TRP-STGT 2014 Conversation Week 1: Raiden Fighters

[EmperorIng]

I have less time to practice than I thought this week. I can still cheese by with 3million by the first Target stage, but that's nothing special. C'mon team!

[ACSeraph]

^You need to flip over to your second form for the rest of the weekend dude

I'll be doing the same as my obsession with Caladrius fried all of my shmupping brain cells for this week.

[EmperorIng]

Yeah, I totally cheesed it. I'll probably generally ignore the secrets after the first two levels and just try to score with a clear, or as close as possible therein.

At the very least, I can say I like the game. If I had a 360, I'd gobble up that RFA collection.

[Despatche]

i'm tired of not being able to do the most basic of actions

i actually end up playing this week unlike every week in an stgt ever

guess what fucking happens

NOTHING

same fucking scrubby luck score in first ten credits, then dying in stage 1 a billion times for the thousands of credits after

[BIL]

It's all in the wrist. ;3

I would be enjoying myself this fine weekend but new MAME blew up my crummy PC with BSOD, so I had to get into a monumental goat fuck™ with driverz. All good now though! THE BEST FLYING GAME EVER IS BACK

[mastermx]

I propose a new sub-genre within the shmup genre: Restater. A restarter is a game that leads the player down the rabbit hole. A genre that forces them into a schroedinger's cat like state, questioning the what ifs and maybes. This is a genre that makes one consider the possibility of infinite dimensions, some of which include them not messing up their medals in stage 1.

[Sakurei]

This is why I didn't want to play this game. I did my turboscrub-clear with a shitscore. But the improvment for my score is so apparent, easy and all that makes me want to improve it a bit. But at the same time do I not want to play. There were definitely some things that I didn't understand when I was playing (like why the fuck that plane didn't explode and give me all the fairies in stage 2), but other things were me just forgetting about them during the game. Like a whole bunch of Micluses, each giving like 700k or 800k or whatever. Just getting those and ignoring all the fairies would improve my score by a few million. 35m is a free. 40m is minimal effort.

I do not want to play this. But 30m is garbagetier to me

[KAI]

petition to convince TRAP15 to choose a decent game the next week.

[EmperorIng]

You know it will be Gun Frontier.

[PAPER/ARTILLERY]

How lucrative is grazing in this game? It seems damn risky to me but there's a few spots I think I can safely take advantage of it.

[LordHypnos]

You know it will be Gun Frontier.

Obviously gonna be B-Wings

...Nah, he's probably saving that for the last week.

[EmperorIng]

The more I play, the more I would like to actually enjoy this game and play for survival instead of restarting stage 1 99% of time dicking around for medals.

[Blackbird]

Once I stopped being anal retentive about perfect medalling in Stage 1, I found the game to be a lot more enjoyable. I found some of the secrets weren't worth going after because they were a little too suicidal for my skill level, I just ended up ramming bullets every time.

[BIL]

Being a nubcaek, I find activating 100k medals via Airfield's first Miclus a good compromise. Basically get grey medals maxed and slave#1 by the first Forest Miclus, grab slave#2 and activate gold medals at the second Miclus. 20mil minimum is doable on pretty much survival alone from there on. The XTREEM pro method that activates 100ks from Forest's midpoint might cause IRL rank-lowering suicide if you're new, yep.

"Miclus you little fuck! Imma kill ya real slow!"

*cums blue medals all over windshield*

[Aleksei]

You know it will be Gun Frontier.

Oh god no

Gun Frontier 2 on the other hand...secretly playing on the side

[Blackbird]

What I like about this game:
- Awesome visuals and sound.
- Fast Pacing.
- Game is very fun once the medals are locked in.
- Interesting design of levels, bosses, and enemies.
- DEFENDED THE HOUSE.

This makes me rage:
- Weapon effects for some ships are extremely distracting and screen-covering, making it hard to see where your ship is in some situations. I'm looking at you, Judge Spear napalm missiles.
- Counterintuitive medal leveling system.
- Having to dodge power-ups because of aforementioned medal system.
- Restarting Stage 1 over and over because it sets up the rest of the game and can't be ignored.
- Options/slaves are destructible, and get picked off all the time. Losing your options borks your medal chain if it's not at 10k. Furthermore, your craft is extremely underpowered without the options. You're basically useless if you've just got a laser.
- Rank in this game is obnoxious.
- Sniper enemies coming in from behind.
- Enemies shooting when they aren't even on screen yet.

[Blinge]

But 30m is garbagetier to me

Gets 30 mil with apparent ease
Complains about game.
Dude, give it a rest. The comments, not the game.

Also BIL- mysides.jpg

[Cee]

You know it will be Gun Frontier.

To much checkpoint abuse.

[chum]

i just wanna look at pictures of touhou girls in swimsuits
but my brain keeps telling me "play raiden fighters"

unfortunately i always game over on stage 7, usually on the miclus plane

whatever lets keep grinding until i have something more to submit :>

[Icarus]

i just wanna look at pictures of touhou girls in swimsuits
but my brain keeps telling me "play raiden fighters"

Ask trap15 to make a romhack which replaces the Slave with the sprite of Carpet or Reimu. :3

[Despatche]

This is why I didn't want to play this game.

you're a troll, i get it, you don't have to keep screaming it at me

just get 50m and then you really will never have to play this game again

edit: nah he's pretty much a known troll

ONI GUY????????

[trap15]

Not a troll, just kind of dumb.

8h30m until next game.

[Erppo]

- Rank in this game is obnoxious.

The rank is normally always maxed out unless you just died so it's not really something you should care about.

[dunpeal2064]

What fps setting should be used in the 360 port?

[ratikal]

Pick something with good sound emulation please!

RF seems like a solid game and if I had the port, I might've played it a bit more but the sound on MAME just kills it for me. That epic BIG BOSS music is ruined by the poor sound emulation.

[Lilium]

Pick something with good sound emulation please!

Eagerly seconding this.

[DocHauser]

You can use BPzeBanshee's hack with added samples that improve the sound for all the RF games...

http://raidenmame.wordpress.com/

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=46051

[Blackbird]

- Rank in this game is obnoxious.

The rank is normally always maxed out unless you just died so it's not really something you should care about.

Yeah, that was the problem. When I was learning this game and doing practice runs, I would usually die a couple times early on, so the timings and routes I developed were all constructed around the rank being low. Then when I actually got good enough to survive some stages, I got mauled all over again because the rank maxed and the patterns and timings completely changed. I had to completely re-learn the game because I started playing too "well" =P.

i just wanna look at pictures of touhou girls in swimsuits
but my brain keeps telling me "play raiden fighters"

Seriously. I've played Raiden Fighters til my wrists cramped this week and now my brain has gone full shmup >_<. When I sleep, I hear bombs and relentless techno aggression, and at work, I dodged falling items reflexively from the paranoia of incoming sniper bullets.

[Squire Grooktook]

Not a troll, just kind of dumb.

Rarely are those two words not synonymous.

i just wanna look at pictures of touhou girls in swimsuits
but my brain keeps telling me "play raiden fighters"

Should be telling you to go play Mars Matrix, but eh close enough.

[EmperorIng]

Has the deadline passed?


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Now what could next week be?

What will the Taito game be? My money's on RayForce, but I know we can be thrown a curve-ball and be playing RyuJin for a week.