Official Muchi-Muchi Pork! [Cave 2007] thread

Post by **Dave_K.** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:18 pm

I know there is a music CD released with the kit, not sure if its the complete OST.

hermosaguy · Post by **hermosaguy** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:42 pm

Dave_K. wrote:I know there is a music CD released with the kit, not sure if its the complete OST.

The 'music' on there was just that promo jingle that is about 60 seconds in length...I was hoping for more thinking I got a bad burn of it, but thats all it was supposed to be.

rtw · Post by **rtw** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:47 pm

Noticed that sometimes you will get a pork gold without
using the lard attack. Needless to say if you miss it
your chain is toast.

And sometimes you get the pork gold but you can't
suck it in...

Anyone know what is going on ?

rtw

hermosaguy · Post by **hermosaguy** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:50 pm

rtw wrote:Noticed that sometimes you will get a pork gold without
using the lard attack. Needless to say if you miss it
your chain is toast.

And sometimes you get the pork gold but you can't
suck it in...

Anyone know what is going on ?

rtw

Yeah, I've noticed that at some enemy on the right side of the screen before the first boss and some other enemies as well. I think its just to make sure the player is paying attention. I won't have a problem sucking in the pork gold, but only if I get hit while there is pork gold on the screen, then try to suck it in when I respawn it won't work for me.

ill6 · Post by **ill6** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:16 pm

Must have missed something in the recent Cave activity - are all MMP boards are special order from Cave?

Is the implication that they are running out as has been suggested or that Cave are taking this approach more now? I recall that happening with IBL too (IIRC?)... Someone said that you can still buy IBL; is this true and if so is this the current Cave strategy on lower popularity games???

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:26 pm

Any of the Akiba shops will order an MMP kit for you...including Fujita, who also have IBL kits. The consensus on the print run is that it's somewhat small... closer to Pink Sweets rather than Ibara (unfortunately).

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:28 pm

rtw wrote:Noticed that sometimes you will get a pork gold without
using the lard attack. Needless to say if you miss it
your chain is toast.

That's because the base medal system is typical Raizing, where medals and Shot powerups are released for every set amount of aerial enemies destroyed using the Shot. Lard Attack just gives you a crapload more medals.

How much is the kit going for,, by the way? Still 140k?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:30 pm

How much is the kit going for,, by the way? Still 140k?

Something like that. Should be chump change for someone based in the UK.

ill6 · Post by **ill6** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:43 am

GaijinPunch wrote:Any of the Akiba shops will order an MMP kit for you...including Fujita, who also have IBL kits. The consensus on the print run is that it's somewhat small... closer to Pink Sweets rather than Ibara (unfortunately).

So presumably MMP kits will be available for a while -- Cave can just keep printing another!

What happened to IBL's limited print run?

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:52 am

ill6 wrote: So presumably MMP kits will be available for a while -- Cave can just keep printing another!

Maybe, but don't expect them to drop the price much, if at all. If it's special order only now, then they'll keep the price stable. It'll probably just be available for order until they run out of art/instruction sets. It seems Cave has caught on to the collectors and they now know the best way to turn a profit on the super-niche games like MMP.

What happened to IBL's limited print run?

It's still limited (the 100 only thing is a huge myth though, all indications are that there were at least 200 of these printed, probably more), but apparently they still have some kits left to sell.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:07 am

Icarus wrote:
That's because the base medal system is typical Raizing, where medals and Shot powerups are released for every set amount of aerial enemies destroyed using the Shot.

It doesn't have anything to do with destroying a certain amount of aerial enemies with the shot. Certain enemies just drop them. They drop in the same spots each time you play. Once you learn where they drop, it becomes much easier, as you anticipate them and can thus integrate them into your stage pattern. Just tap B then quickly switch to A to suck it in.

I noticed something weird the other day - if you die just as you're sucking in some medals, sometimes all the medals burst out from your ship and get sucked out of the screen super fast. It looks pretty cool, but of course it kills your chain and your score, so it's not something you want to happen. It's only happened like 2 times for me. The timing has to be perfect.

Post by **Icarus** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:46 pm

EOJ wrote:It doesn't have anything to do with destroying a certain amount of aerial enemies with the shot. Certain enemies just drop them. They drop in the same spots each time you play. Once you learn where they drop, it becomes much easier, as you anticipate them and can thus integrate them into your stage pattern. Just tap B then quickly switch to A to suck it in.

Is it exactly the same enemy?

EOJ wrote:Maybe, but don't expect them to drop the price much, if at all. If it's special order only now, then they'll keep the price stable. It'll probably just be available for order until they run out of art/instruction sets. It seems Cave has caught on to the collectors and they now know the best way to turn a profit on the super-niche games like MMP.

Haha, that's dirty. Makes me wish I was more interested in traditional Cave than Cazing.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:06 pm

Icarus wrote:
Is it exactly the same enemy?

Yes, it appears so. To test, I have played through the the game using only the shot, and not touching the lard attack. The pork gold comes in the same sections of the levels every time, from the same enemies. So it does not matter if you use shot, lard, or whatever.

Truth be told, there does appear to be some randomness in some parts. For example, the second stage 5 midboss. Sometimes you destroy its bombs and one of them will pop out a pork gold, other times you don't get one.

ill6 · Post by **ill6** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:13 pm

EOJ wrote:
What happened to IBL's limited print run?
It's still limited (the 100 only thing is a huge myth though, all indications are that there were at least 200 of these printed, probably more), but apparently they still have some kits left to sell.

Not that I doubt you but what is your source of info this?

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:11 am

ill6 wrote:
EOJ wrote:
What happened to IBL's limited print run?
It's still limited (the 100 only thing is a huge myth though, all indications are that there were at least 200 of these printed, probably more), but apparently they still have some kits left to sell.
Not that I doubt you but what is your source of info this?

-Two PCB retailers told me there was more than 1 print of IBL.
-Some IB- Serials on the PCBs go over 200.
-Some PCBs have different serials entirely (My IBL's serial is CA-71801), showing they used some other boards and programmed them with IBL later.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:33 am

Wonderful news: a MMP soundtrack has been announced, and it will come packed with a Superplay DVD! The DVD will have a 2-ALL clear with Rafute and other vids. Kick ass. Here's the link:

http://tencho.cave.shop-pro.jp/?eid=98658

Can't wait to order this.

The price/date and other details will be announced soon.

Also, a Guwange/Esprade soundtrack will be released.

PS- more people should buy this game. It's pretty much Yagawa's best game ever.

rtw · Post by **rtw** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:30 am

EOJ wrote:Wonderful news: a MMP soundtrack has been announced, and it will come packed with a Superplay DVD! The DVD will have a 2-ALL clear with Rafute and other vids. Kick ass. Here's the link:

http://tencho.cave.shop-pro.jp/?eid=98658

Can't wait to order this. The price/date and other details will be announced soon.

Also, a Guwange/Esprade soundtrack will be released.

PS- more people should buy this game. It's pretty much Yagawa's best game ever.

Fantastic news EOJ

And I agree this game is fantastic

rtw

Geezer · Post by **Geezer** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:48 pm

EOJ wrote:Also, a Guwange/Esprade soundtrack will be released

Brilliant

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:24 pm

Geezer wrote:
EOJ wrote:Also, a Guwange/Esprade soundtrack will be released
Brilliant

Wait 'til you see the cover. New Inoue Illustration.

Geezer · Post by **Geezer** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:41 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:Wait 'til you see the cover. New Inoue Illustration.

Looks great

Pda · Post by **Pda** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:01 pm

Now the posters to go along this OST,and we can stop thinking about X-mas presents.

Radiant · Post by **Radiant** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:45 pm

cool, but i also would love to see a PS Superplay DVD

any word on the release date?

markedkiller78 · Post by **markedkiller78** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:14 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:
How much is the kit going for,, by the way? Still 140k?
Something like that. Should be chump change for someone based in the UK.

It's still £630 + shipping & fees

Like many others I was hoping for a price drop on this some time soon, but it's not happening

I'll be buying the Superplay DVD. I think I'll crack straight after buying it.

They have re-released a new print run of Pink Sweets at 100k (or some NOS kits?) They might do the same with MMP?

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:01 pm

Pink Sweets at Fujita is NOS. Just a couple kits afaik.
If anyone wants a cheap MMP kit, buy this one for 93,000 yen (art/box are all brand new - PCB is used and b/w instructions are copied):

http://page18.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w16240252

It's been up twice with no bids!

Post by **Dave_K.** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:28 pm

EOJ wrote:and b/w instructions are copied

The dip sheet is original, Cave has been making simple copies of it for the all their latest kits. My Pink Sweets and Espgaluda II kits came with the same copy looking b/w dip sheet.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:35 pm

Dave_K. wrote:
EOJ wrote:and b/w instructions are copied
The dip sheet is original, Cave has been making simple copies of it for the all their latest kits. My Pink Sweets and Espgaluda II kits came with the same copy looking b/w dip sheet.

Wrong: they state in the auction the dip sheet is copied, and not original. My MMP dip sheet is not copied. Actually none of mine are copied except Mushi, but ALL Mushi dip sheets are copied. Sorry to hear you got copied sheets, but this is not normal.

Also, I don't know why you claim Cave is making copies for "all their latest kits", when, correct me if I'm wrong, you do not have any of their recent kits (Mushi Futari, MMP, Deathsmiles).

Post by **Dave_K.** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:09 am

EOJ wrote:
Dave_K. wrote:
EOJ wrote:and b/w instructions are copied
The dip sheet is original, Cave has been making simple copies of it for the all their latest kits. My Pink Sweets and Espgaluda II kits came with the same copy looking b/w dip sheet.
Wrong: they state in the auction the dip sheet is copied, and not original. My MMP dip sheet is not copied. Actually none of mine are copied except Mushi, but ALL Mushi dip sheets are copied. Sorry to hear you got copied sheets, but this is not normal.

Sorry, I had bought new kits from Fujita and was unaware there is an underground market for dip sheets, so they must have switched them on me. Poor me.

Please post a pic of your glossy printed dip sheets.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:05 am

Dave_K. wrote: Please post a pic of your glossy printed dip sheets.

They aren't glossy, they're matte. It's pretty easy to tell the difference between a photocopied dip sheet (Mushihimesama) and one that is not (any SH3 game besides Mushihimesama). Just put them next to each other. Different ink, different paper, different feel.

Not sure why you equate glossy with authentic, but whatever floats your boat.

markedkiller78 · Post by **markedkiller78** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:06 am

EOJ wrote:Pink Sweets at Fujita is NOS. Just a couple kits afaik.
If anyone wants a cheap MMP kit, buy this one for 93,000 yen (art/box are all brand new - PCB is used and b/w instructions are copied):

http://page18.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w16240252

It's been up twice with no bids!

Thanks EOJ, Looks like Futari can wait

markedkiller78 · Post by **markedkiller78** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:13 am

Sorry to ask a retarded question, but it says 1 x pop in the translation, but it's not in the pic. Is the Pop included?