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Bar81 · Post by **Bar81** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:51 am

judesalmon wrote:Emulation having a negative sale on retro games has NO affect on the videogames industry whatsoever.

BUT emulation does have a *very* real effect when companies are still whoring out their old properties on compilations and as hidden bonuses in games. A person who may have otherwise bought the game may not because the game/bonus game he wants to play is already emulated and playable on his xbox, pc, etc. Of course, if the person still has the original system and game then that doesn't apply but then again there would be no need for emulation in that scenario.

btw, I totally agree with the above post noting that buying a second hand game does nothing for a game company as the only person making money off the deal is the second hand seller.

judesalmon · Post by **judesalmon** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:41 am

Bar81 wrote:
judesalmon wrote:Emulation having a negative sale on retro games has NO affect on the videogames industry whatsoever.
BUT emulation does have a *very* real effect when companies are still whoring out their old properties on compilations and as hidden bonuses in games.

Is that a bad thing?

FatCobra · Post by **FatCobra** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 4:21 pm

This problem is very deep and can almost be considered the core problem of the game industry as a whole: how to handle games that have become history? For an industry to function as an industry, there has to be a constant demand for new products. People content with playing old games again and again are a disturbing factor to the business model at hand. So you can almost say that games with such a replay value making them timeless classics are actually a "mistake", from an industry point of view. The sooner they become forgotten, the better for current game sales. And emulation is a force fighting against this oblivion. For a medium to become a significant part of culture, it has to have a history. Therefore, disregarding emulation because it might hurt sales in some ways is actually short-sighted, there is more at hand.

This might explain why alot of current games feel so...."throwawayable." You play them and forget about them so you buy next month's flavor of the week. Mainstream videogames don't seem very "collectable" nowadays. I'm not trying to start a old school vs. mainstream flame war, but I find older stuff like SNES games much more enjoyable, more......fun. I am starting to get sick of tried of most new games, and maybe I'm just growing out of this hobby. I just want to enjoy the classics I played as a kid, back when I thought the magic of videogames was still alive.

As for emulation, sure it's great and you get to try out games for FREE, but it just doesn't feel right, not as good as holding the console's controller in your hands and playing it on a TV.

PaCrappa · Post by **PaCrappa** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 6:04 pm

Dylan1CC wrote:Gamefaqs peeps seem so uncivil I'd think they'd be "pirate warz roxorZ!!!!" all the way. I haven't read much of the thread but that "Mike Haggar" kid seems like a real whiner. "Ohhh, why don't you wear your 'pirate hat' and eye ptach when you play your games!!!" What an overzealous little nerd.

I've never looked at a Gamefaqs message board in my life and I can see quite clearly that "mike haggar" is being sarcastic. Armed with that bit of knowledge, it's hard not to laugh. He's actually pretty funny.

Gilbes is a whole lot more patient than me.

MAME rules. I wouldn't have a huge monthly storage bill if I hadn't first played MAME, made me a shopping list and then started buying up all the good PCBs. And even though I do have a shit-ton of boards, I'm still thinking about building a MAME PC to hook up to my cabinets.

Pa

Andi · Post by **Andi** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 6:12 pm

PaCrappa wrote:I've never looked at a Gamefaqs message board in my life and I can see quite clearly that "mike haggar" is being sarcastic. Armed with that bit of knowledge, it's hard not to laugh. He's actually pretty funny.

Agreed. It makes me realize that he just clowned on this entire board too, since we are bothering to take him seriously and isn't even doing so himself.

PaCrappa · Post by **PaCrappa** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 6:17 pm

The internet is always more fun when you don't take yourself seriously.

Pa

Bar81 · Post by **Bar81** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:38 pm

judesalmon wrote:
Bar81 wrote:
judesalmon wrote:Emulation having a negative sale on retro games has NO affect on the videogames industry whatsoever.
BUT emulation does have a *very* real effect when companies are still whoring out their old properties on compilations and as hidden bonuses in games.
Is that a bad thing?

I don't care either way, but if it does affect sales, rights owners are justified in their legal actions. I'm just pointing out that since it's their property they actually do have the right to whore it out and make more money off of it, kind of like how the DVD movie makers release like 50 editions of each movie. If you don't want to buy the remake then buy the original home conversion on the system of your choice but if you would have bought the compilation/new game due to the old property but didn't because you could emulate it, the rights owners have every right to be pissed and sue.

mannerbot · Post by **mannerbot** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:09 pm

lol

This board is as bad as GameFAQs. kewl.

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:41 am

Anyone that still thinks emulation and piracy are awesome, I have 2 words for you: Dark Saibot He's your poster child, nuff said.

FatCobra · Post by **FatCobra** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:54 am

Emulation is good when you want to try out some old games you've never played before. It's not good for regular playing because for me, it just feels....fake. I guess I like holding the actual cartridge in my hand than looking at a 1MB rom file that I easily downloaded. Sure, I could have emulated all my old SNES games, but where's the fun in that, especially since Accutron was so nice to simply me give me an SNES when he heard that I was a victim of the "mother sold your old stuff without your knowing for real cheap at a garage sale" syndrome. It's so much better to play the real thing than it is to play some ROM on a disk or hard drive.

Now, it's a different story if you have a laptop, you have the ultimate portable!! As long as the battery holds out of course.

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:21 am

Nemo wrote:Anyone that still thinks emulation and piracy are awesome, I have 2 words for you: Dark Saibot He's your poster child, nuff said.

Oh god, not that thread... please no...

judesalmon · Post by **judesalmon** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:13 am

Piracy - bad.

Emulation - good (in certain circumstances).

mannerbot · Post by **mannerbot** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:43 am

Cthulhu wrote:
Nemo wrote:Anyone that still thinks emulation and piracy are awesome, I have 2 words for you: Dark Saibot He's your poster child, nuff said.
Oh god, not that thread... please no...

I rather like it myself.

Andi · Post by **Andi** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:49 pm

Nemo wrote:Anyone that still thinks emulation and piracy are awesome, I have 2 words for you: Dark Saibot He's your poster child, nuff said.

You know, I've never heard anything else from the guy, but based on that thread alone, I'm inclined to agree with what he says.

Dynamite Force · Post by **Dynamite Force** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:26 am

I view emulation the same way I view marijuana; far away with binoculars on. That way you can see the entire picture instead of just what the bad people do.

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:37 am

I believe that is one of the dumbest threads ever created on gamefaqs. No doubt there'll something even more stupid in the near future. Just like the "Street Fighter 3rd Strike is arcade perfect on the dreamcast! Input lag doesn't exist!" crap that was back there a few months ago. Everyone knows the xbox version feels different.

Oh well.

D · Post by D » Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:47 am

I understand why people get infuriated by gamefaqs.
But just realize that it is just one big cheat/faq garbage belt and power to it.

Can't we all just be glad that there is just one centre to find it all and not divided between others like gamewinners, etc.

I have never felt the tendency to post there anyway.
Even writers of faqs are sometimes completely clueless, not to mention reviewers.

But they do have an opinion and if you have nothing to go by than it is something.

OK you guys SHMUPS forum rule.
They suck.

All those who complain should make gamefaqs better and post faqs and codes and flame other posters there when you egventually have something posted and brag about it and stuff.

I tried to provide faqs a while ago but there were some curse words in there and I was banned and I swore never to post there again. Now I leach them dry

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:50 am

Elixir wrote:I believe that is one of the dumbest threads ever created on gamefaqs.

...and I created it.

If you want another dumb thread, check this out (I only posted in it, I didn't create it this time :p )
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmes ... c=21274556

Cthulhu · Post by **Cthulhu** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:36 am

iatneH wrote: If you want another dumb thread, check this out (I only posted in it, I didn't create it this time :p )
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmes ... c=21274556

Classic. I just had to play off of that one.

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:26 am

Wow, thanks for that comment! I'll have to go pick up some blue filters at the dollar store sometime :D

...and also populate my house with red objects..