1st person space shooters

[joe_w]

hey all i was wondering if any of you guys have played any good 1st person space shooters (I don't even know if it would be considered a shmup; I am new to the genre). Are there any good ones on either the ps1, ps2, or ps3? Thanks

[Squire Grooktook]

First person generally isn't considered to be shmups (in the same way rail shooters or run and gun shooters aren't), but I do imagine many people here have a fondness of Doom and Quake, which might as well be shmups honestly.

You might want to try Star Wars Rogue Squadron 2 on Gamecube (the first one on n64 is good too iirc), you can switch between third and first person views. Vanquish on PS3 is in third person shooter where you play as a power sliding space warrior, and it really does feel like a shmup at times.

[Gespenst]

I assume he was talking about Starblade or Galaxian3 and such.

Okay, maybe Star Luster and Star Ixiom too, but they're more a space sim like Wing Commander.

[Ghegs]

Moved thread to Off Topic.

[LEGENOARYNINLIA]

Check out Star Luster. I like it.

[BobbyNewmarkiii]

None for console as far as I'm concerned. Rogue squadron games are as good as you will get, and they're not a patch on their PC relatives. See if you have a machine to run x-wing alliance, freespace 2, they r the best in genre.

[Obiwanshinobi]

I'm under impression that you need TPP and FPP views alike to get the most out of Rogue Squadron II: TPP for quick turns, FPP for precise aiming (it's more nuanced than this, but you don't need to know all the details beforehand). In controls menu, DISABLE auto-levelling and auto-something. It's a challenging game and you need to be in the fullest control possible.
It is also a game rushed to meet the PAL GameCube launch and it shows. Don't expect a very polished product.
Rogue Squadron III allows you to play almost all missions from II in split-screen co-op, as well the vintage vector games in a virtual arcade (the only somewhat faithful official home versions).
It's worth mentioning that before Strike Suit Zero, I haven't seen a 3D space shooter looking as good as Rogue Squadron II&III. Sure, FreeSpace 2 and Omega Boost look pretty amazing, but when new techonologies arrived, the genre wasn't in vogue anymore and only those two (and a half) games picked up the baton of looking nice within space shooting range.

[Gespenst]

If you have £200 to burn and don't mind some hyperrealistic space physics, Elite: Dangerous singleplayer alpha has just been released recently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KAJuR5giGo

If you like Minecraft and whatnots, try Starmade alpha (free, but pretty functional. For now.)
http://star-made.org/

If you want something more complicated, you might want to try things like Frontier:Elite 2 and/or Frontier:First Encounters, or even X3:Terran Conflict and its expansions. Don't buy X:Rebirth yet since it's still pretty much a buggy trainwreck; better wait for another year until Egosoft done fixing most parts and adding new stuff here and there.

For console, aside Rogue Squadron there are Colony Wars series (PSX) and Project Sylpheed (Xbox360).

Not entirely space shooter, but this should be in everyone's watch list.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRpDn5qPp3s

Expect loads of space games (not only spacesims) coming out on next year onwards.

[Koa Zo]

Rez

[BrianC]

Okay, maybe Star Luster and Star Ixiom too, but they're more a space sim like Wing Commander.

Star Luster is closer to Star Raiders on the Atari 800. Fun game, and good looking pseudo 3D for an early FC game. It's streamlined compared with Star Raiders, but it does a good job of it (one button for a quick speed up during base areas instead of using 0-9 to adjust speed). Very similar destroy the base/enemies on map gameplay, though it adds the element of having to go to planets to search for a key in adventure mode.

Not sure if you are looking for arcade or sim, though. For something more arcade-ish, there's Star Fox SNES, Star Fox 64 N64, Zaxxon 3D SMS, and the Rogue Squadron games.

[Ruldra]

X-COM Interceptor. Mix of the typical X-COM management thing with space dogfighting. Love that game.

[Obiwanshinobi]

Not FPP (at least I don't recall using this view), but I enjoyed Freelancer. Neither as pretty*) nor as varied as it should be, but the dogfighting is very arcade-y, intense. My favourite description is "GTA meets Diablo in space".
Spaceflight combat sim fans have dissed it as too "consolised" or something like that, but it's a computer game to the bone (joystick isn't even supported, only keyboard and mouse).
Some say aftergame is where it's at, but I stopped playing after the staff roll. Would like to re-play it on harder difficulty, though.

*) By no means bad looking game, but the hardware design is uninspired (mildly put).

[Specineff]

I wonder if Star Wars Battlefront II counts, since it can be played in first person too.

[Gespenst]

Welp, I can't believe I forgot to post this at the very first place.

http://www.mobygames.com/game/sega-32x/shadow-squadron

[joe_w]

hey thanks everyone for your replies what would you guys say is the best graphically for fps in space?

[Gespenst]

what would you guys say is the best graphically for fps in space?

You mean this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlIWJlz6-Eg

[Ed Oscuro]

Well, it's not spaceships (or rather, you don't sit at their controls), but anybody remember this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpD6pkA83k8

[Lord Satori]

It's an old game but I think Descent (I think it had sequels, too) was one of those.

[joe_w]

thanks for the suggestions regarding the good graphics ones, but I don't have a gaming PC You guys know any for consoles that have good graphics? (I have pretty much everything but xbox systerms)

[Gespenst]

You guys know any for consoles that have good graphics? (I have pretty much everything but xbox systerms)

Not much sadly, I think the most recent and the last one for console is Project Sylpheed and that's for Xbox 360.

Can't remember whether PS3 has ANY space sims though, but I do recall PS2 has Battlestar Galactica and a couple of mediocre Star Trek games.

If you're looking for some free space sims with graphics, you might want to try Wing Commander Saga and Diaspora. Haven't tried both of them personally but I've heard tons of good things about Diaspora (which is, FYI a Battlestar Galactica total conversion of Freespace 2).

If you don't care about eye candy at all, you might want to wait for this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63RG1qmItG8#t=0

[Obiwanshinobi]

As stated before, Rogue Squadron II looks VERY good. From what I've seen, only Strike Suit Zero matched it in this regard.

I don't have a gaming PC

Freespace 2 and Freelancer are pretty old games that - in theory anyway - should run fine on very modest machines (see Freespace 2 Source Code Project). Make no mistake - Freespace 2 is a looker. Freelancer can be very pretty as well.

Last but not least, play Inago Rage. There's a very good free demo floating around. Unfortunately, demo doesn't seem to output resolution any higher than 1024x768 (won't look that good on most modern LCDs I'm afraid), but it's THE first person space shooter. Oh, and you need a mouse to play it properly. Touchpad won't do.

[greg]

If he's talking about games like Colony Wars and Rogue Squadron, the one game I really want to save up money for is the elusive Stellar Assault SS for the Saturn. I'll forgo the Mega CD version and just go for the Saturn one. Holy crap, that game looks amazing. As a lover of Colony Wars (at least the first one), I really wish I had known about this game 12 years ago when I was living in Himeji and a certain game store was literally liquidating Saturn games for 1,000 each. I wonder if I could've nailed that game back then? Now it's 10,000 yen or more.

[null1024]

If he's talking about games like Colony Wars and Rogue Squadron, the one game I really want to save up money for is the elusive Stellar Assault SS for the Saturn. I'll forgo the Mega CD version and just go for the Saturn one. Holy crap, that game looks amazing. As a lover of Colony Wars (at least the first one), I really wish I had known about this game 12 years ago when I was living in Himeji and a certain game store was literally liquidating Saturn games for 1,000 each. I wonder if I could've nailed that game back then? Now it's 10,000 yen or more.

Mega CD? Stellar Assault is Super 32X power [and one of the best 32X games, in looks and gameplay -- which is slightly depressing, really ]. Although, I want to play the Saturn one -- will probably resort to emulation with prices like that [and I'd need to get a new Saturn, which I've held off on for some reason, probably because I want the sexy white one, haha].

[joe_w]

Sorry I forgot to check this thead and reply. Thanks for the suggestions I'll check them out!

[greg]

Mega CD? Stellar Assault is Super 32X power [and one of the best 32X games, in looks and gameplay -- which is slightly depressing, really ]. Although, I want to play the Saturn one -- will probably resort to emulation with prices like that [and I'd need to get a new Saturn, which I've held off on for some reason, probably because I want the sexy white one, haha].

You're right. I actually just saw this at the Mandarake Galaxy shop in Nakano a few days ago on my latest trip to Tokyo. For some reason, I thought that this game was a Mega CD, or maybe one of those Mega CD/32X games. It wasn't a bad price (under 4,000 yen), but I have no desire to buy a 32X. Aside from this game, Space Harrier, and maybe Star Wars Arcade, I do not see a point in ever getting a 32X.

Stellar Assault on the Saturn is pricey, but it doesn't command the same as some other games like Hyper Duel and even rarer games like Shinrei Jusaishi Taroumaru. It's going for about 8,000 yen on YAJ currently. I may want to get it in the next few months.