The beginning of shmups on ps3 Soldner-X

Antic · Post by **Antic** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:16 am

sideshow wrote:No its not worth it to get a PS3 just for this game but it would be worth it if Gradius VI came our for the PS3 and it was made by treasure.

True.

Post by **Ghegs** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:18 am

I had a chance to try out the PS3 version and can say that it doesn't improve upon the PC version nearly enough. The weapons still feel weak and many times I took damage without a clue as to what hit me.

Strider77 · Post by **Strider77** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:59 am

I actually like this game alot for 10 bucks.

invzim · Post by **invzim** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:41 pm

Does it support 4:3, or is it widescreen only?

antron · Post by **antron** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:28 pm

prrole wrote:Does it support 4:3, or is it widescreen only?

it will run in 4:3 but is letterboxed and cuts some of the sides (including a bit of the score)

hovis · Post by **hovis** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:32 pm

I'm not really a big fan of horizontal shmups, i prefer vertical ones mainly because they tend to have more stuff going on (based on what games i've played anyways). Having said that though because you can share games on the PSN between 5 people, me and some friends went in for $2 each with this game. First impressions are that the graphics are really nice, co-op is appreciated and that there's actually a lot of stuff happening on screen which is appreciated. Usually horizontal shmups bore me to be honest but this is pretty action packed which i like.

Having said that though no console is worth buying for 1 game, ever. If you have a PS3 though i think this is worth checking out, especially if you do a gameshare which makes it mega cheap.

sideshow · Post by **sideshow** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:57 pm

Its cool that the developers implemented trophy support. Well worth 10 dollars.

MadScientist · Post by **MadScientist** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:29 pm

Getting the hang of Level 2 now... Still need to figure out how to take out the 2nd boss quicker.

Anybody else on here high up the rankings? I'm jacklum (currently 6th).

http://www.soldner-x.com/index.php?opti ... &Itemid=43

Matsunaga · Post by **Matsunaga** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:55 am

I'm still unsure about his game.. At first I liked it, then I got to the second level and got crushed a few times. After some practice, the second level got a lot easier, but then came the 3rd level's wall of asteroids, which is pretty damn annoying. I got through there, and found that the second half of 3 is just like 2. The first 3 bosses are all pretty mediocre, and not fun. I was hoping the 4th and final level would be good, but I was wrong. I won't even try to explain how ridiculous it is. This game requires you to memorize every second of every level, which is tough considering how long these levels are. It's also a lot more about dodging walls and rocks than bullets, as there isn't any type of bullet pattern to be found. All that being said, I don't regret paying $10 for it, I've paid a lot more for worse games. I'll be interested to see how their next game turns out, I think there's some potential here.

MadScientist · Post by **MadScientist** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:06 am

The beam weapon is actually pretty useful against the asteroids.

By the way, the 4th level isn't the final level. If you find 4 (of 5) hidden keys from each of the first 4 levels, you'll unlock the 5th level. If parts of the previous levels annoyed you, this level might just drive you crazy... lots of 'death bombs' (instant kill bombs - even if you have a shield!) and 'weapon bombs' (Parodius style remove all your power ups - fun!). The music in level 5 is awesome though.

Matsunaga · Post by **Matsunaga** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:26 pm

Great, I need one more key for that..

soniq-man · Post by **soniq-man** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:08 pm

MadScientist wrote:The music in level 5 is awesome though.

*shameless plug*

Get the Orginal Soundtrack Complete Edition from Play Asia.

*/shameless plug*

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:33 pm

soniq-man wrote:
MadScientist wrote:The music in level 5 is awesome though.
*shameless plug*

Get the Orginal Soundtrack Complete Edition from Play Asia.

*/shameless plug*

My first, and only, motivational poster

Udderdude · Post by **Udderdude** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:28 pm

The Coop wrote:
soniq-man wrote:
MadScientist wrote:The music in level 5 is awesome though.
*shameless plug*

Get the Orginal Soundtrack Complete Edition from Play Asia.

*/shameless plug*
My first, and only, motivational poster

LOOK AT ME POST LINKS TO MY SHMUP IN THIS OTHER SHMUP'S TOPIC LOL

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http://rydia.net/udder/prog/xopblack/

P.S. IT'S FREE, EXCEPT YOU HAVE TO GIVE ME A HANDJOB. GIRLS ONLY KTHX.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:28 pm

Udderdude wrote:
The Coop wrote:
soniq-man wrote: *shameless plug*

Get the Orginal Soundtrack Complete Edition from Play Asia.

*/shameless plug*

My first, and only, motivational poster
LOOK AT ME POST LINKS TO MY SHMUP IN THIS OTHER SHMUP'S TOPIC LOL

http://rydia.net/udder/prog/xop/
http://rydia.net/udder/prog/xopblack/

P.S. IT'S FREE, EXCEPT YOU HAVE TO GIVE ME A HANDJOB. GIRLS ONLY KTHX.

Silly shmupper. There are no girls on the web.

Matsunaga · Post by **Matsunaga** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:00 pm

1up.com just reviewed this game and killed it, giving it a D. The reviewer basically calls it euroshmup trash. I love how these reviewers try to look smart by throwing a few shooter terms out there, he obviously knows of nothing beyond R-Type and Gradius. I read a review of Joint Strike where it was compared to Everyday Shooter.. Guess he didn't know it's a different genre.. Soldner X may not be the greatest game ever, but it's not the steaming pile he made it out to be. Still worth the price, in my opinion.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:15 pm

Matsunaga wrote: Still worth the price, in my opinion.

And with the sig "Barackolypse 08", I really trust your opinion.

Matsunaga · Post by **Matsunaga** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:30 pm

That's very relevant.. It's worth $10 to me, I didn't tell you to buy it.

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:34 pm

FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

Udderdude · Post by **Udderdude** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:39 pm

OOH IT'S ON NOW BITCHES!

This fight sponsored by XOP flavored Pepsi. Taste the bullets. In your mouth.

Yeah.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:44 pm

Matsunaga wrote:That's very relevant.. It's worth $10 to me, I didn't tell you to buy it.

Fair enough. Your sig still sucks, and that was my only point, really.

Matsunaga · Post by **Matsunaga** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:20 pm

That's fine, I thought Barackolypse was kinda catchy.. Maybe I'll change it soon, seeing that the election is over and it's almost '09.

soniq-man · Post by **soniq-man** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:37 am

Matsunaga wrote:1up.com just reviewed this game and killed it, giving it a D. The reviewer basically calls it euroshmup trash. I love how these reviewers try to look smart by throwing a few shooter terms out there, he obviously knows of nothing beyond R-Type and Gradius. I read a review of Joint Strike where it was compared to Everyday Shooter.. Guess he didn't know it's a different genre.. Soldner X may not be the greatest game ever, but it's not the steaming pile he made it out to be. Still worth the price, in my opinion.

I want to address this:

I just saw that review. I don't really mind, nor does the rest of the team. There's a place for opinions. Thankfully, the way criticism works on the internet, is that soon enough things level out. The reviewer had his fair amount of bashing too. If you scroll down to the comments on the review, you'll find guys totally disagreeing with the mark. Some people love it, others don't. I have no deal with it. I see the same thing happening with all aspects of the game, be it graphics, music or gameplay. Some love the graphics, other hate 2D, some like the electronic music, others want to have their rock MP3s in there. I particularly honour one guy asking to respect the effort, risk and time invested into this game. Another player asked to not compare SX with full price Japanese games, because frankly, it's neither. Our future projects, as much as any other developer, of course depend on the success of previous projects and we will surely hone our skills for a new game. So. If you like our game, thank you or buying. If you don't, play something else. Easy.

All the best,

Rafael

ali_710 · Post by **ali_710** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:20 am

the point is if u like it buy it, if u dont stop Fucking moaning about it like a damn zombie.

my opinion is , it is a very good game and a very good effort. So Sidequest got my support.

i didnt like it at first but then i got the hang of it and it is really good.

the weapons arent weak, they are effective to specific enemies.

graphics 9
Music 9
Gameplay 8
replay value 10

ali_710 · Post by **ali_710** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:22 am

i hope shmups get a comeback at least on consoles.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:35 am

As much as it pains me to say so because I'd love a good shmup for PS3, (and without having read that 1up.com review): The popcorn-enemy designs of Söldner X are boring, enemy formations are uninspired, weapons are too weak and the screen is overcrowded most of the time. And that's not opinion, that's fact.
The backgrounds and the music are nice, but the only thing that could make the game good as a whole would be a complete redesign, not just some tweaking.

I'm not denying you can get some enjoyment out of it, but you should keep in mind that if you are looking to get a lot of enjoyment out of a 2D game for the same price, you might as well buy Bionic Commando Rearmed instead, which is awesome on every level (including soundtrack).

PS.
Care to update that bullshit reply regarding the trophy bug?
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 363#430363

ali_710 · Post by **ali_710** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:37 am

oh god, here we go again.

ali_710 · Post by **ali_710** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:41 am

i wonder if it was for x360. really i wonder.

ali_710 · Post by **ali_710** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:42 am

i dont care if this game on console or arcade, i just want to play an enjoyable shmup.

The beginning of shmups on ps3 Soldner-X

Buy it or Not?