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Speaking of families: My dad got me into shooting games; when I was younger, he bought me an NES and Flying Shark (called Sky Shark on 'murrikan consoles) and he'd occasionally play 1943, Raiden II, and the like with me at arcades. He'd also regularly rent Genesis and Super NES shooters for me.

These days if I want to show people what a STG looks like I end up having to go the Touhou route to catch their interest. On Easy or Normal; I avoid showing Extra Stages and especially Lunatic. I'm here to show a game as being fun to play, not just as some crazy exhibit.

I could bring up CAVE ports and their novice modes to them, but let's face it: How many friends do we have that are willing to splurge $70+ on an import shooting game?
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i've gotten at least two friends into shmups. when i got my TATE setup and started showing them some games we all got hooked on shikigami no shiro 3 on wii and every time they come over now we try to beat it. haven't yet but we're getting better. also got one into touhou also which is one of my favorites. i've been working on my girlfriends little boys and they really like danmaku death on a tablet. not the best intro into the genre but they seem to love it. even caught the 3 y/o sneaking to play it a 3am. we'll have another on the way soon and am thinking of doing a touhou mobile for the crib. i think most kids really catch on when you show enough interest in it. especially with encouragement. i've noticed mine tend to look for me when they play and love to show me when they do better. my pride in them sharing my interest is something they seem to look for. it's the same when i play igo. they don't really understand everything yet but love to try to play with a 9 stone handicap. the oldest swears he's going to beat me soon. part of it might be that i get pretty excited when they do well and high fives go around and such.
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gs68 wrote:I could bring up CAVE ports and their novice modes to them, but let's face it: How many friends do we have that are willing to splurge $70+ on an import shooting game?
Emulation?
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gs68 wrote:Speaking of families: My dad got me into shooting games; when I was younger, he bought me an NES and Flying Shark (called Sky Shark on 'murrikan consoles) and he'd occasionally play 1943, Raiden II, and the like with me at arcades. He'd also regularly rent Genesis and Super NES shooters for me.
You had a cool dad. My dad wouldn't allow me to buy an NES with my own money. :x I grew up on a farm, and he was worried about these "time wasting" video games keeping me from my chores. When I was older, I purchased a SNES, and he played one match of Street Fighter II with me. This was the verification that he needed that games were what he thought they was. He never picked up a controller again. For some reason, I've spotted a Wii in his house, but I've never seen it used. :shock: I guess the Wii sold to everyone.
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CKR wrote:My dad wouldn't allow me to buy an NES with my own money. :x
It could have been worst. He could have let you and then deny you using HIS electricity to play.
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O. Van Bruce wrote:
CKR wrote:My dad wouldn't allow me to buy an NES with my own money. :x
It could have been worst. He could have let you and then deny you using HIS electricity to play.
Are you speaking from experience?
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CKR wrote:
O. Van Bruce wrote:
CKR wrote:My dad wouldn't allow me to buy an NES with my own money. :x
It could have been worst. He could have let you and then deny you using HIS electricity to play.
Are you speaking from experience?
Unfortunately. Mine was a PC though and it was my mother.
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^My aunt tried to do that with me when I was living with her for the time, about the PSP requiring ginormous amounts electricity to charge. I moved out 2 weeks later.
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nasty_wolverine wrote:^My aunt tried to do that with me when I was living with her for the time, about the PSP requiring ginormous amounts electricity to charge. I moved out 2 weeks later.
Unfortunately, when you are a teen you don't get the option to move out :( . That shit happened to me when I was 16 and I got my first job. The issue wasn't really about the cost of the electricity but that my mother hated videogames with a passion.

Also, the PSP... lol.
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O. Van Bruce wrote:
gs68 wrote:I could bring up CAVE ports and their novice modes to them, but let's face it: How many friends do we have that are willing to splurge $70+ on an import shooting game?
Emulation?
If they even have a powerful-enough PC to emulate 360 games.
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gs68 wrote:
O. Van Bruce wrote:
gs68 wrote:I could bring up CAVE ports and their novice modes to them, but let's face it: How many friends do we have that are willing to splurge $70+ on an import shooting game?
Emulation?
If they even have a powerful-enough PC to emulate 360 games.
Welp, 360 emulation afaik doesn't exist. I was talking about arcade emulation
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The only shooter that I've really found people excited to play is Twinkle Star Sprites. People also seem to really like Geometry Wars 2 and Score Rush.
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My nephews really like 4-player games such as sunset riders. I hope this is a first step towards shmups :evil:
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I've tried, but no success. My sister says she just can't handle all the information. I also tried my cousins, but it's hard to find games that seem interesting enough for them and yet doesn't alarm their parents because of violence or the presence of demons, fairies and all that evil paganic stuff; They don't seem much interested anyways.
Some friends will occasionally talk about ikaruga superplays, the hardest boss video and the like but it's hard to convince them to actually give the games a try.
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O. Van Bruce wrote:Welp, 360 emulation afaik doesn't exist. I was talking about arcade emulation
I wrote:CAVE ports and their novice modes
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Play with them.

Do not make fun of them, while playing. You can do that, when they start beating you.

Do not appraise them, unless they understand.

Otherwise it would be a better idea, to get them to love math, and the joy of technology (not electronics ). Otherwise their are tons of other things to get it into.
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I showed DFK to one guy

"why isn't it fullscreen"
"there is too much stuff on the screen"

then he asked how much I paid for it
I said $30 which is $20 less than I actually did to seem less crazy

he still laughed at me for paying that much for something that could apparently be a free flash game

fucking normalfags i swear
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I play shmups in front of my friends and sometimes they get excited. Weird.
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Bananamatic wrote:I said $30 which is $20 less than I actually did to seem less crazy

he still laughed at me for paying that much for something that could apparently be a free flash game

fucking normalfags i swear
Oh god, I know that feeling. I think I've lied about how much I paid for Deathsmiles when I got a weird look from someone who asked.
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RegalSin wrote:Do not make fun of them, while playing. You can do that, when they start beating you.
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I once famously tried to get the caltrops.com crowd into shmups by having a high-score competition of Blue Wish Resurrection. I had people play on the absolute easiest settings so as not to scare newbies off.

Big mistake. They got bored and started focusing on the terrible spritework. Several of the forum members there are now actively hostile toward shmups.

Were I to do it again, I would emphasize the challenge level (the appeal of shmups) and made it for normal difficulty while saying something along the lines of, "You're probably not good enough for this." Kinda like the original Playstation marketing campaign.
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That's why you start them on Truxton II. Looks simple enough, right?
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Mischief Maker wrote:Were I to do it again, I would emphasize the challenge level (the appeal of shmups) and made it for normal difficulty while saying something along the lines of, "You're probably not good enough for this." Kinda like the original Playstation marketing campaign.
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It's true. :cry: Where once there was Image now only Image resides!

It is the inescapable path of the black man texts
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BIL wrote:It's true. :cry: Where once there was Image now only Image resides!

It is the inescapable path of the black man texts
seeing the reference so often, what is blackman.txt. I tried searching once, didnt turn up anything.
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The inescapable destiny of all who become entangled in the affairs of shmupsfarm

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BIL wrote:The inescapable destiny of all who become entangled in the affairs of shmupsfarm

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Aww man, now I also want to know what was in it......
For noobs reading this now, dont ever go searching for blackman.txt
There be dragons there....
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BareknuckleRoo wrote:
Bananamatic wrote:I said $30 which is $20 less than I actually did to seem less crazy

he still laughed at me for paying that much for something that could apparently be a free flash game

fucking normalfags i swear
Oh god, I know that feeling. I think I've lied about how much I paid for Deathsmiles when I got a weird look from someone who asked.
My sister in law was complaining about how her husband spent $20 on mobile games in a month. She looked at me and asked, "Who would spend that much on video games?" This was just after I bought DoDonPachi Saidaioujou.
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arcade-stg wrote:My nephews really like 4-player games such as sunset riders. I hope this is a first step towards shmups :evil:
There are about 6 kids at the place I work that like to play sunset riders on the computers when their done with their HW. Its fun to see four kids crammed on one key board while I play with my xbox remote with the other two.
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