Games AVGN Reviewed... that you liked?

[Edmond Dantes]

Has this happened to anyone else? AVGN (or some other Angry reviewer) totally trashes some game that you actually thought was... maybe not great, but at least a little fun?

I know everyone is gonna say "Ninja Gaiden and Ghosts n' Goblins," although keep in mind he didn't actually hate either one--he just raged at their difficulty for the amusement of his audience. I mean games where he outright said the game is terrible.

Personally... I actually kinda enjoyed the first NES Ninja Turtles game, as well as Friday the 13th. The latter, especially, has some mechanics I wish were more common in horror-themed games (the killer moving around the map the same as you do, and being able to show up anywhere... as far as I know, only Clock Tower does this).

Also, this doesn't have to be limited to the AVGN--any of his knockoffs will do (although let's not mention the Irate Gamer. Everyone knows that guy is full of shit).

[moh]

fuck avgn

[AntiFritz]

I say this as a fan of avgn, but he doesn't really "review" anything. Infact there are games I think that james rolfe himself likes but still bases episodes on.

[dunpeal2064]

I say this as a fan of avgn, but he doesn't really "review" anything. Infact there are games I think that james rolfe himself likes but still bases episodes on.

I'm sure he probably enjoys a majority of the games now. A lot of his reviews seem to either be on games he found frustrating as a kid, or games that he never came across as a kid, but knows he would have been frustrated by had he come across them. He often points to games as being, "Those games you rent, and waste an entire weekend on", when he obviously does not rent games anymore.

Some AVGN-reviewed games that I had fun with, despite thier flaws:

McKids
Fester's Quest
Milon's Secret Castle

I also enjoy putting on Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde when I have friends over. As bad as that game is, most people I've shown it too refuse to put it down, as they must know why they are dying, and why they can't seem to hit anything.

[BIL]

Unrelated to AVGN, I did revisit childhood favourite NES TMNT recently. Waste of time, hasn't held up at all. Lame action, nonexistent value bag stage design, sludgy framerate and a camera that won't keep the player centered. Zelda II is a far superior Annoying Sidescrolling Explore 'em Up. Batman's an actual Good Licensed Game.

I do like that the turtles' depiction resembles the harder-edged original comic moreso than the horrid cartoon, though. Not that you'd know this from the Japanese Famicom box. >w<

I do think NES Double Dragon III is okay while the first one is, nostalgia aside, rather crap.

[DJ Incompetent]

http://store.steampowered.com/app/237740/

[Udderdude]

Street Fighter 2010 .. ? :D

[Ghegs]

Silver Surfer. Nowhere as bad and terrible as AVGN makes it out to be. I'd say it's at least middle tier as far as NES shmups go. The stages are varied and decently fun and the excellent music by Tim Follin still makes me listen to the Stage 1 music on Youtube every now and then. The only thing really wrong with it is the lack of autofire.

Thanks to his video most people pan the game automatically without even playing it. Its difficulty has been vastly overstated as well. I've one-lifed it with autofire and there's a video of someone from SDA doing the same without autofire. It's kind of easy, in fact.

[Edmond Dantes]

I do like that the turtles' depiction resembles the harder-edged original comic moreso than the horrid cartoon, though. Not that you'd know this from the Japanese Famicom box. >w<

I'm probably the only guy on this forum who liked the cartoon more than the comics.

(I liked the first couple of issues, but then it just became crap when they couldn't pick a tone and stick with it and kept letting other indie comic authors do their own take on the turtles... most of which were just lame. If nothing else, the cartoon was consistent).

I do think NES Double Dragon III is okay while the first one is, nostalgia aside, rather crap.

Double Dragon III is IMO easily the best of the NES trilogy.

[Bananamatic]

speaking of mad youtube gamers, what about DSPGaming

that guy is just can't be real

[AntiFritz]

speaking of mad youtube gamers, what about DSPGaming

that guy is just can't be real

I'm afraid he probably is. Scary huh.

[Hagane]

He is. He isn't particularly well regarded in the fighting game community.

[Austin]

Thanks to his video most people pan the game automatically without even playing it. Its difficulty has been vastly overstated as well. I've one-lifed it with autofire and there's a video of someone from SDA doing the same without autofire. It's kind of easy, in fact.

Silver Surfer requires loads of memorization, and that I think is why most don't like it. Of course, the pin-point hit detection and massive character sprites probably doesn't help much either. Once you know what's coming ahead though it is not too bad. Pretty sure I've no-deathed it, although that was through a lot of practice and memorization over the years.

[Obiwanshinobi]

The latter, especially, has some mechanics I wish were more common in horror-themed games (the killer moving around the map the same as you do, and being able to show up anywhere... as far as I know, only Clock Tower does this).

Gregory Horror Show and Haunting Ground may be up your street, although I'm not sure how the "haunting" enemies in these are different from the ones in SH4 and RE3.
There are Grim Reaper kind of enemies in some dungeon crawlers.

[Bananamatic]

He is. He isn't particularly well regarded in the fighting game community.

fighters are one thing, but he's bad even at Kingdom Hearts, way worse than I was when I was 11

and he's 30 or something

[BryanM]

I do have some fondness for Friday the 13th. A fixed map with events-based variance; games seriously under utilize that design space.

Then again I feel nostalgia for that repetitive tune in Back to the Future.

[BareKnuckleRoo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5s9dqiRDCk

It's not a fantastic RPG, but it's still one of the earliest examples of a multiplayer RPG made (and for the NES) and it's a pretty decent dungeon crawler even if it's lacking in polish. He spends the entire video bitching about it and then gets stuck inside a shop and is too much of a moron to figure out how to exit (he keeps stepping on the 'shop' tile then instead of turning and exiting, he wanders back into the room, he does this for like 4 minutes).

[drauch]

He started off pretty good, but his taste in film is dog shit and most of his recent videos appeal to children with a fondness for flatulence. I really hate watching him tear up video games and other memorabilia. I guess just droves of people send him stuff (and other YouTube celebrities) he'll probably just break or let rot in a pile for "collecting" purposes.

[BrianC]

I do like that the turtles' depiction resembles the harder-edged original comic moreso than the horrid cartoon, though. Not that you'd know this from the Japanese Famicom box. >w<

It's actually some weird hybrid between the comics and TV series. The JP version's text is even stranger with April as Splinter's daughter or something along those lines. TMNT is one of the most confusing franchises continuity wise. Multiple comic continuities with Image and Archie doing their own thing (the latter starting as an adaption of the cartoon and than branching off into its own storylines), the very different 80-90s cartoon, the JP animated series where they become super heroes, etc. Not to mention that Konami's TMNT games seem to take stuff from many different TMNT sources, including the Archie comics and the movies.

I has been awhile since I have played, but I remember liking it, though I like the similar Getsu Fuuma Den much better. It really puzzles me that Konami used a standard mapper instead of one of their VRC mappers like they did with Getsu Fuuma Den.

I do think NES Double Dragon III is okay

I like DD3 NES, though I heard the JP version is more polished. It's not the only one with JP differences either. The difficulties work different in the JP Double Dragon II with the hard mode being a real hard mode with harder enemies that block your attacks ala Double Dragon III rather than the only mode with the full game. SMS DD is a real oddity too. It seems to have the blocking of the JP arcade version (I heard somewhere the characters block in the JP version, but I need to check), but with no animations for the blocks. I like it myself, though I heard mixed things (not to mention the headache I get every time I read posts on the HG101 forum about how it has infinite lives due to the infinite continues).

Does DDII NES US have a second loop?

[Edmond Dantes]

I read (on HG101 so I'm not sure how true it is) that the first TMNT game was in production while the cartoon was still in its planning stages, which is why it comes off as a weird mashup and doesn't feature some of the iconic music and characters.

I can understand Konami not using a special mapper, since the game was probably seen primarily as for the US market and those special mappers only work on the Famicom, not the NES (unless I'm mistaken).

To my memory, no the US DDII does not have a second loop.

[BrianC]

I can understand Konami not using a special mapper, since the game was probably seen primarily as for the US market and those special mappers only work on the Famicom, not the NES (unless I'm mistaken).

The mappers work fine on US NES systems, but they don't work with some of the Famicom to NES adapters. Batman: Return of the Joker US actually uses a special Sunsoft mapper. It's the special sound chips that don't work on US systems (though it's possible to mod the US NES for this), not the mappers.

I read (on HG101 so I'm not sure how true it is) that the first TMNT game was in production while the cartoon was still in its planning stages, which is why it comes off as a weird mashup and doesn't feature some of the iconic music and characters.

I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case (it also seems to be the case with Duck Tales NES), but that doesn't explain how later TMNT games also mix stuff from different TMNT universes. Tournament Fighters SNES has Karai from the Mirage comics, War from Archie comics, and various stuff from the cartoon. Turtles in Time has mostly stuff from the cartoon, but also has some stuff from archie comics in the arcade and Super Shreeder from the movie on SNES. Hyperstone Heist has Tetsu from the movie.

[trap15]

However, Nintendo didn't allow using non-Nintendo mappers in their carts for NES, whereas you could make your own Famicom carts and Nintendo wouldn't do anything.

[BrianC]

However, Nintendo didn't allow using non-Nintendo mappers in their carts for NES, whereas you could make your own Famicom carts and Nintendo wouldn't do anything.

For the most part, but they did allow Sunsoft to use a special mapper for Return of the Joker.

[rugdoctor]

I watch AVGN before I go to sleep because his monotone voice just puts me to sleep...him, kimble justice and matt from game theory.

[cj iwakura]

What I find funny about the AVGN is that, well, he kind of sucks at those games for being so passionate about them.

I was better at Ninja Gaiden when I was 8.

Unless it's the character. He's a very verbose speaker, for sure.

[BIL]

Ninja Gaiden, Castlevania, Contra etc are in the show's casual nostalgic rage bracket. He has to play up his ineptitude at least a bit, or viewers might suspect none of these games are the arse-rending colossi they recall and feel bad. "Haha yeah d00d thirty lives spreadgun Sunny D omg medusa heads and eagles how do they work." I tend to skip those as they're the filmic equivalent of lurking GameFAQs. Nothing against the audience involved, but nothing to discuss with them either.

I'm quite fond of Rolfe's delivery, he's very watchable unlike 99.9% of his knockoffs. He has decent timing and expressions and deploys profanity with real gusto, and is often pretty dry when not in slapstick / scat mode. Loved the blissfully moronic grin followed by an expression of utter horror at the surprise ending of Super C's sixth stage, I cracked up even knowing exactly what was about to happen.

[Edmond Dantes]

Wait... he reviewed Super C? When? I also don't remember him raging on Contra--in fact I don't remember him ever once criticizing Contra in any way, shape, or form. He seems to hold it up as gaming perfection, and one of his memories vids was about the first time he beat it.

He did admit that in his first season he would purposefully die in games to make them look harder than they really were, but he's stopped doing that. So when you see him die today, its legit. And to be honest, I don't think his playing skills are that poor (except maybe Silver Surfer... if he wasn't faking it, then he legitimately sucks at that game). He seems to do about as well as anyone who has been gaming since childhood and yet isn't a hardcore perfectionist.

[BIL]

Should've said - it wasn't AVGN, it was a James & Mike Play. Actually a very good episode, I hope it makes a few people realise these are actually games with discernible logic, not dildo-wielding slaughter engines with pretty pictures to distract you from their ravagings of your fundament.

There is some absolutely retarded stuff going on in his "hard gaming" videos like this (red his, green mine - someone linked me to the CV vid apparently to explain why the game is impossible...). It's nothing to do with perfectionism, just a lack of basic observation. Charitably I assume it's for the audience, but maybe I'm wrong. At any rate, the NG video naturally ends up morbidly fixated on the hugely overrated 6-2 jump, with our hero too apoplectic to see straight. Then an actual ninja gets fucked too, proving the game really was impossible just like back in middle school. High fives and Sunny Ds all round!

[Gozer]

I enjoyed and still enjoy playing Jaws on NES.

Big whoop, wanna fight about it?

[BryanM]

It's nothing to do with perfectionism, just a lack of basic observation.

Yeah, he often brings up the "you have to watch more than a couple things at a time and that's hard grrr" trope. We're obviously not impressed, considering we play games where the screen looks like confetti to these guys.

It would be nice if he has a retrospective sometime on times when he just got it wrong (like "not being able to shoot straight" in Ghostbusters on the master system). Kind of like that bullshit of Bullshit! episode Penn and Teller never got around to making.

I enjoyed and still enjoy playing Jaws on NES.

God this. Give me level ups and I'll play that shit no matter how bad. Brb grinding progress bars until the stars burn out.

Surely the best of all worlds would be a dynamic platformer strategy game in the vein of The 13th Friday with items and a skill tree.