XRGB2+ issues

[Skykid]

I got my 360 working on my XRGB2+ before, but I've completely forgotten how I did it. It might have been with the official Scart lead, which I don't have presently.

I know there are no scanlines without an SLG3000 stuck in the middle, but can someone tell me if it will still display an image by plugging component into the component -> RGB adaptor / component -> D-Terminal adaptor, into the XRGB2+?

I can't seem to get a picture this way. The 360 is on the lowest setting, 480p. There's no 480i option available.

Thanks for the help!

[Fudoh]

The 2plus only accepts 15khz signals.

To get 480i through component I think you have to toggle the SD/HD switch which should be available on the 360 component cable itself.

But given that the 360 will output native 480p through VGA directly, I don't see the point of such setup.

[Skykid]

It's not that, I'm currently testing the XRGB2+... and starting to worry.


Been a while since I used this piece of kit, but can someone clarify: if the XRGB2+ is turned on, connected to a monitor via VGA, and has no input source plugged in, does it still have a signal to the monitor where you can use the menu?

Because the one I have in front of me turns on, but I'm struggling to get anything to appear on the monitor when connecting console sources, and it's equally dead without.

[Fudoh]

With vsync enabled this might not be the case. Sometimes you might need an active source to get the output to display anything at all on the display.

Why not just connect a composite video source ? Your 360 component cable should have a yellow connector for that as well. Again don't forget to toggle the HD/SD switch.

And last, but not least, the 2plus can also output 1024x768 in a kind of interlaced format (very old XGA variant). Modern displays can't work with this. You can check this with the 47/31khz LED indicator on the front of the unit.

[Skykid]

With vsync enabled this might not be the case. Sometimes you might need an active source to get the output to display anything at all on the display.

Why not just connect a composite video source ? Your 360 component cable should have a yellow connector for that as well. Again don't forget to toggle the HD/SD switch.

And last, but not least, the 2plus can also output 1024x768 in a kind of interlaced format (very old XGA variant). Modern displays can't work with this. You can check this with the 47/31khz LED indicator on the front of the unit.

Hey big F.

It's currently displaying 31khz.

The SD is switched on the back of the lead, console is on PAL 60hz, since it's a UK model. Tried plugging in composite directly into the back of the device, nothing yet. Neither component via RGB or D-Terminal are doing anything either.

Will dig out another composite connection to test.

Just remind me, VGA does go into the 'Display Out' socket and not 'PC in'?

[Fudoh]

PAL60 could be a problem, and 50Hz inputs would not show on the output, since your VGA display can't show. You might want to look for another 60Hz source. Or with the 360 set to 480i, try to connect the "Y" luminance signal (geen cable) from the component cable to the composite input port. This would give you a black & white picture only, but it's "pure" without any PAL modulation applied to it.

And yes, Display out is the right port.

[Skykid]

Ok, I have a snes outputting in 60hz via composite into the back of the XRGB2.

The sender kindly didn't supply a battery with the remote, so I'm using the box's direct interface, and slowly cycling inputs using the select button.

Not a whimper on the monitor, it just says signal not found.

Before I contact a moderator, because frankly I'm getting fed up with getting ripped off on this forum and would rather donate something to you Fudoh for your invaluable help, what other options can I try?

I'm not in possession of my usual consoles and setups, so I'm limited by avoiding Euro scart direct inputs to component on 360 via adaptors and composite so far.

Running out of ideas.

[Fudoh]

And that's a genuine NTSC SNES ? Remember that PAL units will again just deliver just something PAL60 when modded.

Can't think of much else. I'm currently looking for local XRGB2plus to re-review it and that might happen next week. After that I could tell you much more about the unit's behaviour and help you trouble shoot some more. In meantime your best shot would be to find somebody with a 2plus in actual use.

because frankly I'm getting fed up with getting ripped off on this forum

ouch!

[Skykid]

because frankly I'm getting fed up with getting ripped off on this forum

ouch!

Indeed, although up til now I've just dealt with all the recent issues privately, and simply accepted some as collateral damage and put items in the bin (as the sellers don't respond.)

Let's not jump the gun though. The SNES is modified PAL with a 60hz switch. I think my bro said he has a US Famicom JR that he could dig out later. That might be the only option for true NTSC signals via composite.

In the meantime I'm going to take a walk, smoke a cigarette, and unwind a little.

Love you Fudoh!

[Imhotep]

I used to connect my JP XBox 360 to a pc monitor via XRGB 2+ component input and got a picture. After a while of not using the XBox, I tried it again and it didn't work anymore. Not a big hassle, as I connect it directly via VGA now, but I'm wondering still, as I haven't changed anything in the setup I'd be aware of.

[Fudoh]

You also almost certainly toggled the SD/HD switch which made the360 output in 480p instead of 480i on standard settings.

[Skykid]

Fudoh and anyone else:

Climbing this simple mountain to NTSC output in a foreign gaming zone is proving my nemesis.

The Famicom Jr is out of storage, but requires a stepdown... and that's plugged into the XRGB2 (-_-)

Google says Super Nintendos output 9v globally, so you can use any PAL plug with it, including UK Super Nintendo plugs (which I've verified as 9v) or a UK Mega Drive PSU.

The problem is, all of those plugs don't have the correct input for the annoyingly specific Famicom Jr.

SO - what's going to happen if I plug the US 9v PSU that comes with the Fami Jr. into a shaver adaptor and just stick it in the plug socket? Is it going to blow the machine?

[Fudoh]

Can't be right. I'm using the same PSU for my Mega Drive and my AV Famicom.

PAL SNES uses a 9V AC power adapter, so don't use that on your Famicom.

If you plug a 110V PSU into a 230V outlet, it will smoke and melt.

[Skykid]

Righty ho.

So, realised two Gamecubes in the room, one PAL one NTSC. Put the PAL PSU in the NTSC GC, and gave it life. Therefore we could leave the sole stepdown for the XRGB. Finally.

So, plugged the NTSC GC into the XRGB via composite. Cycled using the select button. Monitor 1 didn't make a peep, same as before. Monitor 2 didn't make a peep, same as before.

Plugged the 360's green cable into the composite port (yellow) and tried the same thing. Nothing from either monitor.

So in summary, I've tried an Xbox 360 switched to SD via component into D-Terminal and Scart adaptors, got nothing. The 360 via composite, got nothing. An NTSC Gamecube via composite, got nothing. The 360's Green input into composite (yellow) got nothing.

Is it time to call the police?

[Fudoh]

I think holding the LEFT and RIGHT buttons on front while switching the unit on does a full reset. Try this.

After this I'm out of ideas, sorry.

[Skykid]

Update on this.

Went to Rupert H's house (from this forum) with the unit. Tested on a Sony Bravia with a new VGA cable. Attempted a signal response using an FM Towns with S-Video and then composite. Couldn't risk RGB as we weren't 100% sure if his Saturn scart was JP or Euro.

Again, nothing on the cardiograph. I did your reset suggestion Fudoh, and I'm still manually cycling the inputs on the box, but nothing.

The Bravia is the same as the other two monitors I tried at home, displaying 'no signal' before automatically turning off.

The final test I can think to do is ask someone with the same model to try turning it on for me with no console inputs at all and tell me if it still transmits a signal and if they can access the menu - because I seem to remember being able to reach the menu with no powered on console on my previous unit, just can't say for sure.

Any thoughts?

Personally it seems like the VGA out is faulty, but I'll wait for this definitive test to find out.

EDIT: Troubleshooting appeal here: http://shmups.system11.org/posting.php?mode=post&f=6