Are you metrosexual?

[professor ganson]

The great philosopher Immanuel Kant writes:
"Providing for oneself to the extent necessary just to find satisfaction in living (taking care of one's body, but not to the point of effeminacy) belongs among the duties to oneself."

Pretty funny. Apparently we have a duty to keep our bodies in order, though NOT TO THE POINT OF EFFEMINACY. What's wrong with being effeminate, exactly, Kant? (Actually, he needn't be saying that we shouldn't be effeminate; perhaps his point is just that we don't have a DUTY to be effeminate. Surely he's right about that.)

[LoneSage]

My sideburns are too large for me to be considered metrosexual.

Long live the muttonchops.

[russ]

I'm a clean person - I wear nice clothes (collared shirts, plain or patterned clothing), I do most of the cleaning in my dorm room, and am pretty tidy all around. I don't really keep my hair styled, it just sort of goes everywhere, and while wearing glasses I sort of get the Harry Potter-esque nerdy vibe from people. Though in my room you can see me head-banging my short-haired head while listening to speed metal and swearing loudly after getting shot to death in Counter-Strike. I guess I'm just not very good at being expressive of my true character or something.

Anyways, I agree the term "metrosexual" is pretty pointless, since sexuality does not actually make an appearance when defining it. Although I'm a neat and remotely presentable person, if I were to represent my sexual orientation I would need a plad flanel shirt, a two-weeks unshaven face, wood to chop and an axe to wield.

[Acid King]

Long live the muttonchops.

Indeed. In our hearts, we all want to drive big rigs.

[Tomtom]

No, I've never had sex with a bus.

I have pretty crappy fashion sense, too, though I do stay clean.

[sethsez]

No, I've never had sex with a bus.

You're missing out.

[Specineff]

^^^ LMAO.

[CIT]

Today they call it being "metrosexual". My father called it not dressing like a ****ing beggar.

Yeah, I guess the old word for it was "dandy".

Anyway, I like to dress nice too, and have been called metrosexual on several occasions (probably also since I have some clothes by D&G, Evisu, etc, brands that are very popular with gay guys) but to me that's just normal. I don't really understand how some dudes can go with the same clothes for a week, unshaven, unwashed hair, etc, because first impressions really do stick.

[Randorama]

Well...

By the way, when did Michael Moore become the prime example of virility?

I mentally associate him with the type of cretin that doesn't respect himself, and defines this flaw as "heterosexuality". I had this friend of mine who spent his time calling gay (as an insult, of course), everyone who dared to wash himself and dress like a decent person, or showed any remote form of good manners.

Once the term kicked in, he started calling "metrosexual" anyone who wasn't a fucking barbarian like him, of course

Let's not even speak about sophisticated things about ties, of course: i have this habit, during winter, to use ties (so i have a good excuse to close my shirt and avoid the cold on my throat), and of course this habit causes much frowning about the heteros i know

Funny thing: i saw a few times the italian version of "queer eye for the straight guy" , and i kept wondering why they really needed "gays" (???) to have a a show on good taste in life. It is also true that, as an hetero, i'm a pretty skillful cook, i can bake my own noodles, and iron dresses by myself. It is also true that i have no mammy or wifey to do all these things for me, which seems to be a key aspect to be a true hetero

EDIT:

I forgot: my last ex-girlfriend was a (moderate) fashion-endorser ("fashionista" is another word that should be abolished), and she often menaced me of "not getting any!" if i didn't dress well

[Neon]

I wear jeans (the world's finest pant), same pair of Vans I've had since 12th grade (no, I don't skate) and t shirts with funny things on them or collared shirts. I'd like to replace the ones that have holes at some point, otherwise I don't really care. It's comfortable and it filters out shallow people I wouldn't want to hang around anyways.

@ Rando: http://images.google.com/images?q=dress ... ] dresses. You should use clothes instead. Just so people don't get the wrong idea

[Davey]

It's comfortable and it filters out shallow people I wouldn't want to hang around anyways.

I was thinking the same thing as I wrote my post, but I guess I forgot to include it. In any case: yeah, exactly.

[BulletMagnet]

I mentally associate him with the type of cretin that doesn't respect himself, and defines this flaw as "heterosexuality".

Heh, I just find that funny because (especially) in the last election here (and still today to a lesser extent), conservatives often made a habit of labeling the opposing candidate ( and liberals in general) as "soft" or "flip-floppers" or "French-like" (code word for "effeminate"); thus, seeing someone as unabashedly liberal as Moore labeled as a textbook example of masculinity can't help but tickle my funny bone, heh. In any event, I've never really heard Moore himself comment on why he looks the way he does, but, as I said, I don't take much pride in my appearance (though I don't consider myself a total boor or anything like that), but I definitely don't blame my gender for that.

Let's not even speak about sophisticated things about ties, of course: i have this habit, during winter, to use ties (so i have a good excuse to close my shirt and avoid the cold on my throat), and of course this habit causes much frowning about the heteros i know

Now how's that for irony? You wear a tie for a completely "practical" reason (as opposed to something directly fashion-related) and people razz you as being too fashion-conscious. You can't win.

I forgot: my last ex-girlfriend was a (moderate) fashion-endorser ("fashionista" is another word that should be abolished), and she often menaced me of "not getting any!" if i didn't dress well

I'm no expert in this area, but I think this is the first instance I've heard of "it" being held back for this reason..."You'd better be color-coordinated, or you're sleeping on the couch tonight!"

[Andi]

Where is the line between caring what you look like and being vain?

[Icarus]

Where is the line between caring what you look like and being vain?

The difference between the two is in how long you spend staring at yourself in the mirror.

[Davey]

I'm no expert in this area, but I think this is the first instance I've heard of "it" being held back for this reason..."You'd better be color-coordinated, or you're sleeping on the couch tonight!"

Especially considering "it", unless I'm doing something wrong here, doesn't involve clothing at all.

[Randorama]

eh, it's just that when i see Michael Moore, it looks like a (far) fatter version of my "omg you're gay!!1!" friend, given its *horrible* looks. He could use a "queer eye for the straight guy" treatment, without a doubt.

Funny thing is, i've spent a couple of hours, this morning, making lasagne by myself, including the pasta, as i have guests this evening (including the gal who called me "metrosexual" ) .

[Icarus]

The only thing that bothers me is why they finally bothered to label all the guys of the world who actually give a damn about appearance, hygiene, health and other stuff with such a stupid term. Whenever I see or hear it, the first thought that pops into my head is "making love in an underground rail station".

(Those of you who have been to or live in Newcastle will probably get that one ^_^)

I know how to cook. And I'm damn good at it as well.
I shower quite often, and shave whenever my stubble gets bristly.
I have a large wardrobe full of t-shirts, shirts, jeans and long-sleeved tops (plus the customary underwear and sock drawers).
I have a bathroom full of assorted skin creams (I have mild eczema, and my skin needs to be kept moistured or it cracks up).
I don't spend too long getting ready (five minutes to throw on all my stuff, and to check my hair isn't vertical).
I'm sensitive by nature, and occasionally like to watch an emotional scene in a film, TV prog or anime, as well as typical bloke stuff of explosions, guns, lightsabers, swords and stuff.

Don't label me "metrosexual". I prefer "sensitive new-age guy" ^_-

Funny thing is, i've spent a couple of hours, this morning, making lasagne by myself, including the pasta, as i have guests this evening (including the gal who called me "metrosexual" Wink ) .

"Entertaining guests" eh? ^_-
That's a very new-age guy thing ^_-

[Acid King]

I don't really understand how some dudes can go with the same clothes for a week, unshaven, unwashed hair, etc, because first impressions really do stick.

Because some people don't give a shit and on the other side of the coin, it makes you stand out. When I was applying to graduate schools, the head of the political science department wrote in my recommendation that I "exhibited the motif of an earlier, golden age of protest" and that my intellect along with my long hair and "unconventional dress" (his words) made me stand out among all the other serious poli sci students. His first impression may have been, what's this filthy hooligan doing in a 400 level class? but by the end he was finding that I was doing some of the best, most original work.

Impressions only stick if you're in a highly formalized environment or the people judging you don't give a shit about ability.

Also, when did cooking become gay, metrosexual, whatever? Living on your own, you'd better learn how to cook or you're going to be blowing a whole lot of money or frozen food.

[Ghegs]

Also, when did cooking become gay, metrosexual, whatever? Living on your own, you'd better learn how to cook or you're going to be blowing a whole lot of money or frozen food.

Hey, noodles are cheap. Or does boiling water count as cooking nowadays?

I can cook some, but I'm lazy bastard. If I ever have company, then I have no problems whipping some simple stuff together, but I can't be bothered to do it just for myself.

[The n00b]

I would really like to know when "metrosexual" came to define a huge category of men who dress nice and practice basic hygiene AS WELL as vain dorks who get facials every week, pedicures, shave their legs, and spend more time looking in the mirror than actually using their brains.

I was always under the impression that metrosexual defined the latter and ONLY the latter. Of course judging by this forum, it seems many people think that either you're the most effeminate man out there, think Jack from Will & Grace, or you are "unclean," trashy looking, or looking like a beggar. Surely there is a happy medium right?

I like to think of myself as occupying that happy medium. I don't dress trashy but my whole wardrobe does not consist of Armani. I also shave and bathe fairly regularly. I take business presentations seriously, of course, by dressing in a suit but I think that's more about showing people that I take what I do seriously so I dress the part.

There is also a SERIOUS difference between "metros" that work out and the kind of working out that I and most people that I know do. I don't workout to get "the look" that consists of "rock hard" abs, super muscular shoulders, and basically looking like you get a shipment of cocoanut oil to your house every morning. I also don't work out to get girls to notice me, I think my looks and personality more than speak for themselves. I really don't work out to hit on girls at the gym. That's really wrong. I work out for me and to enjoy the performance benefits that come with working out. If had a pot belly and man boobs but could turn in a great marathon time, I would be happy. Fuck the "look."

I use to partly subscribe to the "look" philosophy when I ran in college. I would shave my legs and chest and sure the additional attention I got from the ladies was great but in time I grew to think it was a shallow reason for the extra shaving. I know I'm in shape and most people know that too. The extra shaving is just vanity and I didn't think that was a quality that I would like to have.

[sffan]

So, the point is: how metrosexual are you? Do you do fancy things like washing yourself daily, dressing with normal dresses instead of giant sandbags, shave, do some exercise, perhaps even (gasp!) have some vague taste in dresses (like, for instance, avoid t mix green and blue)?Do you have a poster of Yori Yagami,Benimaru Nikaido or Ash Crimson?

You don't actually wear dresses, do you?

Anyway, I mostly wear T-shirts and jeans and I've never followed fashion trends. I do shower daily and brush my teeth 3 times daily.

So I guess I'm a clean slob. Or a normal guy.

[JBC]

I dunno... is it possible to be a rocker and a metrosexual at the same time? I do have a profile at Vampire Freaks... so i'm pretty vain. I'm no Patrick Bateman but i do take good care of myself.

[UnscathedFlyingObject]

Dresses . Someone tell Rando what dresses are. Fast.


Language tip 101: K.I.S.S (Keep It Short and Simple)
Short: Don't beat around the bush when you want to say something.

Simple: Avoid using fancy words as much as possible.
Dresses = NO. Unless you want to be branded as a cross-dresser.
Clothes = YES! You don't sound stupid anymore.

[Zweihander]

I'm straight, and I think the whole "metrosexual" thing is retarded as fuck.

[freddiebamboo]

I spend almost all my money on clothes, shower twice a day and have even had haircuts costing the price of a new game.

I'm not Patrick Bateman, I just like to look nice

[Acid King]

I spend almost all my money on clothes, shower twice a day and have even had haircuts costing the price of a new game.

I'm not Patrick Bateman, I just like to look nice

Do you use an aftershave with little to no alcohol because alcohol dries the skin and makes you look older? I know I do!

[Specineff]

Also, when did cooking become gay, metrosexual, whatever? Living on your own, you'd better learn how to cook or you're going to be blowing a whole lot of money or frozen food.

Agreed.

Real men know how to grill. I'd feel my masculinity challenged if I had to depend on my wife, aunt or mother for my daily sustenance.

Come on, guys. Stop giving Rando a hard time because of a slight slip. We all know he's referring to articles of clothing, which you use to dress yourself. Then again, the thought of a shmupper in a dress....

[Rob]

I don't take much pride in my appearance

We could be friends.

[Randorama]

oh, i forgot you use "dress" for women's ones only...after all, men always dress badly, no? (i mean, if you have a vocabulary bigger than 100 words, dress shouldn't be fancy, *i hope*).

But well, since the standard hetero can't really cook and needs a mothe---ehr, a woman to care for him, cooking seems to be quite metro. Lasagne were quite successful, by the way, and the wine, of course, excellent.

Aside that, i always grew up doing sports, so i don't really do exercise for the looks. Nor do i wear Armani, honestly (which is funny - basically he's the "common guy" stylist, in the sense that most of his products are just refined things like, say, jackets, jeans, t-shirts). Beside that, i grew up with the idea that the true man doesn't need a woman to care after him. Still, i can't learn to iron well, dammit

[BulletMagnet]

But well, since the standard hetero can't really cook and needs a mothe---ehr, a woman to care for him, cooking seems to be quite metro.

That's an odd paradox of sorts...if a woman is able to live on her own without a man to support her or whatever, her fellow females are all "You go girl! You don't NEED no stinkin' man!" If a guy's on his own, though, his guy friends whisper amongst themselves, "he must be, er, effeminate." Heh heh, gender roles are a wonderful thing.

We could be friends.

Even though I still maintain that GWG got a bad port?