Ridley Scott to direct prequel to Alien!!!!!!....

[Skykid]

Jonny5, I consider you to be pretty easily pleased when it comes to movies (don't take that the wrong way, jus sayin! )
As you stated yourself:

I'm usually pretty good at putting up with shit in films and enjoying it for what it is, but this film just rubbed me the wrong way; too many things that distracted me from enjoying the simple pleasure of the visuals and story line.

So if you found it rough I'm definitely not seeing it in theatres. I came real close twice last week too, but settled on the Euro cup as a good enough entertainment alternative.

[Mischief Maker]

Prometheus = good popcorn flick. Deal with it...

Whenever I hear someone defend a slapdash movie as a "good popcorn flick" I think this is someone who hates their life.

Popcorn as a food source has barely any flavor beyond salt and next to no nutritional value; you're chewing and swallowing it to fill the void with an activity that resembles eating. You could swallow a whole tub of popcorn and you would still be hungry, whereas a comparatively small meal created with care and sensitivity to proper flavor balance will not only be more nutritious, but would truly satisfy your hunger.

Likewise, a lazy movie covered in CGI frosting resembles an entertaining movie, it certainly gets your pulse up and displays attractive people running around, but do you walk away from "Popcorn flicks" like Prometheus or Transformers feeling as satisfied with your entertainment as you would from, say, Die Hard, or Back to the Future, or Alien? Is your life so dull that 2 hours of anything is an improvement?

Is it too much to ask that a meal satisfies instead of merely satiates? Is it too much to ask that a film delights instead of merely distracts?

[GaijinPunch]

Popcorn as a food source has barely any flavor beyond salt and next to no nutritional value;

I love movie popcorn. I have to get a huge tub w/ loads of butter every time I go.

[RGC]

Whenever I hear someone defend a slapdash movie as a "good popcorn flick" I think this is someone who hates their life.

Because someone who runs frothing to their internet to bullet-point the failings of a two hour media distraction (which is not even aimed at them) clearly has a fulfilled existence...

Your analogy works: Popcorn engages you in the moment, but ultimately you forget about it afterwards, and move on to devour tastier things with fuller flavours. I don't buy popcorn then complain afterwards that it didn't taste like sunday fucking roast.

Is your life so dull that 2 hours of anything is an improvement?

Is it too much to ask that a meal satisfies instead of merely satiates? Is it too much to ask that a film delights instead of merely distracts?

My daily life is fairly typical, as I imagine is yours. You seem to suggest, as others here obviously believe, that there is no place for pure escapist, i.e. low brow, cinema. Everything must be crafted with your delectation and intellectual expectation in mind. Sorry, but an expectation that every meal will satisfy is unrealistic. Scott is human, he makes mistakes. You're not happy with the two hours you wasted watching his trash, but you are contented to spend hours/days/weeks discussing what a waste of time it was. Why not devote the time instead to writing the screenplay Prometheus 2: Redemption, and stick it in the post to Ridley.

I've seen Prometheus once, and my usual test is to wait ~6 months then watch a movie again. Right now it sits at an 8 for me. I watched it with friends, went to the pub afterwards, drank a few beers, knocked some ideas back and forth about WTH it all meant. It was a fun discussion, from what I recall. No doubt had Rando been sitting on a table nearby he'd have been vomitting-at-the-mouth in disgust at how shallow we all were.

[Skykid]

You seem to suggest, as others here obviously believe, that there is no place for pure escapist, i.e. low brow, cinema.

There definitely is. Can't comment on Prometheus because I haven't seen it, but there are uneven levels of quality that exist within different spectrums of movie making.

Folks don't talk down the original Alien as 'just a horror movie' because it was a reinvention of sci-fi thematics, with great casting, performances, cinematography, tension and scripting. It's intellectually low-brow, perhaps, but excellent as a piece of film within a specific genre.

I always find it tough to explain why you can have bands of differing quality within sub-genres. Not all no-brainer popcorn movies deserve lumping together, because very few (especially in the last 15 years) fail to live up to simple standards of entertainment/immersion.

If Prometheus continually breaks the cinematic engagement with its audience via poor scripting, performances, plot holes etc, then it doesn't deserve 'good' low-brow status because the viewing experience was ruined by all too common ham-fistedness.

[GaijinPunch]

Something doesn't have to be redefining or even inventive to be entertaining though. Doesn't even have to be "film". It can be "a movie", a TV show (look at reality TV), or anything else. Fuck... Sven posted this gem on the best intarwebs forum ever and I laugh my balls off every time I watch it.

I'm all for dissecting stuff, but at the end of the day, sometimes I simply want to veg out and not have to think about what's on the screen. I have enough minutia to mull over in my daily grind. Media I escape in doesn't have to have the same level of complexity as my work. Maybe when I was 22 I'd have felt different, but real life has certainly kicked in now.

Okay... now back to grown men taking a break from fighting about games, to fighting about movies.

[Randorama]

No doubt had Rando been sitting on a table nearby he'd have been vomitting-at-the-mouth in disgust at how shallow we all were.

Not really. I can perfectly see why you enjoy this movie - and see nothing with it. I actually can stand poorly written movies when they have decent eye candy AND they don't pretend to wage philosophical/intellectual. I have enjoyed the Marvel movies, for instance, which have terrible scripts too.

Somehow, Prometheus reminds of (Michelangelo) Antonioni's movies, which were non-sensical and poorly written. Antonioni spent decades to defend himself saying that he wanted to portray the shallow, non-sensical lives of spoilt middle-class. So, non-sensical dialogues and poorly written plots had one reason, to depict this type of social environment.

In practice, he spent decades making terrible and pretentious movies with technical eye-candy, and working with authors who simply could not string together two meaningful scenes in a row (sadly, Ennio Flaiano being one of them). He survived if only because of pseudo-marxist posers going to see his movies, and being too dumb the lack of any meaningful content.

I don't need any ultimate sense in my movies, if Aesthetics is good enough. But I seriously can't stand people who pretend to convey some kind of "meaningful" message and can't put together two well-written scenes in a row. This movie is post-modernist garbage, and at least 20 years late in being so.

And aside that, what's wrong with bullet points, dammit?!?!

[Skykid]

I actually can stand poorly written movies when they have decent eye candy AND they don't pretend to wage philosophical/intellectual.

You're easier going than I am. I can't stand movies that fail to at least remain cohesively entertaining because I'm constantly being jarred by horrible dialogue and awful characters. The director has to do an incredible job to overshadow such issues.

I suppose a good example would be AVP. Apart from the fact the action scenes were shit because they're so heavily edited you can't see anything, there was nothing that could stop me from noticing forgettable characters, horrible casting, dogshit dialogue and the butchery of a franchise with potential.

The waterline would be something like Avatar, which also had forgettable characters and some puke worthy scripting, but Cameron's ability to glue a movie together from derivative properties made it entertaining enough to warrant the price of entry.

[EmperorIng]

Mr. Randorama, I think you would enjoy the movies of Godfrey Ho.

Not only are they chock full of seriously-stunning special effects, the scripts really touch on some of the big issues of Ho's day (like post-Vietnam soldiers in a post-war environment). Of course, it was the 80s so things don't seem quite as relevant, but there is a timeless quality to Ho's cinematography.

[DEL]

* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w-58hQ9 ... re=mh_lolz

* That was a beautiful and deep experience Mr GaijinPunch

* Mischief Maker wrote:Whenever I hear someone defend a slapdash movie as a "good popcorn flick" I think this is someone who hates their life.

* Well...RGC did say that his job is overly stressful

* RGC wrote; I don't buy popcorn then complain afterwards that it didn't taste like sunday fucking roast.

* Yeah but like I said - a Ridley Scott Alien film isn't supposed to be popcorn, is it?

a) RGC wrote; You're not happy with the two hours you wasted watching his trash, but you are contented to spend hours/days/weeks discussing what a waste of time it was

b) Because of the 33 years hit and away stab in your black oil heart anticipation, and subsequent letdown.

c) RGC wrote; Right now it sits at an 8 for me

d) Right now it sits at a 5 on the sphincter scale

e) RGC wrote; It was a fun discussion, from what I recall. No doubt had Rando been sitting on a table nearby he'd have been vomitting-at-the-mouth in disgust at how shallow we all were.

f) Naah, I think he'd be glad that you were trying to figure that shit out

1. RGC wrote; Because someone who runs frothing to their internet to bullet-point the failings of a two hour media distraction (which is not even aimed at them) clearly has a fulfilled existence...

2. But why wasn't it aimed at him?

3. Bullet points are so passé

4. Team Skykid wrote; So if you found it rough I'm definitely not seeing it in theatres.

5. You really should. You'd have fun picking it apart.

[jonny5]

Can't comment on Prometheus because I haven't seen it,

Didn't stop you with Inception

[Skykid]

Can't comment on Prometheus because I haven't seen it,

Didn't stop you with Inception

I didn't comment on Inception, I commented on Nolan. :FACEPALM:

This is coming with me to the grave.

[jonny5]

Can't comment on Prometheus because I haven't seen it,

Didn't stop you with Inception

I didn't comment on Inception, I commented on Nolan. :FACEPALM:

This is coming with me to the grave.

No I recall the thread. You hadn't seen it, but friends of yours 'whose opinions you respect' had and you said it was shit, based on what you had been told.

I agree, I'm basing my assumptions purely on his track record and what I consider to be a reliable source who has seen it, which is unfair. I apologise for that.

In fairness, you were mostly ragging on Nolan, but you were also one of the most active people in that thread, all without having actually seen it.

I can bust balls too, ya know. You ain't got a monopoly on that racket!

[Skykid]

I can bust balls too, ya know. You ain't got a monopoly on that racket!

Hoy, don't be musclin' in!

You really should. You'd have fun picking it apart.

Yeah, but it's even more fun when you didn't just blow ten quid.

[Randorama]

You're easier going than I am. I can't stand movies that fail to at least remain cohesively entertaining because I'm constantly being jarred by horrible dialogue and awful characters. The director has to do an incredible job to overshadow such issues.

Yes and no, I'd say. I have been willing to watch the Marvel movies only for the special effects, but I never paid for them, actually.

I haven't paid for a movie in a while: I actually can't recall the last time I did so. I am only willing to do so if I know that a movie is well-written, and this is a rare event these days.

I do breed a certain unjustified contempt for modern movie-making, this is pretty clear, but I have never been a huge fan of the medium itself, I would add. Say,

I did pay for Avatar, but I'd say that 20 AUD for the special effects were an acceptable price, once. The movie itself was even worse than those Star Wars trash thingies.

Also, Ebert deserves to go in the eugenics list once and for all, thanks to convincing proof of braindeadness. I am lost for words: how much did he get paid, not to notice the godawful script?

And in other news:

Naah, I think he'd be gald that you were trying to figure that shit out

Not sure I get you, although I know what "gald" is.

Can't Scott be just dumb? (more or less, too lazy to quote, N.D.R.)

Point taken!

I think you would enjoy the movies of Godfrey Ho

Ah, the Ninja guy!...maybe I do.

[Skykid]

I am lost for words: how much did he get paid, not to notice the godawful script?

Forget that Ebert guy, he's totally full of shit and undeserved of any reputation as a 'critic'. He rarely mentions a single flaw in the entirety of his I-got-paid-motherfuckers reviews.

I did pay for Avatar, but I'd say that 20 AUD for the special effects were an acceptable price, once. The movie itself was even worse than those Star Wars trash thingies.

Disagree I must, as Yoda would say. As long as we're talking prequels here, I'd happily stick my neck out and say that in terms of film-making at base level, they were even worse than Avatar, which at least pulled enough strings to get some active emotional participation out of its audience.

Lucas's prequels barely qualify as moving wallpaper.

[Randorama]

Forget that Ebert guy, he's totally full of shit and undeserved of any reputation as a 'critic'. He rarely mentions a single flaw in the entirety of his I-got-paid-motherfuckers reviews.

I didn't know he was a serial offender. I seldom read his works, as he is often cited by the wrong type of people, and I think that this is not a good sign.

Disagree I must, as Yoda would say. As long as we're talking prequels here, I'd happily stick my neck out and say that in terms of film-making at base level, they were even worse than Avatar, which at least pulled enough strings to get some active emotional participation out of its audience.

Lucas's prequels barely qualify as moving wallpaper.

Never seen the prequels. I actually meant the original movies, which I never was able to see in adult age, without falling asleep. I also have beaten up people dressing up as Jedis, while invoking eugenics.

And I never really liked Blade Runner, too.

Hold on, I guess that I hate sci-fi, given the evidence so far.

[RGC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w-58hQ9 ... re=mh_lolz

bookmarked for bad times.

* Mischief Maker wrote:Whenever I hear someone defend a slapdash movie as a "good popcorn flick" I think this is someone who hates their life.
* Well...RGC did say that his job is overly stressful

"Get a life!", "Saddo!", "What a loser!", etc. I'd better change my views on this film sharpish if I'm to avoid complete electronic ostracism. Yep, sometimes it's a stressful job involving lots of crossing "T"s, and dotting "I"s. You bet there's room in my life for brain-off movies where loose ends flail about all the over the place and aliens randomly face-fuck people. Open meanderings inviting speculative musings, with lots of visual gloss. First time I've been to the cinema in about a year, and it was well worth it.

a Ridley Scott Alien film isn't supposed to be popcorn, is it?

Says who? Why have such big expectations in the first place? The 33 years of anticipation were yours, not Scott's. You're as much to blame for not liking it as him. Was his making another sci-fi movie an implicit promise to you that he broke?

f) Naah, I think he'd be gald that you were trying to figure that shit out

Rando's a diehard member of that club of bitter old passive aggressive analytic philosophers (known as analytic philosophers). It's one of those pursuits that seems so important to those who engage in it, but nigh on impossible to justify as actually beneficial to the rest of the non-academic world. Like doing extra-extra-super hard sudoku: Fun if you can get the pieces to fit together, but still pointless. OR, like watching Prometheus, only with a much bigger subsequent headache.

2. But why wasn't it aimed at him?

He hates sci-fi, and movies in general. It was never going to work out well.

[Randorama]

Rando's a diehard member of that club of bitter old passive aggressive analytic philosophers (known as analytic philosophers).

Not really, at least not according to what passes as analytic philosophy these days. Also, me, passive aggressive? I always said that everybody who disagrees with me sucks, I don't beat it around the bush like that bloody Deleuze and Putnam guys *shakes fist pretentiously, not looking in the eyes of anyone*

It's one of those pursuits that seems so important to those who engage in it, but nigh on impossible to justify as actually beneficial to the rest of the non-academic world.

We could argue about this, but that's not the right thread for it. I mean, "useful"? Bakers and brewers are useful, everyone else is rabble, I'd say. I think that I am more useful than Paris Hilton, at least.

Plus, Prometheus still sucks balls in its pretentiousness, usefulness or not.

He hates sci-fi, and movies in general. It was never going to work out well.

I would not agree on sci-fi (outside movies, I do like the genre), but I agree on movies in general. The state of this medium, in these days, makes my eugenic drive fibrillate with intolerant intolerance, dammit.

[GaijinPunch]

I can bust balls too, ya know. You ain't got a monopoly on that racket!

I have to sanction it though.
Carry on...

[ST Dragon]

OK, I saw the film and have questions regarding various plot holes.

• So, that scene where the android activated the holograms of the spooked alien engineers running away from something, in the corridor into that room with the biological weapon canisters, what were they actually running away from, the Xenomorph Aliens? One could only assume that as previously they had seen those engraved hieroglyphs on the walls of what resembled a grotesque version of the Xenomorph Alien Queen and later on the 2 coward geologists found many corpses of the alien engineers with their chests burst open from the inside.
But if that is the case, then what happened to the xenomorph aliens that were chasing them and killed them?

• Where did that snake thing come from that killed the 2 geologists, as it wasn’t in that room when they 1st arrived and how did it survive thousands of years there without food, waiting for the humans to arrive?

• Why did they pat an unknown and probably hostile alien snake living inside a sinister cave, instead of running away from it like hell, when previously they had expressed their fear of staying there any more than the should, since it was above their field as geologists?

• In Alien 1, when Ripley’s crew arrived at the place and later on in Aliens 2 the terraforming colonists, how come no one noticed the human crash-landed escape pods and debris and that huge squid inside the pod that had devoured the alien engineer and what happened it?

• In Alien 1 film, the huge room filled with xenomorph eggs was it in a different unexplored compartment of the horse-shoe space-ship and was that a another space jockey with its chest burst open? Because in Prometheus, after the ship crashed, the space jockey left the ship and came after the woman protagonist to kill her, only to get crushed to death by her squid child.

[BIL]

I am not a Prometheus Expert™ but I think I can answer a few of your questions!

It's not the same planet as in Alien and Aliens. That was LV-426, this movie's is LV-223.

The arsefaced snake I assumed was actually one of those worms seen on someone's boots earlier, just pumped up by the all-purpose black goo™ for extra arm-breaking, face-raping action.

Milburn petting the snake is simply stock horror film retardation. Someone has to get an alien dong in the mouth and that's the simplest way to bring the scene about. Crummy writing!

[EmperorIng]

1- I assume there was an outbreak on the installation, which caused the death of all the space jockeys on the base (aside from the one still alive). The black goo turned normal animal life into some very vicious animals, very quickly, so one small fuck-up could really destroy the base at an alarming rate. As for remains, I can only assume they died with no food to eat, or something. Not made entirely clear.

2- If you looked closely, you could see some small worms writhing around in the goo. The black goo turned these worms into into the snake-penis-vag monsters. The black goo mutates things at an alarmingly fast rate. In the original cut of the film, you were actually supposed to see Fifeld (the geologist who attacked the crew) in his transformation into a being looking remarkably like a xenomorph:


The version they went with was a bit like something out of John Carpenter's The Thing, but this route would have made a bit more sense, hammering in the "black goo somehow under certain conditions turns things into a xenomorph-like thing" angle.

The xenomorphs (or at least a form of them) are obviously a known mutation, considering how they are on a mural in the main chamber:

which mirrors the original "classic xenomorph/deacon" design that was originally to be used in the movie, as opposed to the more-obvious (though still satisfying) "xenomorph" we saw at the end.

3- One of the two stoner morons was a biologist. So maybe he was fascinated at the itty-bitty snake-vagina-penis thing. Kind of a plot-hole you have to attribute to a bad script, ie, characters acting dumb. At least we got a good shot of the idiot biologist getting throat-fucked by the snake.

4- Alien and Aliens take place on planet LV426. Prometheus takes place on a moon called LV223.

5- See #4

[BIL]

Whoa, that shot of Xeno-Fifeld looks kind of neat. Better than the hydrocephalitic Rage Zombie™ we ended up getting at any rate.

[ST Dragon]

I am not a Prometheus Expert™ but I think I can answer a few of your questions!

It's not the same planet as in Alien and Aliens. That was LV-426, this movie's is LV-223.

I didn't even notice that! Thanks for pointing it out!
Interestingly enough both LV-426 & LV-223 are both moons orbiting of ringed gas giants.
Then this Prometheus film is not a prequel to Alien at all!
But if that is the case then who planted the warning beacon in Alien 1 on LV-426 that attracted Ripley's crew. We see at the end of Prometheus that Doctor Shaw plants a similar warning beacon on LV-223 just before she left the planet!! This is too similar to Alien and it makes no sense if its a different planet then!

The arsefaced snake I assumed was actually one of those worms seen on someone's boots earlier, just pumped up by the all-purpose black goo™ for extra arm-breaking, face-raping action.

Milburn petting the snake is simply stock horror film retardation. Someone has to get an alien dong in the mouth and that's the simplest way to bring the scene about. Crummy writing!

LOl! Ahahhahahahah!!
That's a good one, that made me laugh!!

[ST Dragon]

1- I assume there was an outbreak on the installation, which caused the death of all the space jockeys on the base (aside from the one still alive). The black goo turned normal animal life into some very vicious animals, very quickly, so one small fuck-up could really destroy the base at an alarming rate. As for remains, I can only assume they died with no food to eat, or something. Not made entirely clear.

2- If you looked closely, you could see some small worms writhing around in the goo. The black goo turned these worms into into the snake-penis-vag monsters. The black goo mutates things at an alarmingly fast rate. In the original cut of the film, you were actually supposed to see Fifeld (the geologist who attacked the crew) in his transformation into a being looking remarkably like a xenomorph:


The version they went with was a bit like something out of John Carpenter's The Thing, but this route would have made a bit more sense, hammering in the "black goo somehow under certain conditions turns things into a xenomorph-like thing" angle.

The xenomorphs (or at least a form of them) are obviously a known mutation, considering how they are on a mural in the main chamber:

which mirrors the original "classic xenomorph/deacon" design that was originally to be used in the movie, as opposed to the more-obvious (though still satisfying) "xenomorph" we saw at the end.

3- One of the two stoner morons was a biologist. So maybe he was fascinated at the itty-bitty snake-vagina-penis thing. Kind of a plot-hole you have to attribute to a bad script, ie, characters acting dumb. At least we got a good shot of the idiot biologist getting throat-fucked by the snake.

4- Alien and Aliens take place on planet LV426. Prometheus takes place on a moon called LV223.

5- See #4

Again Thanks for pointing it out! I didn't know they were 2 different planets!
Interestingly enough both LV-426 & LV-223 are both moons orbiting of ringed gas giants.
Then this Prometheus film is not a prequel to Alien at all!
But if that is the case then who planted the warning beacon in Alien 1 on LV-426 that attracted Ripley's crew. We see at the end of Prometheus that Doctor Shaw plants a similar warning beacon on LV-223 just before she left the planet!! This is too similar to Alien and it makes no sense if its a different planet then!


At least we got a good shot of the idiot biologist getting throat-fucked by the snake.



I still can't stop laughing with this description!


Yeah but an outbreak on the installation, doesn't explain the dead bodies with their chest torn from the inside out that those geologists discovered before their... unfortunate encounter with that snake thing.

And too bad they removed that scene with the geologist Fifeld changing into that:


That would have been such a cool scene!

[PC Engine Fan X!]

So the events that take place on the moon LV-223 in 2094 A.D. whereas the events that take place on the moon LV-426 with the space miners (in the first Alien flick) is set in 2120 A.D. Makes me wonder what happens during that span of time between both films. One thing is certain, is the eventual joint partnership between Weyland and Yutani takes place indeed.

The worm creatures that appear early in the film appear only when the humans are walking on the grounds of where the black goo is stored. If they hadn't done so, the worms wouldn't have come to life.

As for the alien snake creatures, they could be related to the Adam & Eve in the Garden of Eden type of senario if you will. Recall when Eve was tempted by the serpent into eating the forbidden fruit from the Tree of Knowledge. Almost the same type of subtle analogy if you will.

A sequel to Prometheus will better explain what happens next with some important issues to tie up including:

*What happens to Dr. Shaw and her robotic companion on their way to the Space Jockeys' home planet...and will she want to return back to Earth or not?

*What Weyland Corporation intends to do next after the wayward incident of LV-223...will they send out another expedition crew (or search & rescue crew) back to LV-223 to find out just what the fuck happened there? A trillion dollar trip that went not as planned will surely warrant such a second trip. They already know the existence of the Space Jockeys and the other exotic alien lifeforms on LV-223 (from the sub-space radio transmissions sent from the Prometheus ship during the experiments and subsquent geological/underground searches of the alien ship). What they don't know is that LV-223 is already the home planet of the xenomorphs should they go back there a second time. (This possible senario/outcome will come into conflict with the previous four Alien films in terms of film continuity of the future Weyland-Yutani Corp. on their endless & relentless pursuit of aquiring an xenomorph for their bio-weapons division -- this is a given.) So whomever writes the script for the Prometheus sequel, assuming if it is given the green light, will have to take this serious film continuity issue into consideration between the two seperate sci-fi film IPs of Prometheus and the Alien movies.

*What happens if the proto xenomorph ingests some of the black goo substance? Will that result in a new alien life form or worse? You might recall that the proto alien already has DNA genetic material of both Space Jockeys and humans to begin with, making for an intelligent creature to begin with.

*Does the home planet of the Space Jockeys still exist (after the events that took place on LV-223 some 2,000 years later)?

*If said home planet does exist, what is the reaction of the Space Jockeys towards Dr. Shaw and the android?

There are still many planets that the Space Jockeys have left their mark on with the holographic Galaxy map as shown in the film.

So much for Ridley Scott and 20th Century Fox studio doing an entirely new sci-fi/horror hybrid film IP.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[Mischief Maker]

This movie isn't that complex, it's just such a betrayal of the original "Alien" that it's throwing people off.

The Engineer at the beginning is Prometheus.

The Canisters are Pandora's Box.

The Android is Pandora.

The Black Goo and the various forms of throat rape it generates are the evils hidden in Pandora's box.

Shaw's faith is the hope hidden at the bottom of Pandora's box.

That's IT. Why is the Android doing all these incredibly stupid impulsive things like dosing the guy's drink? Because Pandora's insatiable curiosity doomed us all. Why did the Engineers leave clues everywhere to lead humanity to discover the black goo? Because the Gods set Pandora up to fail by making the box impossible to resist.

This theme is the engine of the movie, and any previously established details from the original movie are swept aside in the service of it. Whereas the original was nihilistic to its core, all the way down to its "in space, no one can hear you scream" tagline, Prometheus is an artsy tableau, where scientists "believe" and nobody puts on gloves before handling biological crap. Nobody would have watched Prometheus if it wasn't stapled to an already established franchise.

Stop analyzing it in the same frame as "Alien" and the mysteries evaporate.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

So assuming if Scott really wanted to tie such a second sequel of Prometheus to the Alien flicks, he certainly could do so going that route. So in the end, Prometheus remains as a wholly seperate new sci-fi IP into itself whilst borrowing elements from the past Alien movies. That's cool with me.

The key issues/plots already listed in my post above will need to be addressed if said sequel is given the the thumbs up (even if it isn't directly related to the Alien film franchise then).

Honestly, if the first script draft of Prometheus was filmed with the eggs, face huggers, chest bursters, and classical xenomorphs that we all love, that would've been the proper prequel that the hard-core Alien fans would've wanted to see all along after waiting patiently all those years. Looks like it'll never happen.

So the events that take place on LV-426 with the Space Jockey crash landing there with a chest burster inside eons ago, makes you wonder what happened, doesn't it?

So here are the chronological timelines in the Alien mythos:

Alien: takes place in 2120 A.D.

Aliens: take place in 2177 A.D. (57 years later)

Alien 3: ?

Alien Resurrection: takes place 200 years after the events of Alien 3 (Weyland-Yutani Corp. is no longer around and is succeeded by the USM instead)

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[GaijinPunch]

This movie isn't that complex, it's just such a betrayal of the original "Alien" that it's throwing people off.

Why is probably why Scott threw up disclaimers from ages ago. The only official word from him was, "it's in the same universe as Alien." In his eyes, it can't be a betrayal.