STGT 2k6- Week #6 Poll (Cave Week)

[Rob]

What are the rules for booting someone off of a team?

[professor ganson]

What are the rules for booting someone off of a team?

A benevolent dictator is not governed by rules, though she will conform to the duties of beneficence.

[The Coop]

is like voting for a game just because your teammates did... it makes little sense.

Mind, boggled.

Why?

[Rob]

Picking a game that most people on a team would like to play is beneficial, since it's a team competition.

In the case of my own team, we discuss what we want to vote for before and as the selections pop up.

[The Coop]

Picking a game that most people on a team would like to play is beneficial, since it's a team competition.

Perhaps. But team work doesn't come from everyone putting aside, or staying silent about, their wants in terms of voting for a game. It comes from everyone putting forth their best efforts and helping out when they can with the game that was chosen (that last part was something I forgot about on the first couple games). I'd personally never expect anyone on the team I'm on to do anything with their votes other than choose the available game they'd most like to play, or choose the one they feel they could do the best at. Asking them to put aside their personal choices or tastes, and pick a game they don't like because others in their group do, isn't exactly a good way to run a team in my view. It makes people feel like their opinions aren't valid, and doesn't inspire much in the way of personal initiative to participate.

I'd rather pick the game I want and have it loose, than pick a game I hate and help it win.

[Rob]

It makes people feel like their opinions aren't valid, and doesn't inspire much in the way of personal initiative to participate.

I'd rather pick the game I want and have it loose, than pick a game I hate and help it win.

This is why everyone should give their input. Somehow we've been able to agree on an acceptable choice the previous 2 and current weeks, with the exception of twe. A second favorite is better than the least. There's also the option to wait and see how things narrow down.

[ill6]

I vote ESPRADE.

I can't be arsed rotating a monitor to play Progear (although it is my favorite of these games) and it seems esprade is the most likely vert to win (sadly).

Where are all the modern Cave games??? DOJ, Galuda, Mushi etc. I don't understand the idea of leaving out games because its not in mame. Surely if we vote for the game we want, on the basis that people won't vote what they can't play then we end up with the fairest reflection of what people want and a reflection of what the majority vote is able to play.

[BulletMagnet]

True. It worked well enough on Iron Chef.

Next year I ought to dress up like Chairman Kaga and overexuberantly reveal each week's game. Wonder where we'd manage to get ahold of the accompanying orchestra, though...

[Rob]

and it seems esprade is the most likely vert to win (sadly).

Whoops. Those'd be the unofficial results. Highly unofficial, re: ESP Ra.De.

Surely if we vote for the game we want, on the basis that people won't vote what they can't play then we end up with the fairest reflection of what people want and a reflection of what the majority vote is able to play.

A game could win with a quarter of the participants votes, while there is no guarantee that the other 75% have access to it. I for one don't own any Cave games.

Next year I ought to dress up like Chairman Kaga and overexuberantly reveal each week's game.

Yes.

[howmuchkeefe]

Next year I ought to dress up like Chairman Kaga and overexuberantly reveal each week's game. Wonder where we'd manage to get ahold of the accompanying orchestra, though...

Autumn is a time of flux: It is the yin to spring's yang, nature's final dynamic hurrah before the subdued tranquility of winter.

If memory serves, Guwange is a game replete with autumnal imagery: Falling blossoms and leaves juxtapose images of violence and bloodshed, more anthropomorphic metaphors for the tides of life at their ebbing. What game better exemplifies the inevitable conclusion of the promise of spring? Which team will reign supreme?

The heat will be on!

[Icarus]

Christ, I get back in from a shit day at work (thanks a lot sven666 for putting a downer on my day) and this topic has ballooned. Someone mind summarising it or translating it from moonspeak to English for my alcohol-muddled grey matter? I've ran the past two pages through Babelfish's various language options and all I got was:

moan moan bitch
moan moan whine
moan moan whinge
moan moan girly strop
moan moan hissy fit
moan moan tantrum

Seriously fellas, it doesn't take an idiot to know how to predict the shortlist for developer-centric game weeks (like Cave, Raizing, Psikyo, Taito etc) at least. Given that we've been running MAME-centric, you can easily break down say Cave's shortlist to MAME emulated games, and rule out the very popular stuff to give other games a chance to run. Doing that, we get something like this:

* Donpachi
* Esprade
* Dangun Feveron
* Guwange
* Progear no Arashi

Look familiar?

You know that muscle inside your skull, commonly referred to as the brain? At least try and use it.

As for holding back our votes for this particular week (and most other weeks), that was my request put forward to the team this week, as I wanted to discuss our choice based on our individual competence and confidence with the games. We are not going to vote based on personal favourites (if we did, we'd have 2x Progear, 2x Guwange, 2x Feveron) but rather what we as a team will fare best at, and that has been the case the past five voting weeks. Surely it doesn't take a fricking idiot to see that a good team voting strategy based on collective competence is better than blindly voting in whatever you prefer to play?

And for those girls complaining about me trying to push Guwange, so what? Why should that have any bearing on your vote? If you were influenced by my chattering about the game this past week and then had the gall to complain about it, then that only goes to show how gullible and easily led you are.

--> tl/dr - the above in short <--

Stop whining. Voting tactics are part and parcel of any poll. I suspect that people are bitching because we're one of the few teams that have used voting strategy to our advantage. namakoteam have proven that we can play well regardless of what gets voted in, and we will do it again this week.

Before I forget, for DJI, a relevant image macro:



I'm off to enjoy some Baileys Irish Cream on ice and watch a good DVD. See you all in Cave Week.

PS: Thanks to Edge and DJI for running what has been a fun and drama-filled 12 weeks of competition.

[The Coop]

moan bitch belittlement

[Icarus]

moan bitch belittlement

Agreed. I enjoyed that, let off some steam.
Time to watch Fight Club again.

[Rob]

People interested in an (unofficial unofficial) tally:

Progear: 16
Guwange: 12
DonPachi: 11
Dangun Feveron: 4
ESP Ra.De.: 4

I didn't count professor ganson's post on page 1 or 2, where it sounded like he was deciding between Guwange and DonPachi.

[BulletMagnet]

Consider me ready!

Though I will have to spend a bit more time and whip up a slightly more elaborate version for next year.

[Pirate1019]

People interested in an (unofficial unofficial) tally:

Progear: 16
Guwange: 12
DonPachi: 11
Dangun Feveron: 4
ESP Ra.De.: 4

I didn't count professor ganson's post on page 1 or 2, where it sounded like he was deciding between Guwange and DonPachi.

Neck and neck for second with Progear winning by 4 votes. With Namakoteam still having not voted, it could very well be (almost) anybody's game.

P.S. I felt Rob's report needed a little commentary.

[howmuchkeefe]

lol

Awesome.

[Icarus]

Though I will have to spend a bit more time and whip up a slightly more elaborate version for next year.

Shop your avatar onto a pic of Dracula from SotN.

[Pirate1019]

BM makes the best pepper-eating royalty ever.

[professor ganson]

How much time is there left?

Oh, what the hell: I vote for Guwange.

[Edge]

Ok, I vote for Progear then.

[The Coop]

What is that face from? It looks damned familiar.

[GaijinPunch]

Haha. I was reading the votes cast into the phpbb poll. Not knowing it was a bunch of (random?) dipshits who weren't in the contest voting for ESPRade, I broke out the PCB to get some practice in.

Whoops....

[EOJ]

Great score GJP. What did I tell ya?
Been playing Progear this evening myself, I'm finally getting a feel for the scoring system. Great game.

[ill6]

Bumlips.... Should have counted up before plumping for Esprade.

[namagomi]

my vote goes to progear.

[sven666]

Christ, I get back in from a shit day at work (thanks a lot sven666 for putting a downer on my day)

I'm sorry man.
i just got aggrivated and let it out on you, I apologise.

[Davey]

Surely it doesn't take a fricking idiot to see that a good team voting strategy based on collective competence is better than blindly voting in whatever you prefer to play?

It's more about competitive spirit (or lack thereof) than idiocy. I'd rather play something I actually like. I'm sure that makes me a great team member.

[Icarus]

It's more about competitive spirit (or lack thereof) than idiocy. I'd rather play something I actually like. I'm sure that makes me a great team member.

Then I feel sorry for you when the vote goes against what you want to play, because... you know... there is no "I" in "TEAM". Be selfless, not selfish.

[mulletgeezer]

At the end of this contest would anyone be interested in a showdown on whichever of these games don't get chosen for Cave Week?

I would, if it's open to people not in STGT.

Yep, you're welcome to join. As we now have a massive 4 members interested in doing this then it must be done. I suppose what i'll do is open a thread in scores exactly a week after this contest ends and leave it open for about 2 weeks, same rules as this contest but for 2 or 3 games simultaneously. DF will definitely be in it as i'm keen to compete at that and the game just doesn't get enough love around here, also Guwange or Progear, whichever of the two loses this week's poll.