The WORST Shooter you have ever played...

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Apidya. Z-Out. Katakis.

Now go to your room.
Don't worry, I have played them all. Only the C64 version of Katakis though.
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And you really think those are the worst you have ever played?

That leaves but three possible explanations: a) you haven't played very many shooters b) you pretend to have a unique taste, while you really just enjoy arguing c) you have no taste

I hope it's a) or b). :P
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Where did I say said games are the worst I have ever played? I said German made games in general, meaning that I think most of those games exhibit something that is typically German and that I find dull and boring. If there really exists such a thing as a German mentality when it comes to shmups is up for debate though. Certainly it would be part of a larger European mentality that have people bowing down before R-type (and to a lesser extent Nemesis) as if it was the be all and end all of shmups. It's the same thing here in Norway too. I will admit that I find danmaku's equally boring.

As for a, b or c: Yes I am pretending to have taste... :D
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320x240 wrote:Where did I say said games are the worst I have ever played?
The worst shooters. You said so here:
320x240 wrote:Worst shooter I have ever played? The German made ones...
Since you said you have played Apidya, Z-Out and Katakis which are German, they are ipso facto the worst you ever played.
320x240 wrote:I said German made games in general, meaning that I think most of those games exhibit something that is typically German and that I find dull and boring.
That's an inane generalization.

PS.
I can think of lots of German games that are fun: The Turrican series, Giana Sisters, The Settlers, Chambers of Shaolin, Wings of Death, Lionheart...
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Ceph wrote:That's an inane generalization.
No, it's simply a generalization. I find a well delivered generalization to be an excellent starting point for a discussion. Especially at this day and age when the art of dialectics have gone completely out of fashion.
Ceph wrote:PS.
I can think of lots of German games that are fun: The Turrican series, Giana Sisters, The Settlers, Chambers of Shaolin, Wings of Death, Lionheart...
I never said Germans can't make good games. I have only talked about shmups. That said, out of the games you mention I only find Giana Sisters to be fun. Lionheart looks good though. Thalions best game where No Second Prize. That was a very good game.
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coco silpheed is worse than whatever you said.
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I think the Worst shmup i've ever played, if you can even call it one, is Dark Star for the c64 by MasterTronic. (European game originally)

You have to get to the end of one single long level with randomly placed enemies which can kill you cheaply if you have bad luck. You are killed by wall collisions as well. You only have one life. And, to add insult to injury, the paths diverge into dead ends with only one path correct. MANY TIMES.

Not only that but after the first 3 or four divisions you have to snake through paths barely wide enough for your ship to fit though to cross over to the proper side of the screen to avoid a crash!

they are perfect diagonals. the screen auto scrolls one character block at a time. theres barely enough time to move one character blocks width in one frame. SO it requires pixel perfect timing just to get through one of those crossovers. And of course you don't get a map. youhave to memorize the path through. and do it without getting killed cheaply by an enemy ramming you from the side as you come out of a crossover.
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unsane wrote:Possibly some more food for the sadists, via shmup.com's Hall of Shame:


Gunship 0.19 (30 votes)
Legion 0.29 (8 votes)
Deep Blue 0.35 (22 votes)
The Hunt for Red October 0.43 (41 votes)
Gadget Twins 0.71 (12 votes)
D-Force / Dimension Force 1.00 (6 votes)
S. S. Mission 1.03 (12 votes)
Acrobat Mission 1.04 (22 votes)
1945 I&II The Arcade Games 1.21 (18 votes)
Galax 1.32 (7 votes)
Rock On 1.33 (4 votes)
R-Shark 1.47 (18 votes)
Game Paradise 2 1.67 (15 votes)
Gunner's Broom 1.77 (8 votes)
Sagaia 1.81 (9 votes)


I removed the non-shmups i know about, probly missed a couple.
I don't think GP2 looks that bad...I mean, it still plays the same as the first only with 3D.
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Varia Metal is very boring, but somewhat good looking. There's like a five second pause after every "group" of enemies destroyed.

And Acrobat Mission is nowhere near bad.
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Those slow basic programmed shooters for the graphing calculators that show "you win" when a single level is cleared.
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doctorx0079 wrote:coco silpheed is worse than whatever you said.
You know, coco means poop in portuguese, so that's just too much hilarious to me.
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Post by Zuhzuhzombie!! »

Strikers 1945 series.

I'd rahter just play the 1942 series, thanks.
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Django! wrote:Strikers 1945 series.
Another congratulations for reply-by-context (as opposed to reading the topic title)!

I can understand how somebody might not like the Strikers games, but ranking them the worst is just silly
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im probably going to get death threats for this one...

Mars Matrix.

Its ugly, its boring, and if can survive long enough makes me wonder why the hell i bothered.

Only shooter ever to do that to me.
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i cant believe i just read this whole thread....

worst game ever....who cares...im gonna go play a good game(mushi) to clear the memory of this ordeal from my mind......

and seriously....the title says worst game....not what games you hate.....jeez.....i would like to punch whoever started this thread almost 3 years ago in the face....

you just stole 30 mins of my life..... :evil:

fuck it....worst game.....99% of horis

eat it....arent opinions great
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jonny5 wrote: fuck it....worst game.....99% of horis

eat it....arent opinions great
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the 1 % being progear no arashi and blazing star....and death smiles looks great but sadly i havent played it so reserve judgement for when the price drops more

stop crying khoa......lolz
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I can think of a lot of shmups that didn't do anything for me. Games like Twin Bee Yahoo!, Batrider... shmups that I just didn't like, and felt that they were flawed or just a knock off of a better game. However, this isn't about game's we don't like... it's about ones that suck.


Vertical= Divine Sealing (MegaDrive)- I don't know what the story is for this game, or why clothing just seems to fall off of the women in the cinemas, but it's just bad. Bad sounds, bad music, bad graphics, bad gameplay... bad bad bad. Even The Earth Defend has a quirky charm with it's simplicity, but DS is just a plastic turd.

Horizontal= R-Type III: The Third Lightning (GBA)- Even XDR on the MegaDrive is better than this game, as at least XDR is playable. The port of the SNES classic is botched on virtually every level. The music is broken, the graphics are glitchy, the hit detection is atrocious, and thanks to the playing area being noticeably smaller, it's basically impossible to get past one of the later levels without cheating. It's a shame such a great SNES, was turned into this.
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What's with all the Strikers 1945 hate?

I know, they're not the best, or even NEAR the best shmups... But they have a certain charm to them I cannot deny. Every once in a great while I love to pop one in and just mindlessly blow through it.
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i really like the deisgn of the games and the ships and bosses look cool.....but as for gameplay....i dunno.....

not my fav but certainly not the worst
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jonny5 wrote:fuck it....worst game.....99% of horis

eat it....arent opinions great
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gennss wrote:Mars Matrix.

Its ugly, its boring, and if can survive long enough makes me wonder why the hell i bothered.
I feel the same way, although I wouldn't rank this one of the worst games either
The Coop wrote:Horizontal= R-Type III: The Third Lightning (GBA)- Even XDR on the MegaDrive is better than this game, as at least XDR is playable. The port of the SNES classic is botched on virtually every level. The music is broken, the graphics are glitchy, the hit detection is atrocious, and thanks to the playing area being noticeably smaller, it's basically impossible to get past one of the later levels without cheating. It's a shame such a great SNES, was turned into this.
Can't be as bad as that one Euroshmup (I think it starts with a P).

Or the shmup sections of Thunderbirds (yay Gerrymation, boo boring shmup sections).
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I'll never understand these "worst game" threads.
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apart from many doujins one of the worst i played so far was espgaluda.
I have no idea why so many people are addicted to it. According to others i just have no taste (i got told this pretty often), so it has to be me, not the game :P
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When I was a kid I test some 'worst game ever' shooters, but the worst shooter I bought in the last years is, with no doubt, Last Hope in DC.
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Most Comad games suck. But worst ever.. That's gotta be Ghost Pilots.

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retre wrote:When I was a kid I test some 'worst game ever' shooters, but the worst shooter I bought in the last years is, with no doubt, Last Hope in DC.
very very true...we shall see if dux takes that title away..... :?

and i completely forgot to add border down to my list of good horis....up to 3 now :roll:
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emphatic wrote:Most Comad games suck. But worst ever.. That's gotta be Ghost Pilots.

Emph
Ghost Pilots > 1942 ps3 incarnation
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Post by retre »

jonny5 wrote: very very true...we shall see if dux takes that title away..... :?
Sadly looks the same, but honestly this time I will not spend money or time with it.


Oh, Xenon II for Master System was a trauma too.
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retre wrote:When I was a kid I test some 'worst game ever' shooters, but the worst shooter I bought in the last years is, with no doubt, Last Hope in DC.
i am one of those sad, lonely creatures who enjoyed Last Hope.
@elf: what was your problem with galuda? i just got the pcb and i am totally in love with this game.
could you explain your opinion a bit?
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Post by elfhentaifan »

the score system is one big failure, it looks boring to me, the atmosphere doesnt suit me aswell, and espare wasnt better
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