Official Muchi-Muchi Pork! [Cave 2007] thread

NTSC-J · Post by **NTSC-J** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:57 am

Main page updated with some info on General Pork Fillet and the other bad guys.

Dandy J · Post by **Dandy J** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:58 am

Nullsleep wrote: And you just need to jack off whenever you see boobs?

man

yea

TWE wrote:If you guys want an easy Cave game, just play Mushi's original mode. If it's still too hard for you set the difficulty to "very easy".

No dude Mushi is the hardest game ever, doesn't matter whether it's original or maniac. It's the only shmup where I have to re-focus my eyes between the entire screen and RIGHT on my player sprite, because for some reason I cannot naturally tell where my hitbox is. It takes like half a second to re-focus so I just die. I can get to the 4th stage on DOJ pretty often, but I have never seen stage 4 in Mushi on 1 credit, and I have only reached the stage 3 boss once in either maniac or original. That game is really hard.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:24 am

Official Cave MMP promo video!

http://www.mak-jp.com/documents/PORK.MPG

Oh and Dandy J, Mushi isn't hard. You must have some eye problems. See a doctor!

superyoups · Post by **superyoups** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:17 am

Dandy J wrote:
Nullsleep wrote: And you just need to jack off whenever you see boobs?
man

yea

TWE wrote:If you guys want an easy Cave game, just play Mushi's original mode. If it's still too hard for you set the difficulty to "very easy".
No dude Mushi is the hardest game ever, That game is really hard.

Euh, have you ever played Ibara ?? Cause this is a hard game, mushi a walk in a parc compare to it.

For me, Ibara is by far the hardest Cave game.

agony · Post by **agony** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:53 am

finally, a thread hijack to "the hardest cave shmup of all time"

can't wait for the ketsui and DOJ postings

Dandy J · Post by **Dandy J** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:40 am

superyoups wrote: Euh, have you ever played Ibara ?? Cause this is a hard game, mushi a walk in a parc compare to it.

For me, Ibara is by far the hardest Cave game.

I've gotten to stage 4 on Ibara, and while that game is a bitch, I never felt I got cheated when I got killed. I still have a harder time with Mushi.

RotateMe · Post by **RotateMe** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:43 pm

TWE wrote:Official Cave MMP promo video!

http://www.mak-jp.com/documents/PORK.MPG

Oh and Dandy J, Mushi isn't hard. You must have some eye problems. See a doctor!

Looks nice but I got to aggree it LOOKS easy (which means nothing).

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:28 am

TWE wrote:Official Cave MMP promo video!

http://www.mak-jp.com/documents/PORK.MPG

I'm liking the music.

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:23 am

Randorama wrote:I'm totally sold, I want it now! Finally a shmup for pervs like me, I feel like they finally cared to give us a decent product, and not that macho trash with bees and cock-lasers, or all those pederast-oriented stuff

(sorry Iatneh!)

Sorry Rando, I stopped reading this thread around page 6 and just caught up.

Let's see what else there was... tons of animations? So I suppose no PS2 port, suckers.

And difficulty... I'll probably get killed anyway. Let's just say BulletMagnet has higher scores and further stage reached than me in almost every high score table I've posted in.

And the booth babes. Hot damn!

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:19 pm

According to this site (via Danmakugata):

http://www.am-net.jp/location/profile.cgi?_v=1151062535

The Location test of MMP will be from sometime in the last 10 days of March until sometime in the first 10 days of April.

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:59 pm

Looks like the easiest game cave ever made. What the hell?

I need a cave game I can 1cc (instead of just getting killed at the third level.) Allright, BRING IT ON!!!!

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:13 pm

Lol. This game will not be easy folks (I still don't know what people are basing this assumption on, a few seconds of a promo vid?). And unless you're into PCB gaming or plan on moving to Japan, you won't likely play it within the next 10 years anyway.

bay · Post by **bay** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:29 pm

TWE wrote:unless you're into PCB gaming or plan on moving to Japan, you won't likely play it within the next 10 years anyway.

oooooh denied!!

in all seriousness tho, no gameplay assumptions can be made until the game is complete. besides, if it's easy on "normal" just crank it up to "instadeath" mode and suck plasma bullets.

i'm looking forward to seeing how this game pans out, i am more prone that think that a cute-em-uppy shooter is prone to be less difficult than a serious genre game.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:41 pm

bay wrote: i'm looking forward to seeing how this game pans out, i am more prone that think that a cute-em-uppy shooter is prone to be less difficult than a serious genre game.

Well Pink Sweets is damn cute but it's also damn hard. MMP is being made by Yagawa (and perhaps Ikeda). I really don't see how it's going to be 'easy' unless there's a specific "easy mode" in the game. NTSC-J, one of the few people here to have actually played the game, already commented that if you start medalling the game gets brutal by the second or third stage.

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:43 am

Official site says the location test will be from the 16th - 22nd of March.

NTSC-J · Post by **NTSC-J** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:38 am

Just got back from playing more Muchi Pork. There were a few changes from the AOU version and all for the better.

First, this one had the whole game rather than just the first three stages like AOU MMP. I was happy to be the first player in all the land to get to stage 4 (dunno what was with the guys at HEY today...they sucked bad for the most part).

The changes to the gameplay involved the medal value when dropped. Rather than getting knocked back to 100 when you've dropped a 10k medal (i.e. Raizing), this time it'll go down to just 1k. If you drop a 3k medal, it'll go down to 300, etc. I think they made this change after seeing how much easier it was to lose medals in this game (expect huge points from this one).

I also noticed the rank not being quite as severe. I saw players dying and avoiding medals and the game was still pretty harsh. Still, when I was rocking huge chunks of pork gold the game pushed me right back. This is not an easy one, I promise. I think we should all be used to the fact that the first two stages of any Cave game generally aren't too mean, it's stage 3 and up that it gets hairy.

Since I could hear the music now, I can say confidently that it sucks, except for the kickass boss theme.

I know many people are upset that this isn't another military macho shooter, but if you can ignore the humor you'll find a very fun game. It's really a blast to play and very satisfying when you're scoring well. This is unfortunately my last day in Japan so I won't be playing the finished product for some time, but I look forward to the day when I can add the game to my library.

hermosaguy · Post by **hermosaguy** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:11 pm

NTSC-J wrote:Just got back from playing more Muchi Pork. There were a few changes from the AOU version and all for the better.

First, this one had the whole game rather than just the first three stages like AOU MMP. I was happy to be the first player in all the land to get to stage 4 (dunno what was with the guys at HEY today...they sucked bad for the most part).

The changes to the gameplay involved the medal value when dropped. Rather than getting knocked back to 100 when you've dropped a 10k medal (i.e. Raizing), this time it'll go down to just 1k. If you drop a 3k medal, it'll go down to 300, etc. I think they made this change after seeing how much easier it was to lose medals in this game (expect huge points from this one).

I also noticed the rank not being quite as severe. I saw players dying and avoiding medals and the game was still pretty harsh. Still, when I was rocking huge chunks of pork gold the game pushed me right back. This is not an easy one, I promise. I think we should all be used to the fact that the first two stages of any Cave game generally aren't too mean, it's stage 3 and up that it gets hairy.

Since I could hear the music now, I can say confidently that it sucks, except for the kickass boss theme.

I know many people are upset that this isn't another military macho shooter, but if you can ignore the humor you'll find a very fun game. It's really a blast to play and very satisfying when you're scoring well. This is unfortunately my last day in Japan so I won't be playing the finished product for some time, but I look forward to the day when I can add the game to my library.

Thank you for your impressions on this! For me it will probably be another few years for me to get my hands on it to try it out. Do you think it has potential to be ported?

NTSC-J · Post by **NTSC-J** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:34 pm

Nah. If a Cave game were to be miraculously ported it'd be Mushi Futari or Galuda II. This and Pink Sweets don't have a prayer (unless Mihara falls in love with it and can work out the 'deadly slowdown').

mulletgeezer · Post by **mulletgeezer** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:49 pm

I was in the HEY today too and had a couple of credits on MMP - it seems nice enough though nothing amazing. Best score/distance today was 30 million/stage 5 boss I think.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:14 am

NTSC-J wrote:rocking huge chunks of pork gold

I can't help but wonder if this phrase had ever been used in the English language (or any language) at any point in history up until you typed that.

Post by **Icarus** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:43 am

BulletMagnet wrote:I can't help but wonder if this phrase had ever been used in the English language (or any language) at any point in history up until you typed that.

Expect to find it on packs of pork scratchings very soon.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:50 am

What were the lines like? I still don't think I'll make it. Too busy cleaning up fountains of piss.

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:33 am

BulletMagnet wrote:
NTSC-J wrote:rocking huge chunks of pork gold
I can't help but wonder if this phrase had ever been used in the English language (or any language) at any point in history up until you typed that.

I've coined new phrases as "chunks of pork gold" and "muchi muchi-cally"!

elvis · Post by **elvis** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:18 am

NTSC-J wrote:Nah. If a Cave game were to be miraculously ported it'd be Mushi Futari or Galuda II. This and Pink Sweets don't have a prayer (unless Mihara falls in love with it and can work out the 'deadly slowdown').

Cave need to choose a more sensible platform for home releases than the notoriously difficult PS2.

mulletgeezer · Post by **mulletgeezer** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:29 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:What were the lines like? I still don't think I'll make it. Too busy cleaning up fountains of piss.

not so bad. there were usually about 3 in the queue yesterday, it increased to around 4 tonight. that's quite a long time though as most players end their games somewhere between the third and fourth bosses, and I'm not sure the game is interesting enough to justify such a long and boring wait.

mrkotfw · Post by **mrkotfw** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:41 pm

elvis wrote:
NTSC-J wrote:Nah. If a Cave game were to be miraculously ported it'd be Mushi Futari or Galuda II. This and Pink Sweets don't have a prayer (unless Mihara falls in love with it and can work out the 'deadly slowdown').
Cave need to choose a more sensible platform for home releases than the notoriously difficult PS2.

Wii? Isn't the Xbox loathed in Japan?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:51 am

Piratero wrote:Wii? Isn't the Xbox loathed in Japan?

Yeah, that controller is fantastic for arcade games.

99pence · Post by **99pence** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:01 am

This game looks great, we need more cute or unusual looking shooters. Not just the usual dreary ambiguous style most shooters are these days.

The main thing is thank fuck the characters in the game aren't more annoying, apathetic, moody anime characters. We'd like some personality please.

Monk 0 Nuggets · Post by **Monk 0 Nuggets** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:26 am

GaijinPunch wrote:
Piratero wrote:Wii? Isn't the Xbox loathed in Japan?
Yeah, that controller is fantastic for arcade games.

Well, you could use the classic controller, or you could use a stick via the gamecube controller ports. Just an idea.

mulletgeezer · Post by **mulletgeezer** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:56 am

So I went to see the game again while the HEY was less busy and I know a little more about it now. This game has a lot of milking potential; There are a number of mid sized enemies that release drones that can be destroyed for lard power, also bosses have multiple parts that can be milked for drones. NTSC-J wasn't kidding about the rank in this game - it's shocking. There was a guy playing yesterday who very cleverly targeted single enemies with lard to get his medals up to max value before the first midboss, but then the rank became so bad (especially the first boss, very nasty) he lost all his lives by the start of stage 2, and he looked like a very skilled player. Although this game isn't an obvious winner like Mushi Futari I think it could go down well with Raizing fans.