Question about PS luma cable

[narcispy]

I recently bought one of these Playstation cables for my xrgb2-plus and I'm trying to figure out if this thing is actually JAP or EURO scart. It was the only one she seemed to have available. It doesn't seem to grab any type of display upon configuring it with either my ps2 or ps3. If not, someone know where I can find a JAP one?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161124481581?_t ... ga4m%3DT14

[kamiboy]

Without a doubt it is not JP21.

[BuckoA51]

The fact it says RGB SCART should be the give-away. Just get a SCART to JP21 adaptor.

[narcispy]

Gotcha, I wouldn't be in fact destroying the xrgb2plus if I had plugged that in already right?

[BuckoA51]

Possibly

[Ed Oscuro]

What I've read from others here is that the XRGB series are some of the rare consumer electronics which use the JP-21 pinout for RGB. Almost everything else uses the SCART style configuration.

I'm confused about one thing here, though. To the best of my knowledge, the original PlayStation doesn't support YPbPr component, but RGB. On the other hand, I've never read of the PS2 and PS3 supporting RGB, but instead YPbPr component. What's the application? I find that it saves a lot of trouble to just get a CRT (if you can deal with the space or weight, but then again you're already limited to mostly CRTs with support for the XRGB 2+).

[ApolloBoy]

On the other hand, I've never read of the PS2 and PS3 supporting RGB, but instead YPbPr component.

They do, you just have to go into the system menu to switch from component to RGB.

[kamiboy]

PS2 and 3 most certainly support RGB, as well as component.

[Ed Oscuro]

Ah shit, I mean using an RGB cable (with a SCART-style plug). It's fiddly (at best) to get working as the standard PS2/PS3 component cables don't come with a fourth cable for sync; I certainly didn't have any luck trying to output RGB from the PS2 on the PVM - had to stick to component. I see conflicting things about the PS3 - people say it supports a choice between RGB and YPbPr, but then I read it doesn't output 240p...

But I think the larger question remains - what's the intended use here?

[ApolloBoy]

But I think the larger question remains - what's the intended use here?

Using composite video for sync on the PS1 and PS2 results in some "crosshatching" artifacts (which are especially visible on yellows and oranges), just like what you'd get by using composite video as sync on an RGB-modded N64 or SNES mini. Since the PS1 and PS2 don't have a dedicated pin for composite sync, using luma as sync is the main way to go for perfect RGB. I don't remember if the PS3 has this problem as well, but I can check if anyone wants.

[Ed Oscuro]

I've been quite fortunate in being able to use component from the PS2 for PlayStation 1 games in wonderful 240p. Interestingly, the RetroRGB guy says the PlayStation 3 doesn't output 240p. It comes to mind that there may be a difference between units that have PS1 BC implemented in hardware or software, but then it should still also support 240p for the PS2, I would think. If it's upscaling that to 480p then the XRGB 2+ can still come in handy (if you don't have a 480p native source, but have a PC monitor that handles 640x480) but I would prefer to just pick up a nice tube instead.

Sorry to take over the thread with this!

[narcispy]

But I think the larger question remains - what's the intended use here?

Honestly I'm just trying to play around with the XRGB. I have it but only use it for SNES but figured I'd like to see how it looks playing my PS1 games on, since that's what I mainly collect. I have an interesting multicable that came with my XRGB that can already output from the Playstation (as well as other devices) but it looks horrible on both the SNES and PS2/3. So I went ahead and got a separate cable for the SNES and noticed vast improvements. I was just trying to find the proper Playstation one.

Here's the cable that came with the device:

http://i.imgur.com/9Qlh89g.jpg

Oh and the xrgb still works, just tested it.

[Ed Oscuro]

My question is more about what kind of display you are using to play the games on. The XRGB 2 series is nice, but it's not always the best solution. I would always use component cables on a tube television before the XRGB 2+ if there is direct compatibility, for example, even if said television has a VGA input (unless you needed support for different resolution than that offered by the component inputs).

[narcispy]

My question is more about what kind of display you are using to play the games on. The XRGB 2 series is nice, but it's not always the best solution. I would always use component cables on a tube television before the XRGB 2+ if there is direct compatibility, for example, even if said television has a VGA input (unless you needed support for different resolution than that offered by the component inputs).

40" Samsung LED mostly. Which does a decent job with it for most 240p applications, it doesn't like supporting the 47khz option very well. Anyways, I'm about seconds from purchasing a XRGB mini but I figure I'd get the cables already, and sell the XRGB 2+.

[Ed Oscuro]

Yep, you've got this all figured out.

Though you might consider keeping around the XRGB if you can find any nice CRT monitors. However, my own XRGB 2 hasn't gotten any use since I picked up a PVM (which isn't much, if at all, heavier than a Trinitron computer monitor in the same size).