cables from http://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk didn't fail on me and the picture quality is astonishing on my plasma big screen.

One issue on my Saturn is bugging me though. Finally a few days ago I got a Saturn RGB cable from an unknown source in Hong Kong. The cable was actually quite fine; the shipping was great as well. My Saturn, however, randomly gives this:



A short clip:
View My Video

It DOES NOT happen all the time, and it comes up very randomly with no specific pattern. It seems to me it is my Saturn, as THE SAME THING HAPPENS EVEN I USE THE COMPOSITE AV CORD.

Some details:
Mine's a white NTSC-J Saturn.
Game in play is KOF'97, though game doesn't matter. It happens in any game, any time, randomly.
The flashing mainly comes up from the right and just scans through the screen quickly as shown in the clip.
Doesn't seem to be special scenes or resolution changes or flashes or colors or my moves that cause it. Too random.
It may happen every 10 seconds for a couple of times, or may not even come up at all for like 20, 30 minutes.
Both RGB and composite connections from my Saturn to the Framemeister have the same issue.
As mentioned my SFC and MD1 RGB cables from http://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk work perfectly. Sync level stays at 0 (anything higher gives distorted and flashy images); any resolution and settings run well.
This unknown Saturn RGB cable, however, needs sync level between 3 to 16, else no display at all. So everytime I switch to my Saturn I need to get back to the safety mode and start setting over again. (PROFILE PLS!)

Please help show me some light ... thanks so much! I've been going through this thread all the way to page 153 and am still going ...

Fred

[plc268]

Oh wow I'm really pleased to read this! Thank you so much!

Well I'm off to make my order!

One last question, could anybody recommend me a power supply to use?

You really don't need anything special to power the Framemeister. I know the power supply that comes with it is 5V 2.4A (or 2.5A, can't remember), but in my testing, I never saw it draw even close to that number. But anyway, I power mine using a USB cord. Yup, a USB cord. The plug is the same size as the plug that's used to charge the PSP, and there's plenty of aftermarket USB PSP charging cables, like the one here:

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-PlayStation3 ... +usb+power

Then, I plug that into the framemeister and then into a USB charger. You can use something like an ipad charger or similar. I use a 5 port USB power charger that outputs 8A, and it supplies power to a bunch of other stuff that requires a simple 5V (like my network switch, usb wii sensor bar, wii u pad cradle, etc).

This is the charger I'm using:
http://www.amazon.com/Desktop-Charger-P ... =anker+40w

I've been running this setup for several months now, and have had zero issues. It really cuts down on power adapter clutter by just using one power supply to feed power to everything.

[BuckoA51]

One issue on my Saturn is bugging me though. Finally a few days ago I got a Saturn RGB cable from an unknown source in Hong Kong. The cable was actually quite fine; the shipping was great as well. My Saturn, however, randomly gives this:

Try a clean (composite) sync cable, that's working well for me on my white Model 2 Saturn.

[brandonp514]

Not sure if this question had been asked before but is there a downside to having a bigger screen with the mini? I was looking at a 1080p plasma and the sweet spot in price is for a 60 inch. Would that be too big or would it still scale the image perfectly fine? Otherwise I'd be looking at a 51 inch. Thanks.

[plc268]

The screen size doesn't really make a difference. The resolution stays the same. The only difference is that the pixels get larger on larger screens. It'll scale the exact same.

Screen size is really more about how far you plan to sit from the display itself. Larger screens are for larger rooms with further sitting distance.

[brandonp514]

I was watching a YouTube review of the mini and heard one guy say the picture loses its sharpness or something like that on bigger screens. Figured I'd ask and see if anybody had that happen to them. I figure bigger is better. I want to use the TV for other things as well too. I should be farther back like in a living room setting for now. I even have extension cords for all my controllers so they'll reach, lol.

[gutsmanheavy]

I was watching a YouTube review of the mini and heard one guy say the picture loses its sharpness or something like that on bigger screens. Figured I'd ask and see if anybody had that happen to them.

That is correct, it's due to pixel density. Basically the larger the screen without increasing the resolution the worse it will look. I wouldn't worry about it, the "wow factor" of a large screen offsets the slight image quality drop.

[scottmog]

scottmog, how does it look without the switch?

scottmog - So as blizzz asked, what about without the switch?
Also - what power supply are you using on your sfc? Original or 3rd party?

Power supply is aftermarket, how would I go about getting a real power supply for my japanese super famicom when I am in north america. Or should I ask, how would I plug something like that in without a step down converter?

Wanted to do some thorough testing before I came back. So this is what I have found.
-Using the hdmi selector (no change, video quality is fine either way)
-Using the shinybow selector (no change, video quality is fine either way)
-Using composite to the front of the framemeister, all issues disappear
-Use S Video to the front of the framemeister, all issues disappear

Games causing problems:
Yoshis Island, white horizontal bars moving vertically down
Kirbys Dream Land, white horizontal bars moving vertically down
Castlevania Dracula X, left side brighter then the right side. Significantly more visible line in the middle of the screen when fading in and out in a full black screen

One question I have is VERY VERY important to me. What is the difference between "composite video + sync" and "CSYNC" cables. Because my super famicom will only work with the CSYNC cables with the CV + Sync the image will turn off and on while playing and sometimes will not show at all.

Purchased from here: http://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/supe ... -sale.html

Any help would be much appreciated.

[tacoguy64]

Got my cable in the mail today from retrogamingcables.com and finally got to see my genesis games in full rgb glory. I couldn't believe how much of a difference it has made from composite. It really was like night and day.

Now im just left wondering what are the best setting for the xrgb mini? I have messed around a bit but dont really know what im doing so I would appreciate any help i can get.

[ApolloBoy]

Power supply is aftermarket, how would I go about getting a real power supply for my japanese super famicom when I am in north america. Or should I ask, how would I plug something like that in without a step down converter?

You don't need a converter unless you're one of those ridiculously paranoid types, the Japanese PSU will work perfectly fine straight into the wall. And if you are the paranoid type, just use a model 1 Genesis PSU instead of wasting money on a voltage converter.

Now im just left wondering what are the best setting for the xrgb mini? I have messed around a bit but dont really know what im doing so I would appreciate any help i can get.

It really depends on what TV you have, asking what the "best" settings are for the Framemeister is a pretty subjective question.

[scottmog]

Power supply is aftermarket, how would I go about getting a real power supply for my japanese super famicom when I am in north america. Or should I ask, how would I plug something like that in without a step down converter?

You don't need a converter unless you're one of those ridiculously paranoid types, the Japanese PSU will work perfectly fine straight into the wall. And if you are the paranoid type, just use a model 1 Genesis PSU instead of wasting money on a voltage converter.

Genuine Nintendo Hvc-002 will be the correct plug for me?

[tacoguy64]

Yeah i thought that was the case but was hoping i could get some help. I mean i already messed with it a little and got it looking good but i have a feeling it can look better.

[BuckoA51]

One question I have is VERY VERY important to me. What is the difference between "composite video + sync" and "CSYNC" cables. Because my super famicom will only work with the CSYNC cables with the CV + Sync the image will turn off and on while playing and sometimes will not show at all.

It's composite video AS sync http://www.videogameperfection.com/2011 ... #synctypes

[Playcubeman]

Hello I am a little new French. I have a Super Famicom and PAL TV 4K samsung hu7500. I want to buy mini xrgb.
I want to know if the mini is compatible xrgb for 4K TV?
The RGB cable behind the Super Nintendo pal happening with the xrgb mini?
Thank you.

[scottmog]

Can I run a Genuine Nintendo Hvc-002 straight to the wall in the USA? Or should I get a step down block since I am getting the waves?

[blizzz]

Some Saturn × Framemeister porn.

Spoiler

[Galgomite]

Hello I am a little new French. I have a Super Famicom and PAL TV 4K samsung hu7500. I want to buy mini xrgb.
I want to know if the mini is compatible xrgb for 4K TV?
The RGB cable behind the Super Nintendo pal happening with the xrgb mini?
Thank you.

Hello and welcome. Yes, the XRGB Mini will work with PAL sources and your 4K TV. The Mini will output 1080p at most however, and you should expect at least 55ms of lag.