Underrated Gems: What shooters are underrated?

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BIL wrote:Steel Empire's real problem is the weak-feeling player firepower, at least on Hard where everything has more HP. I'm very fond of it overall (enough to own the JP MD ver), but it never quite manages that essential feeling of tearing through enemies. You have to work a bit too hard for even popcorn kills. Not surprised it isn't a community darling.

Such a cool production overall, though. It's one of the few sidescrollers to make me feel like I'm playing a horizontal Gun Frontier with all the bullets, rockets and grenades whizzing past the craft. I also respect it for having tight, well-designed patterns and using the lifebar as a crutch for poor players, not poor game design. It'd be pretty hard but entirely no-missable with one-hit kills.
Completely agree, perhaps the best lifebar in a shmup so far.

To me at least, the health enemies have is 100% perfect, bosses however are seriously too hard to kill.
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I feel the main game isn't that great (feels like a mid-tier SNES or PC Engine with a trippier coat of paint) but the Caravan mode is fantastic and worth the piddly price of admission alone.
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While the game it self isn't a shmup, there some missed opportunities by Nintendo

The submarine and prop plane levels in the original Super Mario Land
Yeah its early Game Boy so the graphics are awful, but Shmups was a genre Nintendo should of expanded into.

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To me Super Mario Land looks better than every Mario game from SM64 onwards. Wouldn't call SML underrated, though. Solar Striker is pretty famous too.
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Obiwanshinobi wrote:To me Super Mario Land looks better than every Mario game from SM64 onwards. Wouldn't call SML underrated, though. Solar Striker is pretty famous too.
Agreed. But you know SML never got the recognition it serves.

We need a Super Mario Shmup game.
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touhou, daisenpuu, fixeight, zen-ichi, v v, daioujou, 1944, guardian force, star solder vanishing earth, andro dunos, vasara/2, shienryu(u), gradius iv, salamander 2, night raid, raycrisis, macross (1), ikaruga

oh and uh PANG does PANG count huh huh huh

edit: i do not remember making this post but i still stand by all of these and may want to add something oh wait hydorah sure why not

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n0rtygames wrote:
Obscura wrote:EDIT: Also, is it just me, or does the OP reek of blatant self-promotion?
Nobody on this forum would ever shamelessly self promote. What are you chatting about? really obscura, you ought to know better than to lash out like that.
I saw what you did there.
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Someone please explain what Master of Weapon is about.
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Mutants and Akir--err, Yukiwo. I guess also a fight against an oppressive government struggling to maintain control in the post-apocalypse. I might have to see if I can gleam any more story bits from playing this week.
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GradiusuiraD wrote:Someone please explain what Master of Weapon is about.
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Air Gallet and Ashura Blaster.
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Fire Shark for the Mega Drive/Genesis. Best game on the system. The arcade original is good too of course.
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Yes! Definitely underrated. Gigandes is really enjoyable.
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Wow, I think I'm gonna play this now.

Also an underrated shmup is Macross:Scrambled Valkyrie for SNES.

Sure lifebars, but getting hit loses weapon power, and good luck with a no-miss! Bosses are also awesome.
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Does Herzog count? :P
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BPzeBanshee wrote:Does Herzog count? :P
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You're gonna kill me however I've enjoyed both Prehistoric Isle. Great games were the enemies aren't aliens or WWII stuff you know.
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nasty_wolverine wrote:
BPzeBanshee wrote:Does Herzog count? :P
HERZOG ZWEI!!!!..... deserved CAPS...
Well I did actually mean Herzog, but that one too.
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What shooters are underrated?

-All of them.
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Satazius. It's like a 1992 console shmup released in 2012. I love danmaku games but these older style of shooting games can be great too.
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underrated-by-the-shmups-community (and I don't know why): gun.smoke
underrated-by-the-shmups-community (and I know why): xevious
easily-overlooked gem: fantasy zone II DX
underdiscussed (not necessarily underrated): alcon
underrated simpliciter: sengoku ace (not to be confused with side-scroller sengoku blade, which might well be overrated)
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And nobody's mentioned Summer Carnival '92 - Recca?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft0sfR8W3D4

Bullet hell before the hardware could even support it properly. (and it's on the 3DS eShop now!)

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xfullmetal17 wrote:And nobody's mentioned Summer Carnival '92 - Recca?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSqf5STS9xQ

Bullet hell before the hardware could even support it properly, and so much audio spam you wonder why there's even a music track on it. (and it's on the 3DS eShop now!)
I think it's widely regarded as one of the top two or three NES shooters. You might think that NES shooters generally are a bit underrated, but that's hard to argue. Most people here would struggle to name 10 NES shooters that they really like.
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Darksakul wrote: The submarine and prop plane levels in the original Super Mario Land
Yeah its early Game Boy so the graphics are awful, but Shmups was a genre Nintendo should of expanded into.

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Hey, that's where my second counterstop came from. :D (eventually, you had to shoot the birds popping out of the clouds at 4-3)
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With that said, I think Magical Chase, while quite freaking awesome, is still ever-so-slightly overrated... mostly due to its often-absurd price for the US TG-16 version. Holy grail? Maybe, depending where you're looking. Pinnacle of TG-16/PC Engine shmupping? Not really...
I can agree with that, but it's eventually the fact that the console was not completely known in our country.

Btw, some underrated shmups:
Parodius Da! (Game Boy)
Raiden III
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Halley Wars (Game Gear)
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