STGT'12 Week 2 Voting: Toaplan Week

[cj iwakura]

Alfa System week should be delightful.

[ratikal]

V-V has checkpoints. You know, the most unfun mechanic in shmups ever? Batsugun has bitchin' music. Vote for that.

[njiska]

V-V has checkpoints. You know, the most unfun mechanic in shmups ever?

You make a somewhat convincing argument.

[Naut]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNPALYWuM9A

Look at this. Just look at it. I don't know how this could possibly look appealing to anybody to score in.

V-V is survive and collect items, Batsugun is dirty boss milking worth a massive chunk of your score. Vote V-V.

[emphatic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNPALYWuM9A

Look at this. Just look at it. I don't know how this could possibly look appealing to anybody to score in.

V-V is survive and collect items, Batsugun is dirty boss milking worth a massive chunk of your score. Vote V-V.

In this tournament only the first two loops count. This can get very creative (figuring out what parts give the most points and suiciding there?) and of course, the music is awesome.

[Chaos Phoenixma]

It's still a completely terrible idea.

[Naut]

This can get very creative (figuring out what parts give the most points and suiciding there?)

Oh boy, I'm teeming with excitement.

[ebarrett]

(figuring out what parts give the most points and suiciding there?) and of course, the music is awesome.

why not just vote Garegga instead then

[ChainsawGuitarSP]

Shmups farm kiddies: "I cannot be fucked suiciding for score unless you respawn right where you die with all your powerups dumped back on top of you because being punished for dying is just unacceptable in a genre known for difficult, unforgiving gameplay."

[sikraiken]

Shmups farm kiddies: "I cannot be fucked suiciding for score unless you respawn right where you die with all your powerups dumped back on top of you because being punished for dying is just unacceptable in a genre known for difficult, unforgiving gameplay."

Why didn't you join STGT? You are one of these "shmups farm kiddies" for not joining.

[Chaos Phoenixma]

The game just doesn't look fun at all. And restricting play to 2 loops seem just arbitrary.

I really hope it's one of the other 2.

[trap15]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNPALYWuM9A

What a scrub, he doesn't even kill all the enemies in stage 1.

[SuperSoaker360]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNPALYWuM9A

Edge-of-your-seat action.
Landing in random enemy bases. What a badass.

[Ed Oscuro]

Landing in random enemy bases. What a badass.

Lies! All battlefields are conveniently laid out so that there is a support station immediately after a huge tank with giant guns, so you can exchange all your extra bombs for points. Nobody fires at these bases by agreement. It's in the Geneva accords.

[DrInfy]

To be honest, all of these games look like crap, so can we just skip this week altogether and go to week3? :p

[sikraiken]

To be honest, all of these games look like crap, so can we just skip this week altogether and go to week3? :p

What do you want to play?

[SuperSoaker360]

What do you want to play?

Paperboy

[sikraiken]

Come on, seriously. Paperboy is an RPG.

[Drachenherz]

Come on, seriously. Paperboy is an RPG.

No, it's a racing sim with RTS elements.

[DrInfy]

What do you want to play?

To clarify, I've never played played any of these games (nor probably any game we're playing in this STGT), but boss milking and suiciding aren't exactly the most fun scoring methods. I think I also hate the gradius power bar system with checkpoints more than anything in shmups. I don't think paperboy has any of these, so even that would probably be better...

[emphatic]

Ignore my post about suiciding in Flying Shark. It was a half-joke.

[trap15]

Ignore my post about suiciding in Flying Shark. It was a half-joke.

This.

Now everyone pick it so that I don't have to play that piece of shit V-V.

[gs68]

STGT'12 Week 2: Shot management

V-Five sounds fantastic with the sound now, though.

It does? Since what version? ShmupMAME 2.2 doesn't have it and probably not ShmupMAME 3 (which flips a coin every time my laptop boots to determine whether it's gonna run anyway), and I've been evasive of newer MAME releases.

[Illyrian]

STGT'12 Week 2: Shot management

V-Five sounds fantastic with the sound now, though.

It does? Since what version? ShmupMAME 2.2 doesn't have it and probably not ShmupMAME 3 (which flips a coin every time my laptop boots to determine whether it's gonna run anyway), and I've been evasive of newer MAME releases.

I've played it on shmupmame 2.2 before, played it this morning infact.

[Chaos Phoenixma]

If it's anything but V-V, I'll be pretty disappointed. I don't want such an extremely important boss milk like in Batsugun and the other game just looks like it sucks.

[trap15]

I don't know how it's humanly possible to think Hishouzame sucks. It's one of the single best Toaplan games in existence, if not one of the best shmups.

[Klatrymadon]

V-V doesn't have any sound in ShmupMAME for me, either, but I've just tried it in MAME 0.143u7 and it sounded great. You might want to give that version a try, gs68. It should work fine - I'm running it on a shitty old laptop.

[Jaimers]

I don't know how it's humanly possible to think Hishouzame sucks. It's one of the single best Toaplan games in existence, if not one of the best shmups.

I think it's possible by just looking at it.
Apart from that it doesn't even have bosses there is literally not a single bullet on screen for over a minute.

On stage 4

[Limbrooke]

In this tournament only the first two loops count. This can get very creative (figuring out what parts give the most points and suiciding there?) and of course, the music is awesome.

Only two loops? That's too bad as otherwise milking checkpoints doesn't sound too interesting given that's essentially the only way to differentiate scores. It's a tough game and generally if some players would be able to acheive counterstop it could be possible to see how far one gets (versus the Mars Matrix route). I don't think many people would be jumping at the bit at this endurance test possibility either in contrast to checkpoint milking so it's almost a zero sum outcome with Flying Shark.

Having said that V-Five is a good call since little is known about it and only has 2 rounds. Batsugun normal would be a real points squeeze/bomb+live hoarding event although only being 5 stages could be appealing due to shorter length of the run.

[Ruldra]

Basically, next week boils down to:

Hishouzame: Find which checkpoint gives the most points and milk it
Batsugun: Milk Jupiter
V-V: No-miss + collect all crystals

I expect a lot of frustration no matter which one is picked.