CAVE Shooting Collection X360

[monouchi]

But locked to an account, so you cannot share the DLC disc file?

[genetik]

Won't that only work if you're online on your own 360 though?

But locked to an account, so you cannot share the DLC disc file?

I mentioned this a couple of pages back, but the DLC on the add-on disc is totally license free. It's not tied to your account like standard DLC. Someone could technically share them online to everyone.....but obviously, at that point it just becomes piracy.

[monouchi]

I mentioned this a couple of pages back, but the DLC on the add-on disc is totally license free. It's not tied to your account like standard DLC. Someone could technically share them online to everyone.....but obviously, at that point it just becomes piracy.

Thanks.
Well, then its only to wait for it to appear online.
I have all the regular DLCs but to have the license free file would be nice for the future.

[bcass]

I mentioned this a couple of pages back, but the DLC on the add-on disc is totally license free. It's not tied to your account like standard DLC.

How did you test this?

[DQuick]

I have installed the MMP Matsuri DLC to a thumbdrive on my Japanese 360 and then copied the data onto my PAL 360. I then removed the thumbdrive and accessed the DLC using a first print copy of the game and a general profile I setup just to see if the disc or profile mattered. Seems to work without a hitch.

Better sell those first print codes before the DLC is everywhere for free... Given the issues the DLC has installing off disc it actually seems easier to manage and install from thumbdrive as it is nicely organised into themes, pics, and game content. Makes the exclusivity of the DLC disc pointless.

[Skykid]

But locked to an account, so you cannot share the DLC disc file?

I mentioned this a couple of pages back, but the DLC on the add-on disc is totally license free. It's not tied to your account like standard DLC. Someone could technically share them online to everyone.....but obviously, at that point it just becomes piracy.

Absolutely positively going to happen. Collection's inflated value falls shortly thereafter.

It wouldn't qualify as piracy for the DLC included as pack-ins for "zomg 1st print only never to be available again!" codes, since technically they're freebies - just for the stuff that was sold additionally via XBL (and continues to be up for sale.)

[bcass]

I have installed the MMP Matsuri DLC to a thumbdrive on my Japanese 360 and then copied the data onto my PAL 360. I then removed the thumbdrive and accessed the DLC using a first print copy of the game and a general profile I setup just to see if the disc or profile mattered. Seems to work without a hitch.

Better sell those first print codes before the DLC is everywhere for free... Given the issues the DLC has installing off disc it actually seems easier to manage and install from thumbdrive as it is nicely organised into themes, pics, and game content. Makes the exclusivity of the DLC disc pointless.

Can you use the DLC copied to the PAL system offline?

[DQuick]

Can you use the DLC copied to the PAL system offline?

Yes, I have now tried the MMP Matsuri DLC and the Futari 1.01 DLC on my PAL console while offline.

It wouldn't qualify as piracy for the DLC included as pack-ins for "zomg 1st print only never to be available again!" codes, since technically they're freebies - just for the stuff that was sold additionally via XBL (and continues to be up for sale.)

Piracy has nothing to do with the original price of the content or the fact it was bundled with a particular print run at no extra charge. Unless Cave is authorising this for public distribution it is piracy to distribute without authorisation.

[bcass]

Interesting. So there's no usage rights associated with the DLCs. Given that the title updates in the links above also have no usage rights associated with them, the DLC disc in this new collection is rendered pretty redundant.

[brentsg]

Interesting. So there's no usage rights associated with the DLCs. Given that the title updates in the links above also have no usage rights associated with them, the DLC disc in this new collection is rendered pretty redundant.

That's like saying music CDs have no usage rights because they aren't protected like Blu-rays.

Apple removed DRM from music, does that mean its all public domain now?

[bcass]

No, don't be silly. I'm talking from the stand point of someone who already owns all the original games and pre-order DLC. The above information simply means that people no longer have to be super-paranoid about Xbox Live disappearing because it's easy enough to backup the DLC and title updates.

[DQuick]

Well it's easy to make a copy if you have a copy. This doesn't make it easy to distribute online unless you have a modded console. if you have a modded console then license rights were never an issue.

[Skykid]

It wouldn't qualify as piracy for the DLC included as pack-ins for "zomg 1st print only never to be available again!" codes, since technically they're freebies - just for the stuff that was sold additionally via XBL (and continues to be up for sale.)

Piracy has nothing to do with the original price of the content or the fact it was bundled with a particular print run at no extra charge. Unless Cave is authorising this for public distribution it is piracy to distribute without authorisation.

I guess so.

But it's going to happen anyway.

[brentsg]

No, don't be silly. I'm talking from the stand point of someone who already owns all the original games and pre-order DLC. The above information simply means that people no longer have to be super-paranoid about Xbox Live disappearing because it's easy enough to backup the DLC and title updates.

Fair enough..

[Soft Otaku]

I know the dvds say they are region 2, but they play fine in any dvd player I have tried them in. They even work in my ps3. Can anyone else confirm this?

Maybe Cave labeled them but forgot to actually implement the region code.

Thanks for that info. I never bothered to try because most of my DVD players are Region 2 anyway. I'll check and update the video description.

[chronic1]

I'm pretty CAVE illiterate (and fully Nihongo illiterate). I bought DDP & Ibara on PCB, and decided it was way more economical to pick up a J360 & this collection to figure out what I like enough to drop some bones on the actual boards. Given that background, I have a few very basic questions...sorry if they've already been covered.

• If I provide screenshots of the discs, could someone label which games they are?
• Is there a step-by-step guide to installing the DLC or a translation of the slip included with the collection?

[DQuick]

I'm pretty CAVE illiterate (and fully Nihongo illiterate). I bought DDP & Ibara on PCB, and decided it was way more economical to pick up a J360 & this collection to figure out what I like enough to drop some bones on the actual boards. Given that background, I have a few very basic questions...sorry if they've already been covered.

• If I provide screenshots of the discs, could someone label which games they are?
• Is there a step-by-step guide to installing the DLC or a translation of the slip included with the collection?

It's pretty easy to identify the discs. Deathsmiles and Deathsmiles II are labeled, same case has Mushihimesama and Mushihimesama Futari. Futari is the one with the boy and blue dragon on the disc. Case 2 has Espgaluda 2 (which is labeled), DFK and DFK Black label (which says black label on it), Akai Katana and the MMP Pink Sweets disc. Akai Katana has a woman on the disc with a Katana strapped to her. MMP disc looks more commical.

Install disc is pretty simple. Select the items you want, and click the bar at the top to install. It is more painful to identify the DLC than it is to identify the discs. I'd recommend systematically installing the DLC a few at a time as the installer doesn't seem to work properly and if you select all some will most likely be missed.

[finisherr]

Just picked up Muchi and Pink Sweets from Video Games New York. Weirdest shooters I've ever played.