Touhou 14 demo released: Something about a bomb

[jepjepjep]

there exists a no-miss no-bomb clear for garegga?

Here's a video of a no-miss run:

Battle Garegga - Grasshopper - NO MISS ALL Clear 1/2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVoDv4phxTs

Battle Garegga - Grasshopper - NO MISS ALL Clear 2/2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQS97oNibJE



The final score is 4.3 million compared to 15.9 million WR for that ship. Of course, the player is an expert and he clearly understands the rank system to be able to pull this off, but there's no suiciding at all.

[O. Van Bruce]

oh cool, gotta watch it asap. thanks

And to anyone wanting to cling to that video, I think it's obvious your normal shmuper would have to have cleared the game in the normal way lots of times before trying that no-miss.

[endoKarb]

Here's a video of a no-miss run:

Battle Garegga - Grasshopper - NO MISS ALL Clear 1/2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVoDv4phxTs

Battle Garegga - Grasshopper - NO MISS ALL Clear 2/2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQS97oNibJE

I've always wanted to watch a no-miss run of this game. Thanks a lot for the link!

How did this turn into a Garegga thread anyway?

[O. Van Bruce]

About what is agressiveness, just take a look at my post about TD gameplay system. Those ideas were nice but ZUN used then disastrously for the scoring system :S

bomb bomb trance death... Clean and repeat on the bosses.

[Despatche]

Yep, completely clear how high in his throne he feels. If it weren't for those "dumb kids" Touhou wouldn't be halve what it is.

you're absolutely right. that's why it's a mess of a series that has to focus more on setting than gameplay, except even the gameplay core is corrupted.

you don't understand "flaws", don't understand "history", don't understand "circumstance"; you're the one that's so damned full of himself. you're the elitist here, YOUR MAJESTY, trying to force the status quo down everyone's throats even when it's horrifically wrong to the point of being destructive. AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE DOING.

you are SCUM. you keep telling us you're the "average player"? i know that's not true. and if you were the average, then that average be DAMNED, then there'd be a REAL FUCKING REASON to "hate casuals".

DEFEAT THE KING AND ALL HIS MEN TO STOP THE MADNESS AND RETURN ORDER TO THIS GREAT LAND.

[trap15]

You are now my favorite poster, lgb.

[O. Van Bruce]

I don't even

Is it really that royal and majestic to say what you think?

Is it really that bad to explain each other our positions?

What's really bad about that coment isn't the language you use. It's that you asume I should understand what you are talking about

It seems you aren't allowed to talk here about the games unless you have an university degree about then... The question is who concedes those degrees here?

[Hagane]

I find it really funny to see Cave players complain about how supposedly detached scoring is from survival (or, more accurately, how little survival is worth compared to the other scoring systems, since survival is a scoring system itself) in Touhou, when that's precisely Cave's trademark. Why aren't all you guys trying to 1CC Psikyo games?

If you are going to try to be a cool Touhou hater, at least find a proper reason to do so!

[O. Van Bruce]

I find it really funny to see Cave players complain about how supposedly detached scoring is from survival (or, more accurately, how little survival is worth compared to the other scoring systems, since survival is a scoring system itself) in Touhou, when that's precisely Cave's trademark. Why aren't all you guys trying to 1CC Psikyo games?

If you are going to try to be a cool Touhou hater, at least find a proper reason to do so!

As I told you before I'm a little ashamed for not liking Psikyo games

[Giest118]

I hereby justify everything about Touhou ever by saying the phrase "risk/reward" without explaining how the fuck it applies.

If you don't like it, I do declare that you should take a moment or two to "learn2play."

If you are unwilling to "lrn2ply" then you are what we in the upper class tend to describe as a "filthy casual."

To fix your "filthy casuality," you might consider going "full shmup" so that you can get those "hot bitches."

Now if you will excuse me, I need to spend time with my "cripplewaifu."

[Despatche]

I don't even

Is it really that royal and majestic to say what you think?

Is it really that bad to explain each other our positions?

What's really bad about that coment isn't the language you use. It's that you asume I should understand what you are talking about

It seems you aren't allowed to talk here about the games unless you have an university degree about then... The question is who concedes those degrees here?

look at this shit. THIS RIGHT HERE IS WHY THE FORUM SUCKS.

IT'S CALLED COUNTER-MIRRORISM.

IT'S CALLED YOU HAVE NO POSITION.

NEARLY EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID ON THIS FORUM HAS BEEN MEANINGLESS. THE REST IS DUMB LUCK.

WHY DO YOU THINK I'M EVEN BRINGING ANY OF THIS UP? BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE WAS TOO "NICE" TO SAY ANYTHING, AND I'M NOT THE KIND OF PERSON THAT SHOULD BE SAYING IT FOR THEM.

YOU REFUSE TO LEARN BECAUSE YOU (JUST BARELY!) BELIEVE THAT RIGHT IS SOMEHOW WRONG AND THAT'S ALL YOU CAN FIT INTO THAT SO-CALLED BRAIN. THE SELF AWARDS ITS OWN DEGREES. THAT YOU CONTINUE TO JUMP TO AND OBSESS OVER "ELITISM" SAYS EVERYTHING.

[CptRansom]

I can not stop laughing; this is my new favorite thread.

OH MAN WUT

[BIL]

Whoa. LGB-KUN JUST BEAT DOWN SOME GUY WITH A PHONE

[Yield]

there exists a no-miss no-bomb clear for garegga?

Here's a video of a no-miss run:

Battle Garegga - Grasshopper - NO MISS ALL Clear 1/2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVoDv4phxTs

Battle Garegga - Grasshopper - NO MISS ALL Clear 2/2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQS97oNibJE



The final score is 4.3 million compared to 15.9 million WR for that ship. Of course, the player is an expert and he clearly understands the rank system to be able to pull this off, but there's no suiciding at all.

I've always wondered why the hell it's called a "no miss".

Wouldn't it technically be a "miss"? You missed getting shot down.

[Meseki]

I've always wondered why the hell it's called a "no miss".

Technically it's a "miss", you're missing getting shot down.

I think it was bad English combined with a shortening of "No Mistakes", and then the term caught on before any developers realized it was incorrect. Of course, I'm not sure if that's actually how it came about, but it makes the most sense.

[KAI]

This thread is a no miss.

[CptRansom]

You guys are "miss"-ing the point of this thread: how hard lgb is winning.

[Uzumakijl]

Toho Kids

http://youtu.be/I7fId7MN-7s

[Hagane]

Hey guys, I hate Touhou. Am I cool yet?

[hail good sir]

gats

[KAI]

I foresee 2, no, 3 patches.

[Giest118]

So because so much of this thread is predicated on how a casual shmupper approaches Touhou, I took it upon myself to get the perspective of an actual casual Touhou player. I know the guy, and he has some Normal 1cc's under his belt, y'know, not too bad, but not a super expert. I showed him this thread to get his thoughts on the matter, and he had this to say.

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Jesus christ everyone in this thread is an asshole

Good job guys, you really know how to get into the heads of the newbies. Clearly learnability/accessibility is an important design principal to all of you. :V

[Skykid]

Well wow. If this isn't the best Touhou soiree I've ever seen. So totally baka.

[Synnae]

Is it so hard to like Touhou and other regular shmups at the same time?

I play both of them. Touhou isn't the only shmup I play in the world, but I do like the series, and I play the games on a regular basis, while focusing on different shooters as well.

[O. Van Bruce]

Given how this thread has developed into I'd just want to thank Chum for trying to have a debate over the issue with me. Sorry if my ideas sounded confusing or unestructured. As I told you I was having a very hard time trying to express myself plus some of my ideas evolved during the thread. My main reason to have a debate wasn't to convince other people about what is right and what isn't... It was to know other people's perspective about touhou: Debate just for the pleasure of debating... Were you convinced by my words? Cool, were you not? Now I know another point of view about the issue. It's as simple as that. It's about enriching oneself with other people's opinion.

I hope we can have another thread like this again, with less noise and missunderstandings I hope.

[Yield]

Well wow. If this isn't the best Touhou soiree I've ever seen. So totally baka.

So baka? Don't you mean...

Given how this thread has developed into I'd just want to thank Chum for trying to have a debate over the issue with me. Sorry if my ideas sounded confusing or unestructured. As I told you I was having a very hard time trying to express myself plus some of my ideas evolved during the thread. My main reason to have a debate wasn't to convince other people about what is right and what isn't... It was to know other people's perspective about touhou: Debate just for the pleasure of debating... Were you convinced by my words? Cool, were you not? Now I know another point of view about the issue. It's as simple as that. It's about enriching oneself with other people's opinion.

I hope we can have another thread like this again, with less noise and missunderstandings I hope.

Soooo kawaii desu ka ~

[Cagar]

I estimate, that 90% of touhou players are COMPLETELY blind to flaws of the series? I know you can forgive lots of stuff after you like the game enough, but everyone here are not forgiving anything; they're forgetting

Toho has huge flaws in presentation. CAVE games have some other huge flaws. So do every other shmup.

Get. Over. It.

Also, this lgb stupidity is childish as fuck. He should be banned for the same reason as paradigm or gus, but instead, people laugh and encourage him... because he's defending your favorite game?

[SuperSoaker360]

Toho has huge flaws in presentation.

The main reason why PCB is one of my favourite STGs has to do with its presentation, so I don't know what you're talking about.

Jesus this thread

[Skykid]

2Hu beautiful like diamonds in the sky.

[trap15]

I estimate, that 90% of touhou players are COMPLETELY blind to flaws of the series? I know you can forgive lots of stuff after you like the game enough, but everyone here are not forgiving anything; they're forgetting

Toho has huge flaws in presentation. CAVE games have some other huge flaws. So do every other shmup.

Get. Over. It.

Also, this lgb stupidity is childish as fuck. He should be banned for the same reason as paradigm or gus, but instead, people laugh and encourage him... because he's defending your favorite game?

You don't even know what you're talking about. You're saying this just to make it sound like you know more than everyone. For what it's worth, I can't stand Touhou. Hate most of the games, play any of them once in a blue moon. But I won't sit idly by while people spit ignorant and false memes about the games and their designs.

Also, flaws in presentation? Who the fuck cares. Presentation means nothing. I'd rather take a game with presentation flaws than gameplay flaws, that's for sure.