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Ed Oscuro wrote:I cannot buy this, the logos, they are at completely different heights
lol :mrgreen:
I'll admit it, things like that bother me too...
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I was hoping the soundtracks all came in their own cases, but, that didn't stop me from preordering.

Now I just have to wait...
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Ed Oscuro wrote:I cannot buy this, the logos, they are at completely different heights]
This actually does annoy me, but I'll have to find a way to live with it. :wink:

I am more concerned with the multi DVD cases.
Normal X360 packaging damages manuals and the like enough already so I hope this won't damage the inserts and discs even more.
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Zero Gunner wrote:...collection that includes a special bound book version of the manuals, the DLC on a disc, 10 OST Cds, 7 Superplay DVDs, and the games themselves
My Questions are:
- are there OST CDs in the collection as well? Seems like there is not much place to cram all these CDs.
- Can you please list which Superplays (and osts) are included? Some boxes have only japanese letters (CAN'T...READ...RAGE :? )
- What ONE Cave game is NOT included in the collection? (5pb doesn't count, i know)


i have most of the games as LE (i say most, becasue lately my collector's madness started to ceise). Expecially i decided to let go with LE when getting some of the more mediocre cave games like daiffukatsu , deathsmiles II. The crappy dubstep arrange CDs were also a deceisive factor i guess >< So understandably, i was on the verge of not bying this untill ...

i saw that all these boxes are not actually games but SUPERPALY Dvds! Wow, thats a super sweet deal , considering not only the price of the whole packet, but also the fact that last time i checked they were unavailable/sold out in CAVE shop. Ordering one single superplay was about 150 euro while it lasted.

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How come this thread has reached over 10 pages and still consist of something else than compalining about "lolis"?

I'd buy this instantly if they went over the minimal effort of taking off the oh-so-90's region locking. I bet it's nothing more than one line in the whole source of the game, something like "region=U,J,P" and they decide to go the way that certainly does not help their financial status.
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Pallerå wrote:How come this thread has reached over 10 pages and still consist of something else than compalining about "lolis"?
How come you are making this thread even longer by complaining about people complaining about lolis? Try doing something useful, you may start as well answering my questions.

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PS - sorry for bashing you. i glanced at your sentence in a logical way without really going into it. Now i understand that you complain about this thread having other things APART FROM complaining about lolis. Aha! now.... i don't understand :shock:
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dorelas wrote:
Pallerå wrote:How come this thread has reached over 10 pages and still consist of something else than compalining about "lolis"?
How come you are making this thread even longer by complaining about people complaining about lolis? Try doing something useful, you may start as well answering my questions.
How come you're making this tread even longer by complaining about people complaining about people complaining about lolis??

Moderater, take my post down as well as all the people complaining about people complaining about lolis.

I personally am starting to like lolis because of all the hate, maybe.
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You understood me wrong sir. i was curious why he complains about this topic containing OTHER things apart from lolis in which case , maybe a separate general "Loli compilation whine thread" might be of use for the likes of him. AND i would like to give people the incentive to answer my questions, which are again listed here:
Zero Gunner wrote:...collection that includes a special bound book version of the manuals, the DLC on a disc, 10 OST Cds, 7 Superplay DVDs, and the games themselves
My Questions are:
- are there OST CDs in the collection as well? Seems like there is not much place to cram all these CDs.
- Can you please list which Superplays (and osts) are included? Some boxes have only japanese letters (CAN'T...READ...RAGE )
- What ONE Cave game is NOT included in the collection? (5pb doesn't count, i know)
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Holy shit everybody shut up please :|
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dorelas wrote: - are there OST CDs in the collection as well? Seems like there is not much place to cram all these CDs.
- Can you please list which Superplays (and osts) are included? Some boxes have only japanese letters (CAN'T...READ...RAGE )
- What ONE Cave game is NOT included in the collection? (5pb doesn't count, i know)
CDs: http://vgmdb.net/album/38237

DVDs:
Espgaluda 2 Official DVD + Guide Book
Mushihimesama Futari Official DVD + Guide Book
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu Oficial DVD
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu Black Label Oficial DVD
Deathsmiles Official DVD
Mushihimesama Futari Black Label x Deathsmiles Mega Black Label Official DVD
Akai Katana Shin Official DVD

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@Kai sorry about asking the same question 100 times, but maybe i didn't specify well what i meant. is this -> http://vgmdb.net/album/38237 really included in the CAVE Shooting Collection X360 or is it a separate release?

If the original soundtracks were included in the box , they wouldn't double but enhance the limited editions, which contained "arrange" versions. winwin ;D

Why would anybody complain about publishing this collection at a price of two superplays is beyond me.
The fact, that the newest dodonpachi is not included is more than understandable; its release date is 2 months later, would would you expect?

i understand that the games (and ost?) are packed in somewhat lacking way. But what about superplays? Every one of them seem to have the proper box. Does anybody know whether these are the exact same official superplays , which have been sold in CAVE shop?`

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And a whole one page earlier.

Skykid wrote:Image

Ah, I think I see how this special box came about. :idea:

Judging by the pic, it looks like Cave must have had a truckload of surplus DVD stock unsold - enough to fill however many of these collections they'll be producing - and tried to figure out how to shift them out the door for profit. The answer:

Reprint the games in two cheap multicases, whack the DVD's in the box, sell the lot for $300 a pop.

This set isn't a homegrown idea for the ultimate Cave 360 collection, it's simple stock clearance business.
So yes, they're the original dvd's. And no, they're far from rare.
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dorelas wrote:@Kai sorry about asking the same question 100 times, but maybe i didn't specify well what i meant. is this -> http://vgmdb.net/album/38237 really included in the CAVE Shooting Collection X360 or is it a separate release?
Yep, they are included inside the Box.
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That NCSX price seems a little steep from the initial proposed cost of about $320. Then again they're probably passing the cost of shipping from Japan to their warehouse over to the customer.
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Skyline wrote:That NCSX price seems a little steep from the initial proposed cost of about $320. Then again they're probably passing the cost of shipping from Japan to their warehouse over to the customer.
They also have to buy at retail and use a middle-man since it's Amazon JP.
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Does that superplay "The Secret Lover" (not included in Cave Shooting Game Collection) correspond to any modes found in Mushi HD?
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Pre-ordered it from nin nin games. It's on sale for 27,900 yen (~$293 dollars). I got fedex shipping for 3040 yen. $324 shipped via fedex. :)
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Thanks for the preciosu tip, Mr. Kurt Burton! :)
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Kollision wrote:Thanks for the preciosu tip, Mr. Kurt Burton! :)
No problem. It took cracker jack timing to find that price. Luckily for me, I was born ready. :)
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Who's double-dipping here?

"someone" is already pretty disgusted with the very notion that people might do that at all.... the fact that it would be a double-dip on a repack of old material using old stock might make for amusing responses.

Incidentally, they should have printed a Goo-Wang disk, that would have made this collection sell twenty times as much as it will do.
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DrTrouserPlank wrote:Incidentally, they should have printed a Goo-Wang disk, that would have made this collection sell twenty times as much as it will do.
are you talkin' to me? :P
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Should just print a goo-wang disk outright, it would sell like hotcakes because it's an oddity despite the game already being available.

Limited edition 13,000Y (disk + picture book)
Super limited edition 17,000Y (disk + large picture book)
CAVE edition 30,000Y (disk, no picture book, no cover and no manual)

Bet the CAVE edition would be out of stock within minutes.
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Jack Burton wrote:Pre-ordered it from nin nin games. It's on sale for 27,900 yen (~$293 dollars). I got fedex shipping for 3040 yen. $324 shipped via fedex. :)
Thats a LOT of money...but I'm still considering it for the DVDs.
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So I think I'm just going to order it off Amazon.jp. The conversion to USD comes out to about $265. I'm going to have it shipped to a friend in Japan and then have him ship it to me. $324 seen like a bit of a jump in price. Is that just to get around the shipping issue? Or is there more to it? Surely there are cheaper alternatives?
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CID wrote:So I think I'm just going to order it off Amazon.jp. The conversion to USD comes out to about $265. I'm going to have it shipped to a friend in Japan and then have him ship it to me. $324 seen like a bit of a jump in price. Is that just to get around the shipping issue? Or is there more to it? Surely there are cheaper alternatives?
Well, to me it seems like a $28 dollar price increase plus shipping on top of that. Not too bad compared to alot of the other options (NCSX=$399+shipping). If you don't have friends on japan, it seems like the best option to me.

Regarding it being alot of money: the SLE for new Dodonpachi would have ended up costing me $180 with shipping. That's only for one game. This has ten games, 7 superplay discs, 10 cd soundtracks and all dlc. Sounds good to me. :)
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DrTrouserPlank wrote:Who's double-dipping here?

"someone" is already pretty disgusted with the very notion that people might do that at all....
Not disgusted, disbelieving. It's your cash folks, buy the same shit five times over if it suits you you.
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hvx wrote:Does that superplay "The Secret Lover" (not included in Cave Shooting Game Collection) correspond to any modes found in Mushi HD?
the secret lover contains runs for mushihimesama original, maniac and ultra modes, which said modes are included on the mushi 360 port. definitely a great superplay to pick up.
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Skykid wrote:
DrTrouserPlank wrote:Who's double-dipping here?

"someone" is already pretty disgusted with the very notion that people might do that at all....
Not disgusted, disbelieving. It's your cash folks, buy the same shit five times over if it suits you you.
I agree it's a bit overboard but people collect all sorts of useless objects, some of which have no real use other than being what they are and providing enjoyment in some form to the person collecting them. For example, I collect CAVE games; they sit on my shelf, cause me to rant on this forum and don't really cause me much joy in the general balance of positives vs negatives. By all accounts they are pointless nick-naks that sit there and don't do a lot, but I enjoyed acquiring them.... probably more than I enjoyed playing them.

I'd wager you probably own at least one PCB of a game that you also own on the 360? That's a double dip of sorts, although granted that the PCB can almost be considered to be "rented" as it's resale value is likely to be roughly what you paid for it.
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DrTrouserPlank wrote:
Skykid wrote:
DrTrouserPlank wrote:Who's double-dipping here?

"someone" is already pretty disgusted with the very notion that people might do that at all....
Not disgusted, disbelieving. It's your cash folks, buy the same shit five times over if it suits you you.
I agree it's a bit overboard but people collect all sorts of useless objects, some of which have no real use other than being what they are and providing enjoyment in some form to the person collecting them. For example, I collect CAVE games; they sit on my shelf, cause me to rant on this forum and don't really cause me much joy in the general balance of positives vs negatives. By all accounts they are pointless nick-naks that sit there and don't do a lot, but I enjoyed acquiring them.... probably more than I enjoyed playing them.

I'd wager you probably own at least one PCB of a game that you also own on the 360? That's a double dip of sorts, although granted that the PCB can almost be considered to be "rented" as it's resale value is likely to be roughly what you paid for it.
More usually. I nearly only ever play arrange modes on 360 ports if I own the PCB. Pointless otherwise.
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