What happened to Cave?

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KAI wrote:I mean graphically. SF4, TTT2, MK9, DOA5, VF5 are more popular than GGAC, BBCS, P4A or AH3
I don't think that SF4's popularity has to do with its 3D graphics as much as its iconic characters and gameplay that is similar to the old SF2 games. Also, there are regional differences to take into account; Arc System Works games are obviously much more popular in Japan than in the US/west, for example.

I think fighting games are actually in a pretty similar situation as shootgames, just on a different order of magnitude. Fighting games are a pretty niche genre when you compare to the mega popular titles like Call of Duty, Madden/FIFA, GTA, Halo/other FPS, etc. They seem like they're really popular compared to shootemups, but there's a very similar issue of them not being approachable and having a steep learning curve. It's actually really hard to get people to play fighting games and stick with it; many people get frustrated and quit before they get very far.

Overall, I'd say both genres are pretty simple to understand at the most basic level, but get more complicated and deeper as you play more and improve. I'm a huge fan of both genres, and I think there is a similarity between the two in terms of how you approach the game, practice, and improve your skillset.

I hope Cave is able to keep truckin' and keep making shootgames, however they are able to release them (unless they were phone only games :( ). Social/casual/cell phone games are an insanely huge market in Japan, so hopefully they can find a way to balance and bring in money from those games to fund their STGs which I'm sure they don't make nearly as much on.
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viniciusvbf wrote:wtf is this shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj6Y28ZrMGc
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In other news cave is making some hello kitty puzzle game and this new mobile dodonpachi.
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viniciusvbf wrote:wtf is this shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj6Y28ZrMGc
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AntiFritz wrote:
viniciusvbf wrote:wtf is this shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj6Y28ZrMGc
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where the hell are the bullets?
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nasty_wolverine wrote:
AntiFritz wrote:
viniciusvbf wrote:wtf is this shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj6Y28ZrMGc
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where the hell are the bullets?
Can't make it too hard for modern gamers now can we?
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Nasty_Wolverine wrote: where the hell are the bullets?
They will be available via in-app purchaseble DLC...
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!!!!!!!!!!!!

I really, really hope they don't have the nerve to call that a DoDonPachi game.
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That's the new Cave style. Can't wait to buy additional fuel for 2$ a litre 8)
nasty_wolverine wrote:
AntiFritz wrote:
viniciusvbf wrote:wtf is this shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj6Y28ZrMGc
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where the hell are the bullets?
Who needs bullets when we can get jewels :lol:
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pollysee wrote:
KAI wrote:I mean graphically. SF4, TTT2, MK9, DOA5, VF5 are more popular than GGAC, BBCS, P4A or AH3
I don't think that SF4's popularity has to do with its 3D graphics as much as its iconic characters and gameplay that is similar to the old SF2 games.
I think you'd really be surprised how much 3D graphics matter to some people.

Also, I got on board with that Cave ios game as soon as I saw scoring items.
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WeirdRain wrote:That's the new Cave style. Can't wait to buy additional fuel for 2$ a litre 8)
nasty_wolverine wrote: where the hell are the bullets?
Who needs bullets when we can get jewels :lol:
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WeirdRain wrote:That's the new Cave style. Can't wait to buy additional fuel for 2$ a litre 8)
nasty_wolverine wrote:
AntiFritz wrote:The future of shmups.
where the hell are the bullets?
Who needs bullets when we can get jewels :lol:
Maybe they're medals. :lol:

Maybe this is yagawas fault :twisted:
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Well, I do see those little sound effect bubbles that were in MMP ..

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WeirdRain wrote:Who needs bullets when we can get jewels :lol:
I always thought Progear would have been better with no bullets. I only ever cancelled them anyway.

On a more serious note, I like to be an optimist and like iOS shmups, but this… :?
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So it's a JRPG (tactical boss battles) combined with a casual 'shooter' (grinding to get points / powerups to spend / use in the boss battles?)

at least that's about all I can gather from the video...

I guess it's something only Cave would make...
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I think i just threw up in my mouth.
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"Certified by Guinness World Records"

How low can you go Cave.
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So they went from Bullet Hell to Cute Em Up NO BULLET RPG SHOOTER!!!!!
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The fuel element looks suspiciously like it's a pay-to-play thing.
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viniciusvbf wrote:wtf is this shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj6Y28ZrMGc
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Tokyo-J wrote:So they went from Bullet Hell to Cute Em Up NO BULLET RPG SHOOTER!!!!!
At least no one can complain anymore that shmups are too difficult :lol:
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viniciusvbf wrote:wtf is this shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj6Y28ZrMGc

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I think I speak for us all when I say:

fuck CAVE
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Looks great, arcade port plz.
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Because STG-RPGs work so well.
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cools wrote:Looks great, arcade port plz.
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