Can GameCube games be forced to 240p?

[BitFaced]

And if so, is it through a patch similar to PS2 games?

[antron]

I don't think the hardware is even capable. Even on the SCART model, or with a hacked component cable.

[Fudoh]

wasn't the Megaman collection proper 240p when running in 15khz ? Or was that only the case on the PS2 ?

[BitFaced]

wasn't the Megaman collection proper 240p when running in 15khz ? Or was that only the case on the PS2 ?

Might be.

[Thomago]

Zelda 1 and 2 from the Zelda Collector's Edition Promotional Disc definitely run in 240p.

[antron]

Zelda 1 and 2 from the Zelda Collector's Edition Promotional Disc definitely run in 240p.

on a PAL console?

[Thomago]

on a PAL console?

Yes.

[acidhammer420k]

Are you asking this for use with the Game Boy Player, by any chance? There is a GBA TV Player but it also does 480i if I recall correctly. Not sure if the Visteon puts out 240p or not, but if you haven't seen the circuit board, you could do the job with butterfingers and conductive glue.

[BitFaced]

on a PAL console?

Yes.

Wouldn't that be 288p?

Are you asking this for use with the Game Boy Player, by any chance? There is a GBA TV Player but it also does 480i if I recall correctly. Not sure if the Visteon puts out 240p or not, but if you haven't seen the circuit board, you could do the job with butterfingers and conductive glue.

What's a Visteon?

[Thomago]

Wouldn't that be 288p?

Nope, it's 240p, for the Zelda collection is 60 Hz only. The PAL version of Metroid Prime 2: Echoes is 60 Hz only as well, by the way.
And while I'm at it, in case you didn't know: Most PAL NGC games support 50 Hz as well as 60 Hz.

[BitFaced]

Wouldn't that be 288p?

Nope, it's 240p, for the Zelda collection is 60 Hz only. The PAL version of Metroid Prime 2: Echoes is 60 Hz only as well, by the way.
And while I'm at it, in case you didn't know: Most PAL NGC games support 50 Hz as well as 60 Hz.

Ah okay.
Was the Visteon similar to the Extron Emotia?

[acidhammer420k]

Wouldn't that be 288p?

Nope, it's 240p, for the Zelda collection is 60 Hz only. The PAL version of Metroid Prime 2: Echoes is 60 Hz only as well, by the way.
And while I'm at it, in case you didn't know: Most PAL NGC games support 50 Hz as well as 60 Hz.

Ah okay.
Was the Visteon similar to the Extron Emotia?

Isn't the extron emotia a scaler? Google the visteon. It was a GBA player/DVD player crazy combo thing that was made to be installed in cars for your kids to play on your fancy car TV's.

It was called The Visteon Dockable Entertainment System

[BitFaced]

Isn't the extron emotia a scaler? Google the visteon. It was a GBA player/DVD player crazy combo thing that was made to be installed in cars for your kids to play on your fancy car TV's.

It was called The Visteon Dockable Entertainment System

Oh that. Yeah, well that sounds like a burnt bridge right there then.

[rCadeGaming]

Zelda 1 and 2 from the Zelda Collector's Edition Promotional Disc definitely run in 240p.

I didn't believe you, so I booted it up to check and you're right. The last time I played this it was almost ten years ago, so at that point I didn't know the difference. Anyhow, mine is an NTSC console, so we've confirmed here that both NTSC and PAL models can do real 240p.

I was also under the impression that the Gamecube wasn't capable of this. Why wouldn't they allow the GBA player to run in 240p then? Very frustrating. If a software patch is possible, that would be great if someone could make patched GBA player discs.

[BitFaced]

Zelda 1 and 2 from the Zelda Collector's Edition Promotional Disc definitely run in 240p.

I didn't believe you, so I booted it up to check and you're right. The last time I played this it was almost ten years ago, so at that point I didn't know the difference. Anyhow, mine is an NTSC console, so we've confirmed here that both NTSC and PAL models can do real 240p.

I was also under the impression that the Gamecube wasn't capable of this. Why wouldn't they allow the GBA player to run in 240p then? Very frustrating. If a software patch is possible, that would be great if someone could make patched GBA player discs.

I agree. I don't know if that'll come in the nearby future though.

[Overkill]

Genesis Plus GX, is a an Mega Drive, SG-1000, Master System, Game Gear and Mega CD emulator and can output in 240p.

[BitFaced]

Weren't Animal Crossing games in 240p? Because they don't work on the Wii in progressive to the HD TV over Component.

[rCadeGaming]

480i

[BitFaced]

480i

Then why weren't they supported???

[rCadeGaming]

480i is 15kHz, 480p is 31kHz. Big difference. As to why they didn't add 480p support to that particular game, I couldn't tell you.

[antron]

will AC run in 480p on the GC?

[BitFaced]

480i is 15kHz, 480p is 31kHz. Big difference. As to why they didn't add 480p support to that particular game, I couldn't tell you.

Yeah but normal 15kHz runs through Wii Component set to progressive anyway.

[antron]

Maybe not if the game didn't originally support it.

Even on the Wii you still have to tell a GC game to run progressive.

[BitFaced]

will AC run in 480p on the GC?

NTSC one, yes. I've heard the Australian AC runs in forced 576p on Swiss but I've had no success in getting the UK AC to be forced.

Maybe not if the game didn't originally support it.

Even on the Wii you still have to tell a GC game to run progressive.

But all interlaced games go through the Component cable.

[andykara2003]

Isn't there a setting on the Extron RGB 201/202/203Rxi machines that downscales 480i down to 240p?

[Fudoh]

sure, but you have to transcode to VGA first and you need a compatible monitor.

[rCadeGaming]

If the Wii is set to 480i, then yes. If it's set to 480p, it has to load the game in 480p and "send it through the component cable" in 480p. If the game doesn't support 480p it won't load.EDIT: never mind

[BitFaced]

But all interlaced games go through the Component cable.

If the Wii is set to 480i, then yes. If it's set to 480p, it has to load the game in 480p and "send it through the component cable" in 480p. If the game doesn't support 480p it won't load.

But interlaced NGC games go through the Wii anyway, including when used with 480p settings.

[rCadeGaming]

I'm going to be honest. I don't know what you're saying, and I'm not sure that you do.

[BitFaced]

I'm going to be honest. I don't know what you're saying, and I'm not sure that you do.

I've set the Wii to 480p, but interlaced games (GameCube, VC) still go through it to the TV. But the Animal Crossing games in (interlaced) Animal Crossing don't whatsoever, whatever mode they're in.