Can the GBS-8200/SLG 3000 use any more inputs like Composite

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Can the GBS-8200/SLG 3000 use any more inputs like Composite

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I know the GBS-8200 can use inputs like VGA (or CGA), SCART, Component and Jamma, but can it be modified for other inputs like Composite and S-Video (SCART does impose those formats, but Composite/S-Video to SCART won't work will it?), and does the SLG-3000 only utilize RGB SCART cables or can it use the other aforementioned inputs?
I also wonder if Composite-NES from a RGB-Tri-Star 64 would go to the SLG-3000 through RGB SCART (SNES?) and if it should be all the best inputs for various consoles plus a SLG-3000.
Thanks in advance for the answers to these questions if you can answer them. :D
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No, the GBS8xxx is limited to RGB and component and the SLG3000 is limited to 31khz RGBHV input, but there are literally dozens of dirt cheap linedoublers out there on ebay which give you composite and s-video inputs and output through VGA into the SLG3000.

I find it silly to use composite or s-video, when component or RGB is available, so I made RGB or component inputs the minimum requirement for all linedoublers or scalers I've tested on my page.
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Most of these questions I get through YT are based on use with the NES...... it's quite a common point of discussion.
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rule of thumb for the NES: the older the linedoubler the better the comb filter.
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Fudoh wrote:No, the GBS8xxx is limited to RGB and component and the SLG3000 is limited to 31khz RGBHV input, but there are literally dozens of dirt cheap linedoublers out there on ebay which give you composite and s-video inputs and output through VGA into the SLG3000.

I find it silly to use composite or s-video, when component or RGB is available, so I made RGB or component inputs the minimum requirement for all linedoublers or scalers I've tested on my page.
Can you point me to them on eBay? Because I suck at finding them... And can I use the composite/s-video linedoubler on the VGA (or CGA) input on the GBS-8200 to make things easier?

And you have to keep in mind that sometimes Component/RGB isn't always available. Like Atari 2600 (best: S-Video), NES (best: Composite), etc. Plug n Plays are another good example.
fagin wrote:Most of these questions I get through YT are based on use with the NES...... it's quite a common point of discussion.
Sort of; the NES part of the Tri-Star 64 (if that is what I decide to go with) is what I was thinking of. Also, again, Plug n Plays.
I guess I could use the Video/Composite out of the Hamma AV-100S the N64 RGB SCART cable would go into for whenever I use the NES part of the Tri-Star 64.
Fudoh wrote:rule of thumb for the NES: the older the linedoubler the better the comb filter.
I would also need pointing to of that...
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Can you point me to them on eBay? Because I suck at finding them...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/140995787314
And can I use the composite/s-video linedoubler on the VGA (or CGA) input on the GBS-8200 to make things easier?
you likely get double the lag this way as the GBS's VGA input is probably processed and not just passed through.
And you have to keep in mind that sometimes Component/RGB isn't always available.
I know and most if not all processors I reviewed have composite and s-video connections IN ADDITION to RGB and/or component.
I would also need pointing to of that...
for example: the iScan Pro has a considerably better comb filter than the DVDO Edge.
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Fudoh wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/140995787314

you likely get double the lag this way as the GBS's VGA input is probably processed and not just passed through.

I know and most if not all processors I reviewed have composite and s-video connections IN ADDITION to RGB and/or component.

for example: the iScan Pro has a considerably better comb filter than the DVDO Edge.
Thanks. Ooh, the less than £50 price range does seem rather cheap compared to all the other, more expensive options.
So, could I use a VGA switcher of some kind if I didn't want to constantly screw and unscrew the terminals on the SLG 3000?
Are the better-for-NES line doublers in the same price range as the one you linked? What are the average prices for each level of Comb Filter quality? And is the item you linked to the DVDO Edge? (It says DVDO but it also says iScan)
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The DVDO Edge is a $300/500 (used/new) processor. The iScan v2 I linked to was one of the DVDOs first processors.

If you have the possibility you should look for an iScan Pro instead (similar to the plus, but with component as well). The 480i deinterlacing is considerably better than the GBS's. The Pro is around 40-80 EUR. Don't know where you're from though....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221240574176

There's only so much you can do and putting an external comb filter in line is not the easiest task. Many systems can at least be modded for s-video, which saves you the comb filter already and with a RGB PPU (either Arcade or the Universal PPU) for the NES being around $200, you have to decide for yourself how much money you want to put into a setup for processing composit video.

Of course you can use any VGA switch.
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Wow, I could definitely get that. Thanks for linking that!
And it's awesome to hear that any VGA switcher will do.
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