Meteos and the puzzle genre

alpha5099 · Post by **alpha5099** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:26 am

Tetris is all you need in life. Not just for puzzle games. Any game. Tetris is the only game you need. Imagine, I might've been learning calculus in math class, instead of playing on my TI-83. Hail to Tetris, the greatest game of all time.

All the Puyo Puyo games are great, too. And Bust-a-Move/Puzzle Bobble is also the shit. Mouja (often mistranliterated as Moujiya) is fucking brilliant. It's like Puyo Puyo, but with kitties and Japanese coinage. Money Puzzle Exchanger is its better known cousin, which takes the same concept and applies it to Magical Drop, another great game. Personally, I think MPE fails at matching the excellence of either game it rip-offs. For more great cat action, Uo Poko is great stuff, quite possibly Cave's finest hour. And they recently rehashed it with Mushihime Sama, so it's probably easy to find in Japanese arcades and might even get a console port (calloo callah!).

I'm ambivalent toward Puzzle Fighter. I've never gotten really comfortable with the combo system. But one major problem is that there's no solo play mode. I would really like to just play myself, not having to worry about trash blocks.

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:50 am

PaCrappa wrote:
Davey wrote:And nobody mentioned Mr. Driller yet? Sacrilege.
Buncha fucking bedwetters at this forum. Don't know a real puzzle game from shinola. Any Mr Driller title (even the GBC one) kicks the absolute shit out of all titles/series' listed in this thread. You people need to get out more. Thank me later.

The only thing that approaches Mr Driller quality is Star Trigon. Which, not so coincidentally, also happens to have been developed by Project Driller.

Pa

Are there any ports of said game? Or some reviews and pics? The ones on system16.com are a bit blurry...Thanks in advance.

and mr.Driller G >>>> *

Imhotep · Post by **Imhotep** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:56 pm

there was some information about Star Trigon on the Fanitsu board (which seems to be down?

).

However, here you find what you need:

http://paleface.net/cgi-bin/gdb/n.pl?c=482

PaCrappa · Post by **PaCrappa** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:11 pm

Ah memories... Those videos at Paleface's place were taken the day after I got home from Tokyo with my fancy Star Trigon board.

Pa

alpha5099 · Post by **alpha5099** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:11 pm

Daaaamn, that looks like a great game. Ima go play Drill Land.

PaCrappa · Post by **PaCrappa** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:40 pm

Seriously. All I ever play is Driller Ace and Star Trigon. They're all I care about. I honestly believe that Mr Driller (any) and Star Trigon are the very best games in existence, regardless of genre, developer, region etc. I can't wait to finish Driller Ace so I can move on to Drill Land!

Pa

FatCobra · Post by **FatCobra** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:38 pm

Meteos is awesome. I wonder how good is that DS Mr.Driller?

Nothing can top the Game Boy Tetris however.

I wish Nintendo would make a DS Tetris with the original music from the Game Boy verison.

jp · Post by jp » Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:58 pm

Mr. Driller: Drill Spirits = yay!

FatCobra · Post by **FatCobra** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:35 pm

Interesting little tidbit about: The guy that came up with the idea for Meteos is the same guy that helped create Super Smash Bros!! The menus and title theme instantly remind me of Melee.

I think Meteos is also a Nintendo franchise, so will we see a sequal or maybe one of those little Geolyte dudes in the next Smash Bros?

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:07 am

oh yeah, if you live in the UK, don't worry about importing Drill Spirits. From what I heard, the European version has everything the Japanese version has. Only the US version is missing single cart multi and the Dristone mode.

Meteos is owned by Q Entertainment. The reason the guy who helped create Smash Bros worked on it is becuase he left HAL for that company. Nintendo only published Meteos in the US.

alpha5099 · Post by **alpha5099** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:10 am

Oh man, I definitely need to get Mr. Driller Ace. I love Drill Land, but I barely touch my GameCube and even less frequently play DL, even though it's a blast everytime I play. But throw in some portability, I can definitely see myself playing that game all the fucking time.

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:14 pm

Can't beat Puzzle Bobble 2 for me. Later editions added too much to the mix, 2 is simple, pure, and designed by a sadist.

And more Driller love. Words fail to describe the pull this game exerts once it's gotten it's claws into you.

Tar-Palantir · Post by **Tar-Palantir** » Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:59 pm

Plotting/Flipull?

jp · Post by jp » Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:21 pm

BrianC wrote:oh yeah, if you live in the UK, don't worry about importing Drill Spirits. From what I heard, the European version has everything the Japanese version has. Only the US version is missing single cart multi and the Dristone mode.

Must import...

BUHA · Post by **BUHA** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 2:50 am

Magnum Opus, you're my hero for linking to that Lumines download! Never played the PSP one (or ever plan to!) but this game is friggin awesome!!!

Vexorg · Post by **Vexorg** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:33 am

FatCobra wrote:Interesting little tidbit about: The guy that came up with the idea for Meteos is the same guy that helped create Super Smash Bros!! The menus and title theme instantly remind me of Melee.

I think Meteos is also a Nintendo franchise, so will we see a sequal or maybe one of those little Geolyte dudes in the next Smash Bros?

No, Nintendo published the US release, but Bandai still owns the IP as far as I know.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:11 am

jp wrote:
BrianC wrote:oh yeah, if you live in the UK, don't worry about importing Drill Spirits. From what I heard, the European version has everything the Japanese version has. Only the US version is missing single cart multi and the Dristone mode.

Must import...

yeah, we in the US got shafted when it comes to Mr. Driller. The battery was removed from the US GBC Mr. Driller, Mr. Driller G, Mr Driller Ace, and Mr. Driller Drill Land stayed in Japan, Mr. Driller DS is missing drill stone and single cart multi from the EU and JP releases, and Mr. Driller 2 just came to the US a few months ago (It was a launch game in Japan and came to Europe much earlier). I'm glad I imported Mr. Driller Ace. If I had a DS, I would be importing Drill Spirits too, though I'm thinking of just impoting it anyway. I really want to get the GameCube one, though. Connectivity with Mr. Driller Ace and a variety of modes not in other Mr. Driller games. Mr. Driller G sounds like a good choice for an import too. However, I have no idea how much it goes for or if it has redbook audio or not. For the us in the US, importing is the best way to go for Mr. Driller. Europe has it better, but I think they may be missing G, Ace, and Drill Land too.

Speaking of Bandai, there was a very odd port of Mr. Driller for Wonder Swan. It missing the time attack mode like the GBC version and it doesn't seem to have tate. I was disappointed what what I tried of it. It's not bad, but it could have been so much more.

D · Post by D » Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:07 am

spf2x Saturn is HARD. Not for beginners at all. Great music.

Tetris 4D for Dreamcast is the only 4-player tetris on the DC.

Tetris Online for Dreamcast sucks every ass ever thought of. max 2 players

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:15 am

Super Bust-a-move for PS2 was a piece of shit, i've heard. a friend of mine rented it, he said Bust-a-move '99 (which i own, for PSX) was much better.

as for a suggestion: bust-a-move 99, and Twinkle Star Sprites for DC.

PaCrappa · Post by **PaCrappa** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:17 pm

It ain't like Bust a Move 99 is the gem of the series or anything. The first four are all better. I like the first and the fourth best. 99 is fine but I see that one as starting the downhill slide that the series is currently on. And it really isn't that much of a downhill slide but the glory days are definitely long gone for that series.

Anyone who likes Puzzle Bobble/Bust a Move would do well to check out Pop 'n Pop for Taito F3 or PSX. That is a true underrated gem in the puzzle genre.

Pa

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:10 pm

PaCrappa wrote:It ain't like Bust a Move 99 is the gem of the series or anything. The first four are all better. I like the first and the fourth best. 99 is fine but I see that one as starting the downhill slide that the series is currently on. And it really isn't that much of a downhill slide but the glory days are definitely long gone for that series.

Anyone who likes Puzzle Bobble/Bust a Move would do well to check out Pop 'n Pop for Taito F3 or PSX. That is a true underrated gem in the puzzle genre.

Pa

Umm...Bust A Move '99 is actually Puzzle Bobble 3DX. It's a special version of Bust A Move 3. It's not Bust A Move 5. I think it's lame how the PSP Puzzle Bobble doesn't even have two players (according to a review I read anyway).

PaCrappa · Post by **PaCrappa** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:06 pm

BrianC wrote:Umm...Bust A Move '99 is actually Puzzle Bobble 3DX. It's a special version of Bust A Move 3. It's not Bust A Move 5. I think it's lame how the PSP Puzzle Bobble doesn't even have two players (according to a review I read anyway).

Really? Dang, I guess I don't like 3 as much as I like PB and PB4 then. I obviously haven't played it much if I thought 99 was a whole new game. I'll have to do the side by side with Bust a Move 3 and 99.

Pa

FatCobra · Post by **FatCobra** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:06 pm

For those that have Meteos, which is your preferred control method? I tend to use the D-Pad more, but I have been using the stylus and I find that I can get better scores out of it, but it's not as fun as mashing the buttons in a hetic manner. Also, what's your favorite planet so far? I like Yooj at the moment.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:25 pm

PaCrappa wrote:
BrianC wrote:Umm...Bust A Move '99 is actually Puzzle Bobble 3DX. It's a special version of Bust A Move 3. It's not Bust A Move 5. I think it's lame how the PSP Puzzle Bobble doesn't even have two players (according to a review I read anyway).
Really? Dang, I guess I don't like 3 as much as I like PB and PB4 then. I obviously haven't played it much if I thought 99 was a whole new game. I'll have to do the side by side with Bust a Move 3 and 99.

Pa

Yes. I haven't played 3 too much, but from what I heard, it's too similar to PB2. 4 added that cool pulley system. I admit that I like the GBA Super Bust-A-Move, though (though I do think the new art and characters are lame).

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/data/196851.html

PaCrappa · Post by **PaCrappa** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:28 pm

I liked Super Bust a Move (it might've had a number after the name but I'm drawing a blank) for PS2 well enough. It's not total shit, it just doesn't match the greatness of its predecessors. Which is hard, so hey.

Pa

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:44 pm

Pa, what is the going price on Star Trigon? I am intrigued. Nothing quite like learning about a new gem.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:13 pm

forgot to mention - Quarth for gameboy. obscure, yet addictive.

EDIT: oh, and it's by Konami. it has the Ultra label, though. ^^;

PaCrappa · Post by **PaCrappa** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:01 pm

Valgar wrote:Pa, what is the going price on Star Trigon? I am intrigued. Nothing quite like learning about a new gem.

Well I got mine about a year and a half ago from Mak for like $85 US. It was never as popular as the Driller games so I bet it's cheaper by now. If you enjoy puzzle games in general and appreciate the Driller aesthetic, you can't go wrong. I have had this in my cab for four months straight now.

Pa

PaCrappa · Post by **PaCrappa** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:11 pm

WTF? I found my BaM 99 but I can't find my PB3 anywhere. I actually thought I had a PB3 and BaM3 sitting around but I've got neither. Weird.

Pa

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:15 pm

Zweihander wrote:forgot to mention - Quarth for gameboy. obscure, yet addictive.

EDIT: oh, and it's by Konami. it has the Ultra label, though. ^^;

There was a recent remake of Quarth in that Goemon DS game. I still don't know if it's based on the arcade or GB revs of the game, though.