Shooting Game Tournament 2007 (Themes/Game Selection Thread)

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:31 pm

That doesn't answer my question though =/

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:08 am

shoe-sama wrote:The only game that qualifies for hidden gem week is Gunbird 2.

Gem: yes
hidden: no

Shouldn´t stop us from playing it anyway...

And just want to state that Twiddle´s avatar is kinda freaking me out (I could be hunted by that image when having some bad dreams...)

shoe-sama · Post by **shoe-sama** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:59 am

Super Laydock wrote:
shoe-sama wrote:The only game that qualifies for hidden gem week is Gunbird 2.
Gem: yes
hidden: no

Shouldn´t stop us from playing it anyway...

And just want to state that Twiddle´s avatar is kinda freaking me out (I could be hunted by that image when having some bad dreams...)

Find another game that has hidden gems.

Post by **Shatterhand** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:12 pm

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=16529

this is worrying me, the downtime will probably be right up when the game to be played is going to be announced.

We should set up a temporary forum somewhere to keep on touch.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:15 pm

I got a hands on the agreed shortlist for Hidden Gem Week!

When the downtime is over, the game selection will be:

[ ] Gun Frontier
[ ] Air Buster
[ ] Boogie Wings
[ ] Kingdom Grandprix
[ ] Trigon

This is going to be as great a week as Darius Gaiden

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:31 pm

I vote Kingdom Grandprix

Enhasa · Post by **Enhasa** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:40 pm

You should take Gun Frontier (Taito) off that fake list to make it look more convincing.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:42 pm

You can't get any more convincing than that.

There is such a thing as overkill.

Enhasa · Post by **Enhasa** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:00 pm

You can't get more convincing than two Taito weeks in a row?

Although I didn't say anything about Trigon and Konami the first time.

ED-057 · Post by **ED-057** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:30 am

I like Air Buster but... doesn't it have infinite boss milking? I seem to remember checking this last year (on the TG16 version at least)

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:20 am

Get Turbo Force on that shortlist and I promise I'll vote for it.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:23 am

I think playing Turbo Force for score might make me hate it. Bad idea.

Hidden gem week should just be retitled NMK week.

#1 for list: Thunder Dragon 2

-Solid scoring elements.
-Challenging.
-Good.
-Announcer in the fine STGT tradition of Blazing Star, Batrider and Air Gallet. People will love it for this alone.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:25 am

GigaWing, Gunbird 2, Battle Garegga, DoDonpachi (Chosen in '05), Batsugun Special, Mars Matrix (Confused counter stop), Brave Blade, G-Darius

I know you're busy playing lots of bad non-hidden gems, DJI, but thinking ahead to the better week:

-should drop Gunbird 2 and add Strikers II or 99. I think a Strikers has a better chance (5%) and are generally the favored Psikyo series.

-ESP Ra.De. in place of DoDonPachi. PLEASE ! It's "famous" by the standard any other game here would be and has a better scoring system for beginners, more free form/less memorization-based. Maybe you've already planned this. If so, good thinking.

-Just drop Mars Matrix. Nearly as memorization-based as DDP anyways.

-Brave Blade?

-G-Darius, disqualified.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:30 am

VASARA 2!

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:31 am

XII Stag

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:33 am

Brave Blade has awesome slowdown in MAME, currently.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:04 am

Rob wrote:XII Stag

you know, i really like it

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:06 am

If it was in MAME I think it'd be decent for hidden gem.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:07 am

Twiddle wrote:Brave Blade has awesome slowdown in MAME, currently.

use Zin'c!

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:43 am

Air Buster is listed in the first post twice.

I'm wondering about the negative buzz over Bio-Hazard Battle. I haven't played it much, so I can't say, but Kiken said that it's hard, and I usually trust his opinion. Retro Core, who I don't trust nearly as much as Kiken, also said the game is hard.

If Varth ends up on the voting list, I will probably vote for it. I have a home version of it in CCC2. This time around, if the game is only playable by pirating, I won't play it. I felt I couldn't put my all into Viper Phase 1 because of that.

Enhasa · Post by **Enhasa** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:47 am

About Famous Manic week (and Hidden Gems while we're at it), I agree with Rob. Mainly I really don't want to play DDP. Too bad Guwange and Batrider are disqualified too.

This would be something like my ideal list:
Giga Wing, Strikers 2, Battle Garegga, Dangun Feveron, ESP Ra.De.

In addition to Rob's points, Batsugun is currently emulated shitty in MAME. I threw Dangun in there because it's Cave, and with the fuss over Progear they could use two chances here. Also, Dangun doesn't feel much like a traditional Cave game, so there's less chance of splitting the vote. (Actually, it would be great if they split the vote just so GP could cry about it.)

P_HAT wrote:use Zin'c!

MAME32++ also uses the PS plugins. They help a lot, but not all of us have fast computers. They are still unplayable for me.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:51 am

V-V - 1 (no sound)

Is no sound really a problem? Going over the list it is definitely one of the best few options.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:53 am

I can't play anything without sound. Personal preference.

P_HAT · Post by **P_HAT** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:11 am

Twiddle wrote:I can't play anything without sound. Personal preference.

Put some Melt-Banana into winamp/footbar/etc.

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:10 pm

BrianC wrote:I'm wondering about the negative buzz over Bio-Hazard Battle. I haven't played it much, so I can't say, but Kiken said that it's hard, and I usually trust his opinion. Retro Core, who I don't trust nearly as much as Kiken, also said the game is hard.

I cleared it within a week, so it can't really be all that hard. It's a fine game, though. For comparisons sake: I haven't cleared ESPGaluda yet despite putting more time into it. And that game is generally considered to be easy, no?

On the other hand: It could just be that the games offer very different types of challenge and that one suits me better than the other.

stanski · Post by **stanski** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:52 pm

Enhasa: we are voting DDP if it is in famous manic week.

Enhasa · Post by **Enhasa** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:32 pm

stanski wrote:Enhasa: we are voting DDP if it is in famous manic week.

Maybe we will all mutiny and vote Giga Wing!

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:34 pm

P_HAT wrote:
Twiddle wrote:I can't play anything without sound. Personal preference.
Put some Melt-Banana into winamp/footbar/etc.

This is a fine suggestion (Melt-Banana and Foo[t]bar). Finding good music/game combinations is at least a third of the fun.

BHB is easy. Lots of extends. Unless a Mega Play version is harder or something? Never tried it.

maxi · Post by **maxi** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:05 am

Twiddle wrote:I got a hands on the agreed shortlist for Hidden Gem Week!

When the downtime is over, the game selection will be:

[ ] Gun Frontier
[ ] Air Buster
[ ] Boogie Wings
[ ] Kingdom Grandprix
[ ] Trigon

This is going to be as great a week as Darius Gaiden

Boogie Wings now!
But Daioh must be in there too.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:18 am

maxi wrote: Boogie Wings now!

Why?