The Pope after next is the anti-Christ

Vexorg · Post by **Vexorg** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:12 pm

Even as a conservative, I find NewsMax to be full of crap 95% of the time.

sffan · Post by **sffan** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:20 pm

gigadrive32 wrote:
the False Prophet is supposed to cause people to follow & worship the Anti Christ.

That sounds pretty cool. I can't wait to see how that pans out.

MovingTarget · Post by **MovingTarget** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:29 pm

MovingTarget wrote:oh well

I think my point needs to be reiterated

Seriously I think it sums up this topic quite nicely

The n00b · Post by **The n00b** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:23 am

I hereby appoint myself the first atheist pope. My people will gather once a week where we will make fun of the other religions and call whoever doesn't agree with us a redneck or an ignorant dumbass. We will push our views on other people and dismiss it as "educating people."

I'm just kidding but a few atheists on this board walk around like they belong to fundamentalist muslim/christian/jewish sects.

freddiebamboo · Post by **freddiebamboo** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:38 am

My mate and his missus just left for Rome for a holiday to "get away from it all".

He booked it like weeks ago. Now he can't wait to get back

MovingTarget · Post by **MovingTarget** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:56 am

Heres a little game I just made up

List as may doom and gloom stories as you can, I'll start :

Global Warming
Global Dimming
Super volcanoe
er... persistant volcanoe
mayan 2012 end of calender (oh my god theres no mayans left to make a new one!)
Millenium bug
101 previous end of the world predictions(uh that was a bit of a cop out hehe)
Potential landslide locations set to cause tsunamis
The colapse of the global economy in 2006
The antichrist and mark of the beast on our forehead predictions(already in america some soldiers and babies are having microchips implanted in them so they can be located, sounds like big brother to me but i really dont know enough about that....)
I knomw theres more, tell me more

Specineff · Post by **Specineff** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:13 am

^^ There are still a few mayan people down there in Mexico, who don't even speak spanish. Though they are not full-blooded mayans, they'd be happy to make a calendar for you for 50-60 pesos. Around 5 bucks.

Stormwatch · Post by **Stormwatch** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:34 am

Vexorg wrote:Even as a conservative, I find NewsMax to be full of crap 95% of the time.

I go there just for the late night jokes.

Nuke · Post by **Nuke** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:00 pm

The n00b wrote:I hereby appoint myself the first atheist pope. My people will gather once a week where we will make fun of the other religions and call whoever doesn't agree with us a redneck or an ignorant dumbass. We will push our views on other people and dismiss it as "educating people."

I'm just kidding but a few atheists on this board walk around like they belong to fundamentalist muslim/christian/jewish sects.

Who?

Cugel · Post by **Cugel** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:12 pm

The n00b wrote:I hereby appoint myself the first atheist pope. My people will gather once a week where we will make fun of the other religions and call whoever doesn't agree with us a redneck or an ignorant dumbass. We will push our views on other people and dismiss it as "educating people."

I'm just kidding but a few atheists on this board walk around like they belong to fundamentalist muslim/christian/jewish sects.

So, if someone doesn't agree with you they're a "fundamentalist". And if you understood what an atheist is, you wouldn't use an oxymoron like "atheist pope". And none of the posts by atheists are pushing any viewpoint on anyone. If anything, the "religious" posters are making anti-Catholic statements and making fun of the Pope.

And it's really annoying when people can't post opinions and are called "fundamentalists" if they don't agree with everything a self-appointed Ayatollah of Truth states as fact.

The n00b · Post by **The n00b** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:41 pm

Cugel wrote:
The n00b wrote:I hereby appoint myself the first atheist pope. My people will gather once a week where we will make fun of the other religions and call whoever doesn't agree with us a redneck or an ignorant dumbass. We will push our views on other people and dismiss it as "educating people."

I'm just kidding but a few atheists on this board walk around like they belong to fundamentalist muslim/christian/jewish sects.
So, if someone doesn't agree with you they're a "fundamentalist". And if you understood what an atheist is, you wouldn't use an oxymoron like "atheist pope". And none of the posts by atheists are pushing any viewpoint on anyone. If anything, the "religious" posters are making anti-Catholic statements and making fun of the Pope.

And it's really annoying when people can't post opinions and are called "fundamentalists" if they don't agree with everything a self-appointed Ayatollah of Truth states as fact.

If they can't warp their minds around the fact that not everyone has to think the same way, yes they are a fundamentalist. If you understood what an athiest was, you would see the stupidity in people claiming to be "atheists" acting like they are forming their own super elite religion. Your last statement just sounds weird. Like you've been caught or something...

I also think it's annoying when an Ayatollah of Truth runs over everyone with their opinion and can't live with people with different opinions.

Cugel · Post by **Cugel** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:20 pm

The n00b wrote: If they can't warp their minds around the fact that not everyone has to think the same way, yes they are a fundamentalist. If you understood what an athiest was, you would see the stupidity in people claiming to be "atheists" acting like they are forming their own super elite religion. Your last statement just sounds weird. Like you've been caught or something...

I also think it's annoying when an Ayatollah of Truth runs over everyone with their opinion and can't live with people with different opinions.

This post is too weird and illogical to even comment on.

sffan · Post by **sffan** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:56 pm

The n00b wrote: Your last statement just sounds weird. Like you've been caught or something...

I thought Cugel made perfect sense. This statement is weird ^^^.

JBC · Post by **JBC** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:33 am

I don't believe in all that smackity crap. I think everything is infinite, including time. If the world ends because some powerful entity decided he was God and it's judgement day then i guess that's just the same as an asteroid bashing into the planet or a ninja trouncing my rose bushes. Fucking ninjas.

What was i saying?

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:24 am

The incredible PopeMan!

http://theage.com.au/news/World/Another ... click=true

Diabollokus · Post by **Diabollokus** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:05 pm

Maybe after the last pope a single world united is born without any religion! Just imagine the perfection of a single unified society no religious prejudice Argh! he ate my scared Goat!!!, or any of that no surrender crap in my country.

But Yes, Pay tribute to a man who guided many.

As the man said whatever happens its a win win situation after 112.

The n00b · Post by **The n00b** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:13 pm

Diabollokus wrote:Maybe after the last pope a single world united is born without any religion! Just imagine the perfection of a single unified society no religious prejudice Argh! he ate my scared Goat!!!, or any of that no surrender crap in my country.

But Yes, Pay tribute to a man who guided many.

As the man said whatever happens its a win win situation after 112.

hahahahaehehehehohohoho good one... Mankind is flawed. It's not religion that messes us up, it's just our messed up human nature. We even manage to screw up the notion of a "lack of religion." Even if this utopian notion of a world without religions comes to pass, we'll come up with something else. It will start with little "clubs" and will evolve from there. Soon we'll be right back where we started. Someday though, I hope mankind evolves to the point where this silliness is no longer necessary.

Nuke · Post by **Nuke** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:34 pm

"hahahahaehehehehohohoho good one... Mankind is flawed. It's not religion that messes us up, it's just our messed up human nature."

And yet religion is a byproduct of our messed up human nature.

We even manage to screw up the notion of a "lack of religion." Even if this utopian notion of a world without religions comes to pass, we'll come up with something else.

To quote a great robot: "What do you mean we, mammal?
So, your admitting that religion is a human "flaw" and the lack of it is "utopian"?
And note that organized religion and independent religion is not the same thing.

It will start with little "clubs" and will evolve from there. Soon we'll be right back where we started. Someday though, I hope mankind evolves to the point where this silliness is no longer necessary.

Well that is a point, but I would rather keep the debate on an intellectual ground than have an "ultimate" conclusion.
Why?
A debate, even a bloody one is better than the alternitive.....

Diabollokus · Post by **Diabollokus** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:29 pm

Everything starts of small from the formation of the universe to larvae of a sunfish/mola (tribute to matt lol) Where is Matt anyway???

I think the issue of a religion isn't the exact thing, its more the perception of that religion, a world of no religion world inadvertantly form its own after awhile its inevitable the human being has this programmed into himself not I mean as a way of comtemplating death or creation of social groupings but rather the human brain has been conditioned to follow a religion like way of life scientists proved this a few years back certain parts of the brain enabled this ''longing follower sensation'' Religion in one form or another will always be present in the world.

Evolution beyond this? Only Answers to the greatest questions such as why are we here, is there a god, will I ever own radiant silvergun or an MR2 turbo TRD 2000GT Revision 5 mk sw2020 Etc can lead the world out of this Circle.

Thats if mankind survive that long 2 more popes ain't long to go.
I heard if theres ever a black pope the world will end, has anyone mentioned that prophecy yet?

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:09 pm

Y'know, it's nonsense like that article gives ALL Christians a bad name.

Of course there are, unfortunately, Evangelicals here in the USA who literally believe that Roman Catholicism is a Satanic Cult, and they'll no doubt play up this article to the utmost; despite Christ's calls for UNITY in the Church.

*ahem*

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:24 pm

Yeah, it's also ironic in that all forms of Protestantism are derived from Catholicism (albeit through disagreements). Makes Christianity feel like a "pick and choose" affair.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:23 pm

That's true, the Catholic Church was the first Christian denomination-the word Catholic actually means "universal".

I personally have no problem with having different denominations, but there's no need to have over 2000 of them, and some of the reasons new ones form are just plain petty and stupid. There are churches now, for example, who are splitting over whether to use traditional hymns or contemporary Christian songs in their services!

As far as stuff like these predictions go, whether or not you're a Christian, please don't even give 'em a second thought. There have always, for example, been Christians who say that they know when Christ is returning, despite the fact that the Bible explicitly says that ONLY God knows when this will happen.

Interesting too, how Christians in this country would NEVER predict an American anti-christ. And if the Pope, who constantly preached love and mercy wasn't a Christian, then the rest of us are, IMO, pretty much doomed.

sffan · Post by **sffan** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:18 am

Ganelon wrote:Yeah, it's also ironic in that all forms of Protestantism are derived from Catholicism (albeit through disagreements). Makes Christianity feel like a "pick and choose" affair.

Religion in general is pick-and-choose if you want, although people tend to believe in the religion they're raised with.

TVG · Post by **TVG** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:08 am

Diabollokus wrote: but rather the human brain has been conditioned to follow a religion like way of life scientists proved this a few years back certain parts of the brain enabled this ''longing follower sensation'' Religion in one form or another will always be present in the world.

just a question, because scientists proved that some act stimulates some part of the brain, it makes the whole thing invalid?

let me use an analogy, because i cant find a better way to put it.
because scientists found that love between a man and a woman stimulates some part of their brain or something, it makes the whole process invalid? can you stimuate this part of the brain by yourself? dont you think the fact that its there is just because some stuff products some shit in our brains, because we aare made to work that way, and it's just the process seen in the physical level?

what do yu think is more subject to look at spiritual things, the fact that your parents told you to pray jesus and that you will go to hell if you're bad, or the fact that we're chemically done to devote ourselves to a higher being?

note, im not assuming anything as i wasnt quite sure what you weeree trying to say (in short you might or might not be trying to discredit "religion" (i use the term loosely))

i am not interested in religious debates, i just want to know what you meant, yea my english s kindda crap so i may have overlooked something.

"I heard if theres ever a black pope the world will end, has anyone mentioned that prophecy yet?"

yea, the world will die, it just cant handle teh funk :p

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:09 am

Cugel wrote:
The n00b wrote: If they can't warp their minds around the fact that not everyone has to think the same way, yes they are a fundamentalist. If you understood what an athiest was, you would see the stupidity in people claiming to be "atheists" acting like they are forming their own super elite religion. Your last statement just sounds weird. Like you've been caught or something...

I also think it's annoying when an Ayatollah of Truth runs over everyone with their opinion and can't live with people with different opinions.
This post is too weird and illogical to even comment on.

I agree! Being an Atheist is not meaning you don't believe in something. It just means you don't believe in (a) god (notice no capitalisation...

).
I am an Atheist...but the emphasis is on "I"! Everyone should believe whatever they choose, just do not force it on other people. No one has that right!

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:40 am

dave4shmups wrote:That's true, the Catholic Church was the first Christian denomination-the word Catholic actually means "universal".

I personally have no problem with having different denominations, but there's no need to have over 2000 of them, and some of the reasons new ones form are just plain petty and stupid. There are churches now, for example, who are splitting over whether to use traditional hymns or contemporary Christian songs in their services!

As far as stuff like these predictions go, whether or not you're a Christian, please don't even give 'em a second thought. There have always, for example, been Christians who say that they know when Christ is returning, despite the fact that the Bible explicitly says that ONLY God knows when this will happen.

Interesting too, how Christians in this country would NEVER predict an American anti-christ. And if the Pope, who constantly preached love and mercy wasn't a Christian, then the rest of us are, IMO, pretty much doomed.

It wasn't the 1st. Cathlic church was created after the division of the Orthodox Church of the Easten Roman (Byzantine) Empire.

Even if Pope wasn't a Christian, doesn't mean a simple none cleric man can't be a real Christian.

Jesus never talked about Popes with silk-golden robes, Archbishops in huge cathedrals, priests, Saint, Relics, Icons, frankincense, etc... which most Christian dogmas worship.

Tar-Palantir · Post by **Tar-Palantir** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:04 pm

Diabollokus wrote:Maybe after the last pope a single world united is born without any religion!

You're making me think of Radiant Silvergun

ST Dragon wrote: Even if Pope wasn't a Christian, doesn't mean a simple none cleric man can't be a real Christian.

Nobody's denying that.

Diabollokus · Post by **Diabollokus** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:24 pm

I think about Playing Radiant Silvergun all the time.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:30 pm

Be careful what and who you label "fundamentalist", noob. Just because someone expresses their beliefs does not make that person a fundamentalist. Now, if they're yelling it in your face, then that just makes them jerks.

Fundamentalist Churches are those who add in prohibitions that the Bible doesn't contain. For instance, churches that prohibit dancing-go back and look in the Old Testament, and you'll see lots of examples of the ancient Israelites dancing to celebrate God's goodness.

Another example would be churches who prohibit the drinking of alcoholic beverages of any kind.. While the Bible considers drunkeness a sin, it does not prohibit drinking alcohol at all. Jesus turned water into wine, not Odoul's!

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:52 pm

But arguably, even churches who find polygamy sinful are fundamentalist since it's accepted in the Old Testament and never once explicitly stated to be wrong in the New Testament (despite assumptions based on the fact that having more than one wife is never mentioned in sacred matrimony). On the other hand, divorce without moral grounds is a sin yet almost 1/3 to 1/2 the people in the US have gone through divorce. Just more "pick and choose from Bible" decisions in today's society. Where's the faithful adherence to religion?