Ketsui comes to the PS3

[Drachenherz]

Just got my copy from play asia, what a fantastic game.
Never had the chance to really play it before (just a few credits on MAME and the nintendo DS version), and i'm getting my ass kicked really hard. Ketsui is brutal, maybe it's just me, but i'm thinking it's even harder than DOJ, which for me was the hardest cave game until now.

Go play mars matrix.

Erm, I mean DDP Saidaioujou. Generous raping guaranteed. :goatsee:

[MSZ]

Just got my copy from play asia, what a fantastic game.
Never had the chance to really play it before (just a few credits on MAME and the nintendo DS version), and i'm getting my ass kicked really hard. Ketsui is brutal, maybe it's just me, but i'm thinking it's even harder than DOJ, which for me was the hardest cave game until now.

SDOJ is harder.

[Pretas]

Inbachi aside, I find that SDOJ is easier for survival and harder for score.

[Jonst]

I can get further in sdoj (stage 5) on a single credit than ketsui.

[Pragma]

So.

Does the PS3 version of this game have difficulty settings? I like the game but I'm not skilled enough to deal with the normal Arcade difficulty.

[emphatic]

So.

Does the PS3 version of this game have difficulty settings? I like the game but I'm not skilled enough to deal with the normal Arcade difficulty.

Pretty sure it does. Thing is with Ketsui is that while it is a hard game, you will ruin it if you change the difficulty. The boss' patterns will be watered down to circa 50% bullet amount and the popcorn enemies will be cannon fodder. Stick with the defaults and work on no miss clearing stage one, then go on to with stage 2. Just play it very aggressively and hopefully it'll click with you.

[Pragma]

So.

Does the PS3 version of this game have difficulty settings? I like the game but I'm not skilled enough to deal with the normal Arcade difficulty.

Pretty sure it does. Thing is with Ketsui is that while it is a hard game, you will ruin it if you change the difficulty. The boss' patterns will be watered down to circa 50% bullet amount and the popcorn enemies will be cannon fodder. Stick with the defaults and work on no miss clearing stage one, then go on to with stage 2. Just play it very aggressively and hopefully it'll click with you.

Oh, my problem is that I won't have much free time for the near future, so I want something I can play just for fun until I can actually get into it (while I'm quite sure I'll never be able to Ura loop this game, it's way beyond my skills). If I can play it in a lower difficulty, at least I'll be able to see it to the end.

Thanks for the advice, too.

[trap15]

But are you actually achieving something if you play on easy mode

[Kollision]

stick to defaults in Ketsui, mix the sessions with something easier
skills will eventually arise amidst chaos (and swearing, and restartitis, etc.)

[Pragma]

But are you actually achieving something if you play on easy mode

Playing just for fun, just what I said. Not exactly what one usually does with shmups, but I like to, when I'm not getting serious with a specific game.

stick to defaults in Ketsui, mix the sessions with something easier
skills will eventually arise amidst chaos (and swearing, and restartitis, etc.)

I won't be able to play to relax for these next months if I play Ketsui with the default settings. I played Death Label on my DS and I already had to sweat blood in order to beat the hardest modes, and of course I was completely unable to defeat Extra and Doom Mode (can't get beyond the third battle).

I actually copy-pasted that last part somewhere else to be able to read it. (See? That's what I mean. I try to play to chill and I get tons of pure, unadultered asswhooping instead.)

[man9child]

I don't think you can play Ketsui to relax. It gets the adrenaline going.

Not being a jerk, but why not play something else instead? To relax I'd much rather play Dragon Quest or an Ace Attorney game in bed on my ds than Death Label.

[BareKnuckleRoo]

Yeah, shmups by nature are the opposite of a relaxing genre; they require reflexes and timing, and you need to pay close attention to make tricky dodges and be prepared to remember what patterns are coming up in a level, etc. They are fun to play for the challenge of beating the game, but they really aren't what you would call a 'relaxing' genre because their strict, precise mechanics are exactly what makes them fun.

Playing the novice modes are good for helping you get used to the scoring system and whatnot, but the real accomplishment is challenging the game at its original difficulty.

[hail good sir]

Playing video games is so complicated.

[hermit crab]

Ketsui not relaxing?

That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard.

Ketsui is nothing but pure bliss. More so than pretty much any game I've ever tried. I don't know what it is but there's just something about it. (A lot of things probably.)

Yes you need to pay close attention, react fast, all that. Pretty much completely get absorbed by the game... That's exactly why it makes you forget all your worries and stress.

And sure desperately trying for a 1CC or top score or whatever artificial goal can be frustrating. Especially if you're far off, and even more so if you're really close. But that's not the only way to play. And true about any game.

Achieving something by playing games, lol. Well set a more realistic goal then if you want to feel like you've achieved something. Try for a 5 CC. Or keep trying to get though with less lives, more points than on your best run. Or your mates best run...

Or do whatever you want, I don't care, I'm gonna play some Ketsui now.

[Pragma]

Believe it or not, I like to use shmups not only as a means to overcome my own limits, when I'm serious about 1cc'ing one or whatever, but also as a way to get a "quick fix" of good fun, sometimes.

Not being a jerk, but why not play something else instead? To relax I'd much rather play Dragon Quest or an Ace Attorney game in bed on my ds than Death Label.

Because those games usually require longer sessions to enjoy if you want to beat them in a reasonable period of time. See what I mean now?

Also

Achieving something by playing games, lol.

This. I'm just setting my priorities straight for this period of time in my life, which requires a lot of dedication to my studies and training. Maybe I'm just able to take shmups both seriously and as a means to just have some fun. Might sound weird, being this one of the most "serious" and hardcore genres, but I think there is more than one way to enjoy a game.

[Limbrooke]

So I finally tried the PS3 version and my friend and I seemed to notice input lag/delay, running through component on an HD CRT television. Is this normal or what?

[Kiken]

So I finally tried the PS3 version and my friend and I seemed to notice input lag/delay, running through component on an HD CRT television. Is this normal or what?

What controllers/joysticks were you using? Were you playing in yoko or tate? What resolution setting were you using (480i or 480p)?

[hermosaguy]

I've been playing with the Tekken wireless stick. Not noticing anything particular, but I'm terrible at Ketsui as it is

[Limbrooke]

So I finally tried the PS3 version and my friend and I seemed to notice input lag/delay, running through component on an HD CRT television. Is this normal or what?

What controllers/joysticks were you using? Were you playing in yoko or tate? What resolution setting were you using (480i or 480p)?

I suppose it was yoko and via a DS3 - wired and wireless. Everything else was default.

[Kiken]

So I finally tried the PS3 version and my friend and I seemed to notice input lag/delay, running through component on an HD CRT television. Is this normal or what?

What controllers/joysticks were you using? Were you playing in yoko or tate? What resolution setting were you using (480i or 480p)?

I suppose it was yoko and via a DS3 - wired and wireless. Everything else was default.

When I tried running the game on my 1080p Vizio through HDMI playing Arcade Mode in yoko with a DS3 felt rather loose (not terribly accurate). Switching to a Saturn stick through a PC USB adapter helped things a bit, but the game still felt a tad laggy. I'm currently running the game on a tate SD CRT through S-Video using the same Saturn stick/PC USB adapter combo and the game feels fairly responsive. Try either switching to tate or try adjusting resolutions (since you're on an HD CRT) to ED TV mode (480p) and see if that doesn't help. Then again, I find the DS3 a fairly awful controller, but I guess your mileage may vary.

[ZenErik]

Haven't put much time into the PS3 version but didn't really notice anything out of the ordinary on a 47" LCD HDTV w/ my QanBa Q4 RAF stick.

[ZaKa-tokyobassist]

Not condescending or anything but why not just play on the default settings especially when you get infinite credits? The game is unbalanced in that it's too easy on lower settings and the game genuinely becomes a waste of time. All things considered it is only 5 levels long and there is plenty of different unlockables (art work/settings) if you want to get a lot of time out of it.

Play on default and just see how far you can go. It's how it's always done anyway.

[hermit crab]

Normal difficulty is fine. If something feels too hard you're using the wrong gun.

[Oniros]

Last thing I heard was that this release bombed pretty hard right? If that's the case there's no chance we'll see future 5pb releases like DOJBLEX on PS3 for example?

[Kiken]

Last thing I heard was that this release bombed pretty hard right? If that's the case there's no chance we'll see future 5pb releases like DOJBLEX on PS3 for example?

There's zero chance of DOJBLEX getting ported period. As for anything else.. well, there's Bullet Soul... but I wouldn't hold your breath for a PS3 port of that.

[KindGrind]

Never did get a JP360, glad this is out on PS3. I've rewatched some of MMM's runs and I can't wait to play this again. Played the PCB years ago and have very fond memories of it... Hopefully I'll hit the high scores section once I have a little play time with my copy.

[BulletMagnet]

In case anyone's interested, I stumbled across a sale on yes-Asia which includes the LE for 80 bucks.

[stoneroses]

Picked this up recently. Seriously, a Cave gem releasing on the PS3 when you don't have 360 was a big deal to me. Finding it surprising accessible and balanced. Reading up on it, I was expecting Ibara levels of frustration but pleasantly surprised. Having fun seeing how far I can go on 5 continues. Credit feeding it to the end would ruin it for me.

[emphatic]

Credit feeding it to the end would ruin it for me.

It really shouldn't. I remember credit feeding all through it the first day I had the pleasure of playing it (arcade PCB) and I was like "fuck, how am I supposed to beat this". But I really could 1-loop it, so there.

[Sugar Rush Games]

I'm very interested in importing this. It would be the first time I've bought an import game actually. Is Play Asia generally considered the best option?

Also, do prices typically drop on current gen import shmups or are they more likely to go out of stock?

Any advice is appreciated!