Fudoh's ode to old display technology

[Lawfer]

Anyone buy from ebay and had it shipped? Did it come OK? Any sellers you can recommend?

I bought one for shipping from one country of the European Union to another, it was shipped inside its flight case it arrived okay but one of the leg was broken (this would not have happened had the legs been unscrewed prior to placing it in the flight case.)

If you want one shipped, be sure to have it shipped inside a flight case and ask the seller to unscrew the legs.

[Fudoh]

National shipping is ok. Just don't have it shipped using a parcel service, but have it moved on a wooden palette by a truckage or forwarding company. This way you can be rather sure that it doesn't get thrown around.

[Lawfer]

National shipping is ok. Just don't have it shipped using a parcel service, but have it moved on a wooden palette by a truckage or forwarding company. This way you can be rather sure that it doesn't get thrown around.

Isnt this sort of service ALOT more expensive especially if the request comes from an individual instead of a buisness?

[Fudoh]

I can't imagine. Over here it's reasonable. You pay about 60 EUR for a 50kg shipment on a palette. The parcel services max out at 30+ kg over here anyway. I would also suggest to check the car sharing websites. If you have somebody driving from city A to B anyway, just pay for his gas and have him take a monitor along.

[Lawfer]

I can't imagine. Over here it's reasonable. You pay about 60 EUR for a 50kg shipment on a palette. The parcel services max out at 30+ kg over here anyway. I would also suggest to check the car sharing websites. If you have somebody driving from city A to B anyway, just pay for his gas and have him take a monitor along.

But I think in America it is different, say you use a trucking company to have your parcel taken from point A to point B and the weight is really heavy like for these 20"-32" monitors and the stuff you will use to have them be transported in and on they ask you to provide a buisness number code and they charge you a reasonable price otherwise if you can not provide one the rates really go up.

[Fudoh]

Aren't people continuously using services like that for moving their cabs ? Seems to be pretty common in the US as well. And especially when you don't need a 48 hours service, but have the time and patience to wait it out, it should be easy to find some unused space on some truck.

[Lawfer]

Aren't people continuously using services like that for moving their cabs ? Seems to be pretty common in the US as well. And especially when you don't need a 48 hours service, but have the time and patience to wait it out, it should be easy to find some unused space on some truck.

I never said that it didnt exist, I just said that this sort of service was expensive for people that could not provide a company code. Ebay sellers can afford to charge a reasnoable shipping price because they are operating a buisness and can provide a company code to the shipping companies.

[Fudoh]

What do you want to hear ? I can just judge from my own experience and from what I see there are lots of private cab sales going on the US with quite reasonable shipping prices EVEN FOR PRIVATE SELLERS.

[Lawfer]

What do you want to hear ?

Nothing, just saying I had a different experience with these things, thats all. Also when I imported an LCD monitor from the UK, I had to pay taxes but if I had provided buisness code I would have gotten it for cheaper, just saying they give discounts and take off some expenses to buisness owners/operators.

[kamiboy]

For what it is worth I've had 4 CRT monitors, one 29", 25" and two 14", shipped to me internationally through UPS and FedEX without incident. They all but one arrived in regular old cardboard boxes too.

In the future I might buy two other, a 20" BVM and a X68000 monitor.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

[Ed Oscuro]

For what it's worth I've had two CRT monitors shipped (FM Towns and X68000) and they were both busted.

[CMcK]

Monitors are fine if shipped in an appropriate flight case but that adds to the cost as the case will need to be returned to its owner.

[Lawfer]

Monitors are fine if shipped in an appropriate flight case but that adds to the cost as the case will need to be returned to its owner.

Yeah just like I said, just in case the monitor comes with four legs just ask the seller to unscrew the legs before placing the monitor inside the flight case.

[kamiboy]

For what it's worth I've had two CRT monitors shipped (FM Towns and X68000) and they were both busted.

Who was your proxy? What was your Shipping method? SAL?

Also would you happen to know the approximate weight of a X68000 monitor? Above or below 30kg, and by how much?

[synonym9]

As for the SONY PVM-20M7MDE, I could get one for 100€ (good price???).

It is cosiedered as a endoscopic monitor, so it is probably not as worn as an broadcast monitor.

I would like to put it a mame-cabinet.
Will that monitor handle 15/24/31KHz and will it display it right away (automatically) or could it happen that the it does not display the correct resoluton/refreshrates by itself.

Could I also run newer....for example Xbox 360 games on it?

Will it save image adjustment like the (I have been told) digital chassis usually do?

[cools]

Finally got around to testing out the PVM-20M2MDEs I bought six(?) months ago.



Very pleased! Had to reset all the "user" settings to defaults and the contrast and brightness to zero, but once that was done the picture on both in 65K colour looks identical. The third has vertical collapse... Fixing that may be troublesome due to the sheer amount of tech inside these things.

[Beaps]

I never understood, what are the VGA looking ports on the back of a PVM used for

What can you connect to em?

[andykara2003]

PS: And I would NEVER consider having monitors like those shipped internally. Too much of a risk.

This is something I'm looking into now. I'm shipping a few TV's from Germany to the UK.

Do you know the least risky way to ship them? I'd rather pay a bit more than risk damaging them.

Cheers.

[Lawfer]

This is something I'm looking into now. I'm shipping a few TV's from Germany to the UK.

Do you know the least risky way to ship them? I'd rather pay a bit more than risk damaging them.

Cheers.

Who is in Germany and who is in the UK? Are you the shipper?

[andykara2003]

This is something I'm looking into now. I'm shipping a few TV's from Germany to the UK.

Do you know the least risky way to ship them? I'd rather pay a bit more than risk damaging them.

Cheers.

Who is in Germany and who is in the UK? Are you the shipper?

The seller is in Germany & I'm in the UK. I'm the shipper

[Lawfer]

The seller is in Germany & I'm in the UK. I'm the shipper

Wait, if the seller is in Germany, then you are the buyer and hence not the shipper.

Then, have the seller ship the monitor to you inside a flight case and have him send it to you using Iloxx:

http://www.iloxx.de/net/home.aspx

[andykara2003]

The seller is in Germany & I'm in the UK. I'm the shipper

Wait, if the seller is in Germany, then you are the buyer and hence not the shipper.

Then, have the seller ship the monitor to you inside a flight case and have him send it to you using Iloxx:

http://www.iloxx.de/net/home.aspx

Thanks for the link

I don't think these people are likely to have flight cases tho' - I'll just have to ask them to use plenty of padding.

Just out of interest, why are Ilox better than other shipping companies?

[Lawfer]

Just out of interest, why are Ilox better than other shipping companies?

They are a whole lot cheaper by a couple hundreds euros if you want something big and heavy shipped from Germany to the UK, France, Italy, Spain etc.

[andykara2003]

National shipping is ok. Just don't have it shipped using a parcel service, but have it moved on a wooden palette by a truckage or forwarding company. This way you can be rather sure that it doesn't get thrown around.

Ahh - but I'm thinking I don't mind paying a bit more if it were shipped differently, as Fudoh outlined above, in a different manner to normal shipping - to really reduce the chance of them being dropped. He's talking about national shipping here. I'm looking for a similar kind of service but Europe-wide.

[Lawfer]

Ahh - but I'm thinking I don't mind paying a bit more if it were shipped differently, as Fudoh outlined above, in a different manner to normal shipping - to really reduce the chance of them being dropped. He's talking about national shipping here. I'm looking for a similar kind of service but Europe-wide.

Well like I said, Iloxx, it has nothing to do with paying more, paying more means using DHL and the likes I doubt DHL and co are going to handle the monitor in the way described by Fudoh.

I already used Iloxx for shipping from Germany and they brought me the merchandise on a pallet.

If not, to make things the easiest possible, have the monitor shipped inside a flight case and if you do not mind paying more, use DHL Express Worldwide.

[andykara2003]

Ahh - but I'm thinking I don't mind paying a bit more if it were shipped differently, as Fudoh outlined above, in a different manner to normal shipping - to really reduce the chance of them being dropped. He's talking about national shipping here. I'm looking for a similar kind of service but Europe-wide.

Well like I said, Iloxx, it has nothing to do with paying more, paying more means using DHL and the likes I doubt DHL and co are going to handle the monitor in the way described by Fudoh.

I already used Iloxx for shipping from Germany and they brought me the merchandise on a pallet.

If not, to make things the easiest possible, have the monitor shipped inside a flight case and if you do not mind paying more, use DHL Express Worldwide.

Awesome cheers. Iloxx sound great. I doubt DHL would be any more careful anyway...

[nyder]

There is a Toshiba HDTV 26-Inch 26HF84 available in my area.

I was thinking this might be a great CRT for progressive scan gaming on PS2/Xbox.

http://tv.manualsonline.com/manuals/mfg ... 6hf84.html

I'm guessing 240p stuff wouldn't look so great, anyone have any experience with this set?

Cheers,

Nyd

[Lawfer]

Awesome cheers. Iloxx sound great. I doubt DHL would be any more careful anyway...

But still, I would highly advise to have the monitor be put unto a flight case, this way it will be protected. Cant you ask the seller to pick up a monitor flight case for you to put the monitor inside?

Also, be sure that the seller avoid shipping the monitor with things attached (legs on the monitor, monitor still placed on top of the control unit etc.)

[andykara2003]

Awesome cheers. Iloxx sound great. I doubt DHL would be any more careful anyway...

But still, I would highly advise to have the monitor be put unto a flight case, this way it will be protected. Cant you ask the seller to pick up a monitor flight case for you to put the monitor inside?

Also, be sure that the seller avoid shipping the monitor with things attached (legs on the monitor, monitor still placed on top of the control unit etc.)

They're TV's so they probably won't have access to flight cases

Thanks for the advice tho'. I'll keep it in mind if I ship monitors in future

[Fudoh]

Your seller needs to be able to put whatever you buy on pallette and secure it on the pallette. Once it's on the pallette it will be handled with a lifter. No need for cases. Cabs get shipped on pallettes just fine.