TRP-STGT 2015 Conversation Week 4: Zing Zing Zip (1 Loop)

[Zerst]

2nd loop replay.

Top quality final boss.

Jesus christ that looks stupid.

[Blinge]

lol j3lly beans so random!!!!11one XDDDDDDDD

[KoopaTGR]

Amidst all the flaws this game has, my favourite design choice has to be the powerups only changing colour if they hit the side of the screen.

[EmperorIng]

Way too many lightning-fast bullets (including the horrendous visibility, of course) which will require you to bomb constantly, I'm pretty darn sure that there are many situations where bombing is virtually the only way to survive. Stage 6 features incredibly cheap rocket formations (like the ones in the previous stages, but much faster - if you don't sit in just the right position you're dead) on top of that.

I haven't even made it to stage 5 but I am definitely feeling this. It's as if you have to pull off the awkward invincibility maneuver to pass through some waves, or just constantly use your bombs. The bullet visibility in this game is horrendous and it drags down the entire experience from "ok I guess" to just plain sloppy.

[Shepardus]

2nd loop replay.

Top quality final boss.

What in the world, no wonder why that wiki ProjectAKo mentioned listed it as harder than a Dodonpachi 2-ALL. And to think someone actually made it to 4-3...

[ProjectAKo]

And they only rated the first loop. If they counted the second it would be even higher. Here's the games near it, according to japanese wiki opinion

Battle Garegga (HARDER mode)
Dodonpachi Daifukattsu
Strikers 1945 PLUS (2-ALL)
Space Battleship Gomora
Ikaruga (HARD)
Raiden 4 (2-ALL)
Zing Zing Zip (1-ALL)
Batorantis (2-ALL)
Dodonpachi (2-ALL)

The game is just incredibly fuckin unfair, and trap only picked it because it contains cock rock

[DKA_Darius]

worest shmup game I play I think, I really don't like this game, and when I hit the boss, the picture of boss will flash my eyes.

[EmperorIng]

The game is just incredibly fuckin unfair, and trap only picked it because he likes cock

I fixed that for you. The ship's movement is shit. The way the bosses jerk around the screen, exploiting your ship's shit movement, is shit. The poorly-colored bullets (that can only be seen in a black-and-white stage) are shit.

I am certainly so glad this year's tournament has its own Sengeki Striker week.

[Squire Grooktook]

I haven't felt anything odd with the movement. I didn't realize the game becomes such a mess later on though.

[copy-paster]

This game is shit, it delivers everything I hate in shmups. Worst enemy placement, almost-unssen and lightning speed bullets with danmaku patterns, I wonder how the 2nd loop looks like.

[Shepardus]

I wonder how the 2nd loop looks like.

Look no further:

2nd loop replay.

Top quality final boss.

The bullets are practically Psikyo-fast.

Also, question that's been on my mind: what does the voice say when you destroy a boss? To me it sounds like "I'm the Führer!" (okay maybe that's "I'm the hero," but that's not as fun now is it)

[Heavy Viper]

Sounds like "I'm the hero~!" to me. stealthedit me while I'm postin' eh why i oughta

The chick with the bombs is admiral "jellybean" of the rebels. The lore of this game is incredibly deep and fulfilling.

My theory was that since one of the pilots is basically an English caricature they were going for "jolly good, old bean!" Figured they ran out of memory and had to edit it down to "jolly-bean" as a last resort.

Still going to hold on to that in my headcanon for this game, tbh.

[ProjectAKo]

I made all that shit up by the way. But I think it's probably true since she's inside the bomb crate and tossing bombs around. Also isn't the last boss one of those famous images of preserved heads? I can't find the image though.

[EmperorIng]

I made all that shit up by the way.

This puts you about on par with the game's designers, though.

[Perikles]

Im taking it easy this week. The game is just too good to grind on.

ProjectAKo - 939,750 - 7 - 1P - Shmupmame 4.2

That was an evident lie if there ever was one.

Does anyone know what determines the drawing on the huge battleships in stages 2 & 7? Is it random? Has it any meaning or importance?

[Heavy Viper]

I made all that shit up by the way.

This puts you about on par with the game's designers, though.

Come on, jelly-bean.

[ProjectAKo]

Im taking it easy this week. The game is just too good to grind on.

ProjectAKo - 939,750 - 7 - 1P - Shmupmame 4.2

That was an evident lie if there ever was one.

Does anyone know what determines the drawing on the huge battleships in stages 2 & 7? Is it random? Has it any meaning or importance?

Didn't even get the clear. That's taking it easy

[Ikazu-san]

This game has a very fast fall from hilarious bad to terrible bad.

[trap15]

[EmperorIng]

man I can't wait for meme-game week 5.

[vasilvv]

And they only rated the first loop. If they counted the second it would be even higher. Here's the games near it, according to japanese wiki opinion

Battle Garegga (HARDER mode)
Dodonpachi Daifukattsu
Strikers 1945 PLUS (2-ALL)
Space Battleship Gomora
Ikaruga (HARD)
Raiden 4 (2-ALL)
Zing Zing Zip (1-ALL)
Batorantis (2-ALL)
Dodonpachi (2-ALL)

The game is just incredibly fuckin unfair, and trap only picked it because it contains cock rock

Where can I find the full list?

[KoopaTGR]

Where can I find the full list?

http://www.wikihouse.com/stg/index.php? ... 0%EC%CD%F7

This is slightly different to the example but mainly the same.

[ProjectAKo]

It's in japanese but feel free to ask if youre looking for something in particular. It's pretty interesting to read. Some games have strangely impossible second loops and stuff and I had no idea.

[vasilvv]

Ah, finally found Zing Zing Zip on the list. It's acutally above Donpachi 2-ALL, and not Dodonpachi 2-ALL (which is at difficulty 39, above ZZZ and DOJBL 2-ALL among other things). That definitely makes more sense now.

The full list is very interesting. I should take some time to translate it one day.