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[Fudoh]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1080P-Component ... 20da6b12b1

excellent quality. The same model is available with an additional coax SPDIF input (just a little more expensive).

HD in this case would be 720p or 1080i out of the Xbox.

the majority of games is just 480p.

[Ed Oscuro]

Haha, I saw the exact same auction earlier when researching. Is it just a signal converter, and is it known to add any lag?

[Fudoh]

I use it myself all the time (I have the silver "Wii" version). There's no lag and no signal scaling. It's just an a/d converter. Very nice quality. Heavily saturated reds might get a tiny bit oversaturated, but that's nothing and can easily be adjusted on the TV set or monitor.

Although stated in the specs, it does not properly work with 480i sources. Or at least TVs can't make much use of the 480i HDMI signal from this box. This means that a handful of XBox titles won't run using this converter.

[brownvim]

Iv got one of these on order, will be using it with my 360 too, plus Wii and PS2.

[Ed Oscuro]

I use it myself all the time (I have the silver "Wii" version). There's no lag and no signal scaling. It's just an a/d converter. Very nice quality. Heavily saturated reds might get a tiny bit oversaturated, but that's nothing and can easily be adjusted on the TV set or monitor.

Although stated in the specs, it does not properly work with 480i sources. Or at least TVs can't make much use of the 480i HDMI signal from this box. This means that a handful of XBox titles won't run using this converter.

And do most TVs upscale 480p to 1080p well? I've read before about 720p to 1080p being pretty much a non-issue, but I'm not so sure about this conversion.

[Fudoh]

And do most TVs upscale 480p to 1080p well?

yes.

[EmperorZelos]

Does a sync stripper boost the signal anything or does it leave the sync signal level the same as the input composite?

[antibolo]

Are there any video capture solutions out there that can receive a RGB+csync signal? I'm thinking about doing some classic gaming livestreaming, and would like something I can just plug into the RGB output of my PVM, without adding a RGB to component converter into the chain, which would add more costs.

[Fudoh]

Startech PEXHDCAP, Micomsoft SC-512N1 or Micomsoft XCAPTURE-1 (external USB3).

They all take RGBs through the VGA or DVI-A connector. Maybe you need a little sync stripper/splitter. We've got a thread on those capture solutions.

[antibolo]

Startech PEXHDCAP, Micomsoft SC-512N1 or Micomsoft XCAPTURE-1 (external USB3).

They all take RGBs through the VGA or DVI-A connector. Maybe you need a little sync stripper/splitter. We've got a thread on those capture solutions.

I don't have a desktop computer to put PCIe cards into so the first two are right out, and that 3rd one is ouch pretty expensive. Not sure I want to spend that much dough for capture.

I'm thinking about getting either a AverMedia or Elgato USB capture box and a RGB to component converter, I figure it should work OK.

[Endymion]

Although stated in the specs, it does not properly work with 480i sources. Or at least TVs can't make much use of the 480i HDMI signal from this box. This means that a handful of XBox titles won't run using this converter.

All XBox titles can be patched or run with a mod that forces 480p so this isn't a big problem. I can only think of one XBox game (The Thing) off the top of my head that required this force anyway.

[Fudoh]

I'm thinking about getting either a AverMedia or Elgato USB capture box and a RGB to component converter, I figure it should work OK.

I think the Avermedia works. Hauppage does NOT work. Don't know about the Elgato.

[Axelay]

i have found memories of playing gradius v and skyward sword via component and with official component cables on a 100 hz crt tv it looked lush.
I now have a old school sony CRT TV will RGB picture beat the component picture ? thank you.

[Hurez]

Hello all,

So I recently acquired a Sony BVM-20F1U from a friend for very cheap.

...and I have no idea how to "use" it. I bought some BNC-RCA converters, but does this monitor even accept RCA? Googling has yielded me very few answers.
I'd like to invest in RGB down the road, but don't want to mod my NES right now.

Also, how do I get sound working for this monitor? Where do I plug in the speakers?

I apologize for my cluelessness... any and all help is appreciated!

[Fudoh]

To use composite video on this monitor you need a decoder board (BKM-20D, -21D or similar). Out of the box with just the standard analogue connection, it supports RGBs and component video. The BVMs don't have speaker support.

[Hurez]

To use composite video on this monitor you need a decoder board (BKM-20D, -21D or similar). Out of the box with just the standard analogue connection, it supports RGBs and component video. The BVMs don't have speaker support.

Hi Fudoh,

Thanks for the quick response! Your reputation precedes you

Luckily, my monitor came with a BKM-20D and a BKM-24N. Plugging the yellow composite video cable produces no image on the monitor unless I plug it into the Green-in on the default analog input/output connectors (which in that case, all I get is a black and white image). Would like to get a color image and make sure I can get my old systems working on the monitor before I dive into RGB gaming.

Regarding the speakers, how do I get sound for/from my BVM?

Sorry if my questions are terribly amateurish! Thanks for your patience everyone!

[kamiboy]

i have found memories of playing gradius v and skyward sword via component and with official component cables on a 100 hz crt tv it looked lush.
I now have a old school sony CRT TV will RGB picture beat the component picture ? thank you.

Not if your 100hz TV could do 480p.

[Fudoh]

Luckily, my monitor came with a BKM-20D and a BKM-24N.

I just checked. The 20D does not have a composite decoder, but the 24N does. This works for all inputs on the whole monitor. You probably have to configure the input channel to composite to get a proper picture. If you get a b/w image, it means that the input you're using is configured for component (Y channel).

[Hurez]

Luckily, my monitor came with a BKM-20D and a BKM-24N.

I just checked. The 20D does not have a composite decoder, but the 24N does. This works for all inputs on the whole monitor. You probably have to configure the input channel to composite to get a proper picture. If you get a b/w image, it means that the input you're using is configured for component (Y channel).

Hmm... Tried switching the input channel to composite, got a black screen. And yes, switching to component gives me a black and white screen. Is something wrong with my RCA cable?

How do I get sound to work? Sorry for being repetitive!

[Fudoh]

I actually never used composite on my BVMs, sorry. Maybe the NTSC decoder is disabled somewhere within the menus ?

[Xyga]

@Fudoh: I have a few more questions for you regarding the DVDO iScan machines;

vp30
- cue correction: should it be on or off when using a scanliner ? (think I read it should be off, but why I don't remember)
- output level: video or PC, what's recommended ? (I use both VGA & HDMI outputs either connected to a lcd tv or lcd monitor)

vp50pro & Edge
- is there anything they're better at for a combo setup ? like a sharper 480p upscaling or something ?

RetroPix
- will an iScan + RetroPix combo work just as well as my current's (XRGB-2/vp30) ?
(I am thinking about revealing the lines that are masked by the XRGB-2 on some hardwares and display all, fullscreen no borders)

[Fudoh]

cue correction

always off unless you use DVD player with this particular error (color upsampling error). When you enable it, reds get a little blurred. You can instantly see it on all 480i/480p sources.

output level: video or PC

doesn't matter, but if has to match your TV's setting. I would recommend to use PC when using RGB output after all. When going limited (or if you have to for some reason), I'd recommend to go with YCbCr4:2:2 instead (which is automatically limited luminance range). RGB is 4:4:4, but the internal processor is working in 4:2:2, so it doesn't really matter. RGB with limited range is the least supported (and least common) format of all.

vp50pro & Edge
- is there anything they're better at for a combo setup ? like a sharper 480p upscaling or something ?

yes. 50Pro and Edge are a considerable step up, especially since they have a FANTASTIC detail enhancement function. On the Edge this does NOT work in gamemode though, while it does work on the 50Pro in all modes. As far as the DVDO design in general goes, the 50Pro was and is the pinnacle.

RetroPix
- will an iScan + RetroPix combo work just as well as my current's (XRGB-2/vp30) ?

that's a bit early to tell. I hope so. showing more than 240 lines could cause incompatibilites on the secondary processor though. I doubt that any DVDO processor could handle an active 256 line input.

[Xyga]

Thanks !

vp50pro & Edge
yes. 50Pro and Edge are a considerable step up, especially since they have a FANTASTIC detail enhancement function. On the Edge this does NOT work in gamemode though, while it does work on the 50Pro in all modes. As far as the DVDO design in general goes, the 50Pro was and is the pinnacle.

Wasn't there a bit of ringing on the 50pro though ? Sorry I just re-read your review but I am not sure I got that clearly.
I mean if I was to switch from a vp30 to a vp50pro for upscaling older XRGBs, would the picture quality be really superior ?
I am also worried by the overscanning issue you mentioned, where scanlines alignment is wrong unless overscan is set at 0% or 10%.
On the vp30 no matter what the overscan % is scanlines are always perfectly aligned (no moire pattern).

Retropix
that's a bit early to tell. I hope so. showing more than 240 lines could cause incompatibilites on the secondary processor though. I doubt that any DVDO processor could handle an active 256 line input.

You're right I doubt as well the RGBHV input could handle things like doubled 256p. ^^
I am wondering if the RGBs input could though... still have to build a cable with sync-combining circuit to test this.

[Fudoh]

Wasn't there a bit of ringing on the 50pro though ?

ABT's scaling engine always causes ringing. On the 50Pro likely a little more than on the VP30, but you asked for increased sharpness and that's what you get on the 50Pro and Edge.

I mean if I was to switch from a vp30 to a vp50pro for upscaling older XRGBs, would the picture quality be really superior ?

technically the upscaling of 480p signals on the VP30 isn't this good. Scaling of scanlined images masks all the artefacts by a good degree, but basically that's why I don't rate the VPxx units as "excellent" 480p upscalers.

On the vp30 no matter what the overscan % is scanlines are always perfectly aligned (no moire pattern).

it's been very long since I've seen a VP30 scaling a scanlined image. We're not talking obvious misalignment on the Pro or Edge. More like a difference between certain scanlines if you like to call it this way. I would have to recheck a VP30 in person to tell you more about it.

[Xyga]

Okay, thanks again!

[japtor]

I'm beginning to get interested in getting a Mushi PCB, but I have an Astro City and remember reading the SH3/CV1000 boards have issues with the PSUs. According to this page it's the 400-5198-01Y PSU that has the problems. I think I have the X one, anyone know if that one has the same issues?

Otherwise is there anything else to watch out for with Mushi, like common problems or anything other than the version number?

[Ed Oscuro]

A quick question before some information for the public:

LG 29FX4BK television.

Does anything in the geometry here look particularly bad? http://i.imgur.com/4hc7C5C.jpg
It looks like slightly complex distortion but I think it might be curable with the service menu. As far as I can tell it is some kind of flat tube model - I'm passing along information and I can't tell if it's curved, fake flat (i.e. glass front in front of a curved tube) or a true flat tube (like a Trinitron Wega). But it still looks like there is something here that can be fixed.

So here are a few things I gleaned about operating this set from an acquaintance in Mexico:

SERVICE MENU SETTING:

Press the menu button on the TV twice, keep it pressed the second time, then press menu on the controller.
Save the entry with "Enter," then: "Mute", set goes into "auto" (dunno why), then press "A/V Video"

There is some kind of horizontal stretch or something that was described as overscan, which he was able to fix with a quick setting apparently.

[Smashbro29]

My Framemeister remote won't respond unless I twist it, I just gave it new batteries. Is this common? What can I do?

[Ed Oscuro]

A video of my friend's geometry problem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUGKrzGe-yk

It looks like it is being filmed at an angle, but this is head-on. Note how the ship gets significantly smaller at the screen edge.

I'm suggesting he play around with service menu settings a bit more (pulling out the edges for example) but are there any hints here? I don't think it's a catastrophic problem at least.

OFF TOPIC: Here's one for the ages. I invented a term for talking about red push detection:

<mib_nqix57>: the red logo in Raiden on PlayStation looked nice and bright red - when I deactivated the red push I realized it was bleeding like hell and that's bad
<Hare-uh-tik>: yep
<mib_nqix57>: I guess it is easy enough to tell if you just look carefully at the redges (WhAAT AM I TYPING)

red edges = redges

[Sarethums]

Didnt realise there was one of these in hardware.
How do i remove the wires from the buttons? There on pretty tight and i dont want to damage anything. Its on my razer atrox.

Thanks